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New neighbour sunbathing in the nude

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ZooHannah · 13/06/2025 22:26

We moved in to our dream home last month, we have a corner plot with only one direct neighbour who is a (I believe) single man and has always been polite and friendly in our initial conversations.

DH looked out of our bedroom window today to see our neighbour sunbathing completely starkers. He came downstairs to tell me and I couldn’t believe it when I went upstairs and saw for myself.

I want to go round to say something however DH has told me I am being ridiculous and he is on his own property so can go what he wants.

AIBU? I appreciate neighbourly relations but I am absolutely repulsed by this.

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Fannyy · 14/06/2025 15:55

Easy solution don't stand at your upstairs window

Fannyy · 14/06/2025 15:56

WhiteBluebells · 14/06/2025 15:54

I wouldn't be pleased op either with kids in the house, I'm not sure why you are getting such a hard time on here.
I'd be leaving a letter through the door saying we can see you naked do you mind putting some pants on.

Add onto the letter we can see you naked when we deliberately stand upstairs looking out of our window into your garden

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/06/2025 15:59

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 15:48

Well it is by definition against the law as it has caused her distress. The question is the extent to which this was intentional and the extent to which he does or will commit much more serious offences.

FFS, how come so few on this thread know the law, safeguarding, paraphilias, the way paraphilias cluster and the way sex offending escalates.

At best it is relatively harmless and utterly unnecessary.

At worst he is giving advanced warning that he is a current or future serious sex offender

You seem to have a rather shaky grasp of the law. It’s summarised here: https://library.college.police.uk/docs/college-of-policing/C849IO118-public-nudity-aid-revised.pdf

As for “future serious sex offender”, you need to get a grip.

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 16:00

Lillibridge · 14/06/2025 15:54

The law makes exception for naturism. You can sunbathe nude in your back garden, as long as your intention is nor to cause offence or alarm.

And I am pushing back against the insane assumption from lots of seemingly incredibly naive people on this board that this man (doing something that the vast majority of men do not do) is not intending to commit the sexual offence of exhibitionism.

DoctorRoseReturns · 14/06/2025 16:00

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 15:48

Well it is by definition against the law as it has caused her distress. The question is the extent to which this was intentional and the extent to which he does or will commit much more serious offences.

FFS, how come so few on this thread know the law, safeguarding, paraphilias, the way paraphilias cluster and the way sex offending escalates.

At best it is relatively harmless and utterly unnecessary.

At worst he is giving advanced warning that he is a current or future serious sex offender

Fuck off with this scaremongering escalation

It isn't illegal if the intention isn't to cause alarm or distress. Laying in the garden doing nothing but sunbathing isn't intentionally causing alarm or distress.

And people with kinks aren't all sex offenders

You really must be terrified of life

dogcatkitten · 14/06/2025 16:00

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 15:48

Well it is by definition against the law as it has caused her distress. The question is the extent to which this was intentional and the extent to which he does or will commit much more serious offences.

FFS, how come so few on this thread know the law, safeguarding, paraphilias, the way paraphilias cluster and the way sex offending escalates.

At best it is relatively harmless and utterly unnecessary.

At worst he is giving advanced warning that he is a current or future serious sex offender

Being naked in your garden makes you a potential sex offender?? Tell that to all the naturists in the world. and I don't think 'I find it repulsive' would be enough 'distress'. If he saw her looking and waved his dick at her maybe. Surely just don't look, I find it odd peering into someone else's garden out of an upstairs window, you might vaguely look in that direction, but full on staring is odd. If the OP was in a teeny weeny bikini and he was staring out of his upstairs window I don't think she would be best pleased.

doughnutscoffee · 14/06/2025 16:01

A whole thread dedicated to a unknown single man sun bathing in his own garden.
He dont even know that hes been body shamed called names accused by strangers online.
And all he has done is sit in his own garden.
Not just you op but a lot on this thread should look at themself and the comments you have made.
What has the world come to.

Blessthismess2 · 14/06/2025 16:01

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 15:48

Well it is by definition against the law as it has caused her distress. The question is the extent to which this was intentional and the extent to which he does or will commit much more serious offences.

FFS, how come so few on this thread know the law, safeguarding, paraphilias, the way paraphilias cluster and the way sex offending escalates.

At best it is relatively harmless and utterly unnecessary.

At worst he is giving advanced warning that he is a current or future serious sex offender

No this isn’t true.
Its not by definition illegal because it caused OP distress. It needs to be intentional on his part to be unlawful, so it would need to be
a) he intended to be seen
&
b) he intended to cause distress

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 16:02

DoctorRoseReturns · 14/06/2025 16:00

Fuck off with this scaremongering escalation

It isn't illegal if the intention isn't to cause alarm or distress. Laying in the garden doing nothing but sunbathing isn't intentionally causing alarm or distress.

And people with kinks aren't all sex offenders

You really must be terrified of life

I would rather scaremonger deeply unusual paraphilia adjacent (at best) behaviour and protect my kids than simply assume the bloke with his cock out has no bad intent.

BIossomtoes · 14/06/2025 16:02

Oh go and have a lie down and a nice cup of tea @JamieCannister. I think you might be a bit poorly.

