Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

It’s probably 20 to 30 thousand plus 20+ thousand terrorists.
Saying hundreds of thousands really is just blatant lies.
Israel did not specifically target them. Israel does what it can to minimize civilian casualties.
There is no carpet bombing of civilians.
They are fighting a war with terrorists hiding amongst, under and on top of civilians, in a densely populated area. Casualties are inevitable in such situations.
Hamas care less for the Gazans than the IDF does. If they did, they would not launch attacks from these residential locations.

Well, they would have somewhere to go if Hamas allowed them to use those tunnels under Gaza.
Hamas is the government in Gaza so I suggest you ask them.

Totally agree with this. Israeli regime has loud tools in mainstream and social media doing their dirty job for them.

That doesn't answer my question though.

Oh dear! Now you saying it’s fine to displace people from their lands with threats of death and destruction. Is that not what Hitler did to the millions of poor and helpless souls in holocaust?
So why is Iran at fault? You say they are doing the same to Israel, right? Threatening to wipe them off the face of earth you say. How is that wrong and Israeli genocide and ethnic cleansing is right?

Sarcastic emotive posts like this don't help a balanced discussion move forward.

I suppose when you’re dealing with a rogue state that isn’t taking any notice of those conventions anyway, rules aren’t really much use.

Labelling my post sarcastic is not going to invalidate my questions which still stand. Can you answer my question directly? That is a great way of moving the discussion forward.

I never said that at all. Please read what I wrote again.

Hamas could protect it's citizens if it wanted, which begs the question as to why it doesn't.

And stop saying that Israel is committing "genocide" and "ethic cleansing" as this has not been proved at the ICJ.

30K deaths would still constitute a genocide would it not? Regardless of whether Hamas cares for Gazan civilians or not (and it seems not), and as Gaza is incredibly densely populated, attacks basically have to be launched from civilian occupied areas - stopping aid entering Gaza and starving people to death is another form of genocide. Israel has always controlled Gaza's imports so essentially it's now starving it out. We also don't really know exactly how many people are dying there because Western journalists are not allowed in and we're not seeing the full picture of what's happening there (which is pretty suspicious in itself tbh).

I can't see any end to this conflict other than everyone in Gaza either dying or maybe being allowed to leave, and Israel settling it. I absolutely don't support that happening but it's what I am sure will happen, eventually.

@AnonymousBleep "can't see any end to this conflict other than everyone in Gaza either dying or maybe being allowed to leave, and Israel settling it. I absolutely don't support that happening but it's what I am sure will happen, eventually."

Or Hamas could be destroyed, which is Israel's aim.

Can you explain how Israel aren't committing genocide, ethnic cleansing or war crimes?

Yes, we keep hearing Hamas is the main aim but it is actually all about land grab as obvious by reports from several international organisations. Netenyahu started this war as a distraction tactic right when he knew he was on his last legs otherwise. Even UK was about to ban Israeli ministers just a few days ago. Now all that is forgotten as we try and stop the world from entering WW3.
So yes, not buying it was about Hamas. It is always about land grab and Israel wanting Palestinians out of the way, whatever the means. So yes it is ethnic cleansing.

That won't destroy Hamas. It will just radicalise the Gazan survivors and increase the likelihood of terrorist attacks on Israel and the West.

Are you going to try to blame the Holocaust on Israel too, or will you at least concede that some people really, really hate Jews and that is enough motivation to try to wipe them out?

I am calling the killing of tens of thousands of Gazans including children ethnic cleansing and genocide. Everyone, and I mean everyone, should be held accountable no matter what their caste/religion/race is if they commit an act like that. Iran has fought proxies, they haven’t committed a genocide. It is Netenyahu’s regime that has done it, resulting in a warrant on him by the ICC and rightly so.

You can call it whatever you like, it doesn't make it fact.

"Iran has fought proxies, they haven’t committed a genocide" maybe/maybe not but they murder their own citizens without a thought;

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/iran-sees-75-increase-in-executions-during-first-four-months-of-2025-over-2024

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced8qw8q62jo

https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/27/iran-execution-spree-continues-unabated

But there’s another reason that Israel is so hated that you are ignoring, and it’s that it’s a Jewish state.

Let’s not forget the Houthi cry isn’t just ‘death to Israel’ but also ‘a curse upon the Jews’.

If you miss that, your analysis of the entire situation is just crap.

@noblegiraffe that’s very manipulating and a very odd way of defending the genocide

the holocaust was and is a heartbreaking historical reality for the same people such as myself, who, just as we would speak out in defence of those that suffered such a tragedy, of course we will also call out the genocide in Gaza orchestrated by the current Israeli government

@noblegiraffe

what do you say to people that decry Hamas, the houthis and their calling for the elimination of Jews and ALSO condemn the ethnic cleansing, starvation and bombing of innocent Gazans?

Do you feel the same empathy for them and their plight? Or do you somehow low-key view the Palestinians as more fair game than Jews

Can you point out exactly where I have defended a genocide? FFS these kneejerk spurts of automatic shite in response to anything that isn’t blaming Israel for all the ills of the world are just fucking tedious.

Try engaging your brain. I was pointing out that Gaza isn’t the only reason Israel is so hated.

Honestly it’s getting so boring seeing anyone defending Netanyahu frame his condemnation for starving and bombing innocent people as ‘anti-semitism’

Thats how he’s got away with what he’s doing as people only have to then say oh you’re anti semitic

I have yet to see any evidence that the Irani government policy is calling for a wipe off of Jews from the face of earth.

Anyone calling for the elimination of a people should be dealt with by international bodies. and I stand behind that with all my heart.

What I absolutely can’t trust is that a war criminal is leading us into something that he wants us to believe in when he has just proven to the world exactly how callous and corrupt he and his regime is.

Not buying that.

@noblegiraffe

thanks for the personal insults! Point proven. Perhaps you should step away from your excusing Israel for a mo

Please don’t lose your head.
What you are implying is that Israel is hated for Gaza AND for being Jewish state.

What we are saying is that Israelis regime has committed war crimes and is genocidal and we can’t trust them with anything in our back garden, let alone with wild peace and protection from nukes. They must face the ICC let alone be permitted to get away with destabilising the region more by attempting an illegitimate war on a sovereign country that is part of the United Nations.

What we are saying is that this is playing out very well for Trump and Netenyahu and the timing is highly suspect.