Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

I am typing while walking so sorry for the typos!

Those genocides are as important as may others. Not saying they are not. However, I am rightly more worried about a regime that is committing genocide AND had nukes that they have never allowed anyone to investigate even. Can you not see why?

(by the way, I would quite like to see where Israeli regime is hiding their nukes; their landmass is so small that they are likely using their population as human shields. It is potentially another regional disaster in making if not investigated and controlled.)

Antisemitic racism? I am constantly trying to make people separate Israeli regime from the Israeli people who I am sure, and I know!, are innocent in all this. It is Trump and his cronies backed by oligarchs that I am talking about. These people have no religion and no humanity either.
And for the millionth time: we have resolved ages ago on Mumsnet that being anti-Israeli regime is NOT antisemitism. Please stop bringing that out all the time. It is very unfair.

@Amplepombear don’t bring proxies into it - Israel, US, UK, Iran, and all the rest of the world use proxies.

I don't know what you mean by "proxies"?

If you mean State Sponsored Terrorism then you are incorrect.

State-sponsored terrorism* *is terrorist violence carried out with the active support of national governments provided to violent non-state actors It contrasts with state terrorism, which is carried out directly by state actors.

The US State Department currently lists Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria as state sponsors of terrorism

I am sure we are about a step away from counting Trump as state-sponsored terrorist now that it has emerged he is protecting Putin against Ukraine.

This is why I said don’t bring proxies into it because it is very hard to assess them. In fact, USA and U.K. made the current regime of Iran a possibility via precisely that route. So I suggest we stay away from something we can’t see obviously and which everyone is using, including Israeli regime. There is undeniable and plenty of evidence for it, including within Iran.

But a unilateral attack on a sovereign nation? That is where the civilised world like Europe draws a line.

@Amplepombear " (by the way, I would quite like to see where Israeli regime is hiding their nukes; their landmass is so small that they are likely using their population as human shields. It is potentially another regional disaster in making if not investigated and controlled.)"

They aren't "hiding" them anywhere.
I understand they are at an airbase in the Negev Desert.
I suspect they also have a nuclear sub somewhere, but who knows?

@Amplepombear "I am sure we are about a step away from counting Trump as state-sponsored terrorist now that it has emerged he is protecting Putin against Ukraine."

Are you OK?

@Amplepombear

(by the way, I would quite like to see where Israeli regime is hiding their nukes; their landmass is so small that they are likely using their population as human shields

Before boarding that particular outrage bus you might want to look at where other countries, including the UK,.store or have stored their nuclear weapons, or elements thereof.

It is a valid question. However, however much I dislike Keir Starmer, he is not a war criminal wanted by the ICC so I am not that worried for him.

I asked a valid question. If Trump is protecting Putin as Zelensky said last night, should Europe not investigate why he is making sure Putin (aka Trump) continues his reign of terror in Ukraine?
Friend of your enemy and all that? What is wrong with my point?

Israel can’t enforce regime change, it can paralyse the current regime so Iranians themselves can enforce regime change.

And who told us that? Netenyahu’s regime? Right, we definitely trust them wholeheartedly.

Why should any country reveal their defence capability to another?

Are you OK?

So you believe Zelensky's propaganda ?

They have a public clock that counts down to the destruction of Israel. 🙄

I actually didn’t realise how misinformed the general public is about the middle east until I came on mumsnet. Theres a bunch here who get their talking points from tiktok but seem to have zero general knowledge.

One of the Gaza convoy people published a map of where they were planning to go on facebook, it was completely wrong and if they had followed it they would have ended up in the exact opposite place. The Rafah crossing isn’t on the red sea and Egypt is a sovereign nation who actually build the bloody great big blockade they were apparently trying to break. It was funny but also shocking to me that people who would go this far didn’t know even the basics.

That will all be on record somewhere so you could look it up yourself. It will be in the Court documents.

It's not my responsibility to prove anything.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-al-quds-day-protest-clock-president-hassan-rouhani-a7806056.html

Heres their bloody stupid clock.

So now you have a crystal ball ?

You'd better let MI5 know.

Awful!

😮

If it really was a question then the answer (for air delivered muntions) would be a very well protected storage facility very adjacent to or on the airfield tasked with delivering the devices (you can still see the UK cold war UK type facilities at Scampton and Waddington, either side of Lincoln)

There's no point in hiding the things in the middle of the civilian population.

Someone posted this has been misinterpreted, as well as other rhetoric. I don’t see how. It’s pretty clear.

I mean it’s not like you have to intuit anything about the Iranian regime from vague statements, hamas, hezbollah, houthis, doomsday clocks, nukes, erm “death to america” “death to israel”, I believe “death to the UK” has come up. I means they are basically islamo facists spreading extremism and misery. Estimate is 3 billion a year poured i to proxies (weapons, training, funding).

But you’ll have people who either very stupid, ideological or just malignant arguing that you don’t reeeaaaaaalllllly know, you couldn’t possibly ackkkktulllyyy knooooow what the regime is thinking. They’ve never hid it.

@Thegreyhound It’s a made up word from whatever echo chamber of the internet pumps out propaganda for the Iranian government.

It coke across as highly misogynistic in intent because it is telling the reader that feminism is just a front for Western war mongering.

It undermines the plight of women in Iran so that the rabid anti- Israel groups can make themselves feel better about their tacit support for a country with the worst record on right for women and the LGBTQ+ community in the world.

It’s bollocks.

Oh yeah as i said “well akctuuuuly it’s er metaphorical dontchaknow” I mean no-one who has an actual clock counting down to the destruction of your nation could possibly mean it, don’t you understand NUANCE!?