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New neighbour sunbathing in the nude

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ZooHannah · 13/06/2025 22:26

We moved in to our dream home last month, we have a corner plot with only one direct neighbour who is a (I believe) single man and has always been polite and friendly in our initial conversations.

DH looked out of our bedroom window today to see our neighbour sunbathing completely starkers. He came downstairs to tell me and I couldn’t believe it when I went upstairs and saw for myself.

I want to go round to say something however DH has told me I am being ridiculous and he is on his own property so can go what he wants.

AIBU? I appreciate neighbourly relations but I am absolutely repulsed by this.

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DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 14:16

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 14:06

Look stupid to who? The vast majority of people wouldn’t expect or want to see a grown man walking about with nothing on making an exhibition of himself in a busy area. There is no need whatsoever other than for attention. They’ll probably wear a board saying “Look at me” and get a sick kick out of it.

If they wore a board saying "look at me" then they'd be pushing the edges of the law because then they'd ACTIVELY be intending for people to look at them and have a reaction

Of course, that's not what they are ACTUALLY doing, they are just existing in a way that is different to you. Making no more of an exhibit of themselves than a woman in a bikini top and shorts, a man in a dress or a woman in a burka (all things people will also complain about)

MemorableTrenchcoat · 15/06/2025 14:32

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 14:02

He is causing distress if he continues and as YOU say that’s the crux of it. You don’t get to decide what’s causing distress. It literally says that advice from the police is “Don’t assume you won’t be arrested if you sunbathe naked in your garden”

You seem to be struggling with comprehension. It literally says in a briefing note from the organisation which trains police officers that, with regard to someone going about their business (including sunbathing) while naked:

  • If they are on their own property, it will be lawful activity
  • If they are just being naked in public, it will be lawful activity.
PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:27

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 14:12

He is doing a passive activity in his private space. He isn't INTENDING to cause offence (which is the actual caveat, not causing it but the intent to)

It literally says "advice they aren't doing anything unlawful" actually

It’s not private if someone else’s window overlooks it.

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:31

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 14:16

If they wore a board saying "look at me" then they'd be pushing the edges of the law because then they'd ACTIVELY be intending for people to look at them and have a reaction

Of course, that's not what they are ACTUALLY doing, they are just existing in a way that is different to you. Making no more of an exhibit of themselves than a woman in a bikini top and shorts, a man in a dress or a woman in a burka (all things people will also complain about)

You don’t need to wear a board saying look at me to have the intention of wanting people to look you. By virtue of deciding to walk around Oxford Circus in the skud - it can be assumed you want people to see your naked body otherwise you would cover up.

BrickHare · 15/06/2025 15:32

ThatDaringEagle · 15/06/2025 09:11

So are you saying that in general women are a bit 'moanier' & hence more likely to complain ?! ;)

Your words not mine. And the PP said men are less likely to complain about a naked women in the back garden. Interesting…

MemorableTrenchcoat · 15/06/2025 15:35

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:27

It’s not private if someone else’s window overlooks it.

That’s ok, they’re allowed to do it in public too. Do you think you will ever be able to understand this?

  • If they are just being naked in public, it will be lawful activity.
PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:36

MemorableTrenchcoat · 15/06/2025 14:32

You seem to be struggling with comprehension. It literally says in a briefing note from the organisation which trains police officers that, with regard to someone going about their business (including sunbathing) while naked:

  • If they are on their own property, it will be lawful activity
  • If they are just being naked in public, it will be lawful activity.

You keep referring back to the police officers manual or whatever it is and I think where your comprehension fails, is that you don’t realise that those are guidelines and it’s not as black and white. Each of the circumstances will be taken in to account on their own merit and as I’ve stated several times, it literally says in another policing site, don’t assume you won’t be committing a crime because you’re in your own back garden.

You can’t say someone isn’t committing a crime anymore than I can say you’re 100% wrong.

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:40

MemorableTrenchcoat · 15/06/2025 15:35

That’s ok, they’re allowed to do it in public too. Do you think you will ever be able to understand this?

  • If they are just being naked in public, it will be lawful activity.

Do you not understand what term caveat refers to in law? Clearly not.

Do you think someone who walks around in a cloak then opens it up to expose himself to the public is lawful?

MemorableTrenchcoat · 15/06/2025 15:49

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:36

You keep referring back to the police officers manual or whatever it is and I think where your comprehension fails, is that you don’t realise that those are guidelines and it’s not as black and white. Each of the circumstances will be taken in to account on their own merit and as I’ve stated several times, it literally says in another policing site, don’t assume you won’t be committing a crime because you’re in your own back garden.

You can’t say someone isn’t committing a crime anymore than I can say you’re 100% wrong.

Try reading this, and then explain how someone going about their business and sunbathing in their garden, with no sexual component and without intending to cause disorder, is breaking the law.

New neighbour sunbathing in the nude
PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:51

https://www.idealhome.co.uk/garden/garden-advice/is-it-illegal-to-be-naked-in-a-garden

Seen as how you like links. Here is an article that explains she sunbathes
topless but she’s aware her neighbours might be distressed/alarmed especially because they have kids and their window overlooks her garden. She covers up when school is over which is considerate.

