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DD has said she will never view me as a mum

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Strangersev · 14/06/2025 11:35

Hi all, this could be long and I want to say straight away I know I messed up, I just don’t know how to reply, I’m not looking to minimise my actions.

So background, my ex husband and I both had jobs which involved moving relatively frequently, we had one child, and over the 18 years of her childhood she lived in 5 countries (Canada, Italy, Singapore, Switzerland, and France). I am British, her dad is Italian.

For the first 10 years of her life I’d say we were a very happy family, we lived in Italy for 7 years which provided a real period of stability. We then moved to Singapore, this was more for my sake than my ex husbands but much like Canada in the early years he was willing to make a compromise for my career. However here is where cracks started to form. We lost our way with parenting, would have loud and dramatic fights and often our poor little DD would be witness. I regret this period deeply and 2 years later we moved to Switzerland, this was meant to be a happy middle ground, good career opportunities for us both and DD hadn’t really enjoyed life in Singapore so we thought this may be more familiar.

My ex husband immediately started having an affair, I knew but for 2 years just allowed it to happen. I lied to our DD about him working late when I knew he was with her, I didn’t question or press him on where he was, however 2 years in I came home to them in our bed. This was my breaking point, I spiralled, had a mental breakdown and went into a deep depression. I decided for 6 months I’d move back to my parents home in the uk, my husband and I agreed we would divorce. We spoke to DD and she insisted she wasn’t moving again, she liked Geneva, she was happy at school. I accepted that 6 months apart from her would be a sacrifice worth making. The 6 months passed and I was offered a dream role in Paris. My mental health wasn’t great still, I felt selfishly like I needed to make a decision that was best for me, so I took the job. I asked DD to move with me, she refused. Geneva to Paris was a very manageable distance though, I spent all the holidays with her and we had a lovely time. I do realise now I was saying horrible things about her dad to her during this time and that was immature and cruel of me.

Once DD finished that phase of schooling at 16, her dad got offered a job in Luxembourg which he decided he was going to take. DD was offered Paris or Luxembourg for her diploma years and settled on Paris. I think upon reflection this was very little to do with me and more that for a 16 year old girl Paris is perhaps the more inspirational place to live. I thought her living with me again would be wonderful but the reality was she took 7 subjects for her diploma instead of 6 (wanted to take all her languages) and the time taken up by other elements of the IB diploma meant she was never really home, distance grew between us massively in this time. I started a new relationship which at the time I didn’t feel guilty for as she was really never home in the week and on weekends she’s often want to go to her dads.

DD then took a gap year, and after that went to university in the UK. She is now graduating this summer.

I met up with her for lunch yesterday. She told me about the masters she will be doing, how excited she is to move back to Italy. I realised that in the 3 years she has been living in my home country I’ve only seen her 6 times. She always spends Christmas with her dad, spent summers travelling so it felt difficult to see her. I asked her jokingly if she felt more “British” after her 3 years and she said not at all. She is a third culture kid but If asked to pick she would always say she is Italian. I was hurt by this initially and told her this. She then said “I don’t even really view you as a mum”. This broke my heart I started to cry and she said she was best going.

She messaged me this morning explaining that she can’t view me as a mum as when she was 14-16 I messed with her head. I told her that her dad was evil and cruel yet I left her with him alone. She listed all the ways her dad has been a more selfless parent and more supportive parent.

I am now sad heartbroken and stunned, I don’t really know how to reply? Of course I can and will apologise and I don’t plan to defend my version of events but I feel like I should at least explain?

AIBU to feel like I should explain my side of the story to her? Or have I been ridiculously selfish and this is a result of my own actions?

Any advice much appreciated/

OP posts:
tuffinmops · 17/06/2025 07:05

It does sound like you’ve been a very selfish mother, so it’s no surprise really.

CaptainFuture · 17/06/2025 07:13

tuffinmops · 17/06/2025 07:05

It does sound like you’ve been a very selfish mother, so it’s no surprise really.

Agree, and totally, well slightly off piste..what jobs are people having that are so more important and exciting and worthwhile than seeing their child and being a parent?
Am assuming v v high salaried which is the main focus? Money first?

deismevav · 17/06/2025 07:19

Why would you be hurt that she doesn’t consider herself to be British when you didn’t bring her up here? Unreasonable.

You both prioritised work and yourselves over your poor daughter. Sounds like she had to grow up very quickly amid all this chaos. If you aren’t in therapy, you should start now. And offer to pay for her therapy too.

And yes you should apologise, and more importantly try to put yourself in her shoes.

Sandy420 · 17/06/2025 08:29

I don't think it's a bad thing to apologise for doing all sorts of things wrong and explaining that you were in a dark place and not coping well with life at all - no deep wordy explanations of why it's not your fault.

You need to realise she witnessed your fights and that was emotional abuse - she should not have been seeing that. You need to take responsibility for it, and take responsibility for leaving and then bad mouthing the parent you left her with - not suggest that it's through 'her eyes' or anything else that implies she is misunderstanding the situation or wrong.

You don't have the right to expect her to feel British when you didn't bring her up here. You need to get over that. Tell her you would love the opportunity to try to slowly rebuild things if she is willing - but only if you are stable now. Mess up again and I wouldn't blame her for walking away completely.

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