She acknowledges that by being naked where her neighbours can see could be considered distressing and alarming in legal terms so she probably doenst want to get arrested so covers up when it’s not appropriate

Is it illegal to be naked in your garden? What you need to know to avoid falling out with your neighbours

World Naked Gardening Day is this weekend, and if you're curious about the legalities of being naked in your garden, this is everything you need to know

https://www.idealhome.co.uk/garden/garden-advice/is-it-illegal-to-be-naked-in-a-garden

BrickHare · 15/06/2025 15:51

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 09:39

I am going to go out on a limb and say that if you kept calling the police about Naked Nigel Next Door after they'd already told you he wasn't committing and offence then YOU would be the one in trouble for harassment

PITCH: Officer, he's still naked
Officer: Is he doing anything offensive this time?
PITCH: yes, he's lying there naked
Officer: so the same as the last 5 times? Ma'am you need to stop calling us
PITCH: But he's NAKED. Won't someone think of the children?
Officer: ma'am, as I've told you before. It's not illegal. If you keep calling us that is harassment. Leave him alone

😂😂😂😂😂

BrickHare · 15/06/2025 15:51

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:51

https://www.idealhome.co.uk/garden/garden-advice/is-it-illegal-to-be-naked-in-a-garden

Seen as how you like links. Here is an article that explains she sunbathes
topless but she’s aware her neighbours might be distressed/alarmed especially because they have kids and their window overlooks her garden. She covers up when school is over which is considerate.

She acknowledges that by being naked where her neighbours can see could be considered distressing and alarming in legal terms so she probably doenst want to get arrested so covers up when it’s not appropriate

I’m not reading a random link

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:54

BrickHare · 15/06/2025 15:51

I’m not reading a random link

You can Google it then 😃

BrickHare · 15/06/2025 15:56

Alltheyellowbirds · 15/06/2025 13:12

Suspect it’s the most exciting thing to happen to OP and her friends for weeks.

*Years

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 15:57

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:27

It’s not private if someone else’s window overlooks it.

Your garden is considered private

MemorableTrenchcoat · 15/06/2025 15:58

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:51

https://www.idealhome.co.uk/garden/garden-advice/is-it-illegal-to-be-naked-in-a-garden

Seen as how you like links. Here is an article that explains she sunbathes
topless but she’s aware her neighbours might be distressed/alarmed especially because they have kids and their window overlooks her garden. She covers up when school is over which is considerate.

She acknowledges that by being naked where her neighbours can see could be considered distressing and alarming in legal terms so she probably doenst want to get arrested so covers up when it’s not appropriate

That’s up to her. Just because she prefers to err on the side of caution doesn’t mean she’d be breaking the law if she didn’t. You think an Ideal Home article carries more weight than the College of Policing’s published interpretation of the law, which informs the training given to every police officer in the country?

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 15:58

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:31

You don’t need to wear a board saying look at me to have the intention of wanting people to look you. By virtue of deciding to walk around Oxford Circus in the skud - it can be assumed you want people to see your naked body otherwise you would cover up.

Edited

No it isn't reasonable to assume that any more than it's reasonable to assume a woman wearing a short skirt is "asking for it"..

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:59

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 15:57

Your garden is considered private

Until someone complains to the police that someone is naked in their garden and their kids window overlooks it and it’s causing distress….

HerNeighbourTotoro · 15/06/2025 16:00

ZooHannah · 14/06/2025 15:21

God forbid a MN’er has a husband they don’t hate and is attractive!

What are you on about?????

Just close your eyes every time you are i na vicinity of window, problem solved. Also cancel that Amazon order for binoculars.

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 16:00

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:36

You keep referring back to the police officers manual or whatever it is and I think where your comprehension fails, is that you don’t realise that those are guidelines and it’s not as black and white. Each of the circumstances will be taken in to account on their own merit and as I’ve stated several times, it literally says in another policing site, don’t assume you won’t be committing a crime because you’re in your own back garden.

You can’t say someone isn’t committing a crime anymore than I can say you’re 100% wrong.

Except for the fact that's literally what Police Officers have to follow and there's even a story here about someone being unlawfully arrested and told to complain about the officer arresting him because it was unlawful...

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 16:01

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:40

Do you not understand what term caveat refers to in law? Clearly not.

Do you think someone who walks around in a cloak then opens it up to expose himself to the public is lawful?

Edited

That would depend how they opened it up and what their INTENTION was

Because INTENTION is the key

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 16:01

MemorableTrenchcoat · 15/06/2025 15:58

That’s up to her. Just because she prefers to err on the side of caution doesn’t mean she’d be breaking the law if she didn’t. You think an Ideal Home article carries more weight than the College of Policing’s published interpretation of the law, which informs the training given to every police officer in the country?

I think the lines can be blurred very easily regarding this sort of stuff and what one police force would do isn’t necessary what the next one would do.

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 16:02

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 15:58

No it isn't reasonable to assume that any more than it's reasonable to assume a woman wearing a short skirt is "asking for it"..

Now you’re just making stuff up for reaction. Completely moot and not relevant to this discussion what so ever

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 16:04

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 15:51

https://www.idealhome.co.uk/garden/garden-advice/is-it-illegal-to-be-naked-in-a-garden

Seen as how you like links. Here is an article that explains she sunbathes
topless but she’s aware her neighbours might be distressed/alarmed especially because they have kids and their window overlooks her garden. She covers up when school is over which is considerate.

She acknowledges that by being naked where her neighbours can see could be considered distressing and alarming in legal terms so she probably doenst want to get arrested so covers up when it’s not appropriate

That is someone making their own judgement

It's not the law..

PITCHpink · 15/06/2025 16:04

DoctorRoseReturns · 15/06/2025 16:01

That would depend how they opened it up and what their INTENTION was

Because INTENTION is the key

Exactly and who decides whether it was intentional or not!! Happens once fair enough, happens several times then it becomes an issue no way can you say that it still wouldn’t be classed as intentional