DoctorRoseReturns · 14/06/2025 16:02

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 16:00

And I am pushing back against the insane assumption from lots of seemingly incredibly naive people on this board that this man (doing something that the vast majority of men do not do) is not intending to commit the sexual offence of exhibitionism.

No you just have an issue with men

There will be plenty of men who sunbath naked
Others who don't because of small minded people like you but would like to just for comfort and not for any other reason

He's just laying in his garden, sunbathing. That's all.

DoctorRoseReturns · 14/06/2025 16:04

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 16:02

I would rather scaremonger deeply unusual paraphilia adjacent (at best) behaviour and protect my kids than simply assume the bloke with his cock out has no bad intent.

  • A bloke simply existing in his garden

Your kids will have unreasonable paranoia with this attitude

Thedeuce · 14/06/2025 16:05

I would LOVE to sunbathe naked. Love it.

My garden isn’t even overlooked and I still don’t because of the risk someone will think I’m so kind of perv. Well actually I’m a woman so some kind of show off/exhibitionist/husband stealer

LillyPJ · 14/06/2025 16:05

StrikeForever · 14/06/2025 15:07

in what way is it risky?

Well, I guess he might get sunburn on some delicate parts!

mybrainpills · 14/06/2025 16:06

doughnutscoffee · 14/06/2025 16:01

A whole thread dedicated to a unknown single man sun bathing in his own garden.
He dont even know that hes been body shamed called names accused by strangers online.
And all he has done is sit in his own garden.
Not just you op but a lot on this thread should look at themself and the comments you have made.
What has the world come to.

So true its shameful half the comments are barking mad.

Hydenseek78 · 14/06/2025 16:08

ZooHannah · 14/06/2025 15:19

Another friend put it nicely - if my kids looked out of the window when at school and saw a naked man, he’d be locked up!

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No he wouldnt actually, its not against the law to be naked in your garden as long as the garden is not visiable from public spaces or causing harrassement. The police will ask him to refrain from it during school hours but cant enforce it, if its a regular occurance it will get escalated. Stop being a perv and spying on your neighbour from your windows, commenting on peoples bodies is just downright rude. What was you husband doing watching the neighbour in the first place, thats just weird and then you running to get an eye full. I'm glad your not my neighbour. The man was in his safe space unaware he was being gawped at like a zoo animal. Unless your kids bedroom windows overlooks his garden and they are actively looking in his garden how will they know he's naked if he has a fence high enough you can't see in from ground level ?

KrisAkabusi · 14/06/2025 16:08

ZooHannah · 14/06/2025 15:19

Another friend put it nicely - if my kids looked out of the window when at school and saw a naked man, he’d be locked up!

Edited

Yes, but he's not at the school so it's a completely different situation. FFS.

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/06/2025 16:14

JamieCannister · 14/06/2025 15:48

Well it is by definition against the law as it has caused her distress. The question is the extent to which this was intentional and the extent to which he does or will commit much more serious offences.

FFS, how come so few on this thread know the law, safeguarding, paraphilias, the way paraphilias cluster and the way sex offending escalates.

At best it is relatively harmless and utterly unnecessary.

At worst he is giving advanced warning that he is a current or future serious sex offender

The law does also look at what is reasonable - look up 'reasonable person test' or 'reasonable man - UK law'...

Because yes, the OP might genuinely be distressed - though any court, on hearing she was told the neighbour was naked and her response was to go and look for herself would find that doubtful - but is that distress reasonable.

In this case, given the neighbour is in his own garden, sunbathing, not, standing on a podium with flashing lights and disco tunes, helicoptering his cock whilst screaming LOOK AT ME BITCHES... they're really not going to find it reasonable to be distressed by this.

Otherwise we could all claim we were distressed or felt threatened by any number of perfectly reasonable actions/behaviours of other people. eg:

'I am distressed by the OP's posts - she's therefore a criminal, lock her up'.

Or:

'My new neighbour who I have no prior history with, knocked on my door today and I refused to answer it, I felt threatened and distressed - lock them up'...

Not reasonable is it. Even if those feelings of distress/threat are real for the person experiencing them!

HostaCentral · 14/06/2025 16:20

Reminds me on Ian Pollard the Naked Gardener. He often only used to wear wellies. No-one cared, he wasn't arrested, thousands of people visited his garden. He just liked being naked in the fresh air. Lovely.

BIossomtoes · 14/06/2025 16:21

ZooHannah · 14/06/2025 15:19

Another friend put it nicely - if my kids looked out of the window when at school and saw a naked man, he’d be locked up!

Edited

You’re friend’s as batshit as you are. They’re not at school and he’s in his own garden.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/06/2025 16:21

LillyPJ · 14/06/2025 16:05

Well, I guess he might get sunburn on some delicate parts!

Or, he might be hunted down and killed by @JamieCannister’s mob, on the basis that he’s paedophile adjacent.

anyolddinosaur · 14/06/2025 16:24

I was taught it was rude to stare at people in their gardens, I suggest teaching your children the same. Or get a shade sail and position it carefully.

Hairgrip · 14/06/2025 16:30

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Body shaming someone because things aren't going your way. Cute.

StrikeForever · 14/06/2025 16:36

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Wow! You’re a nasty piece of work aren’t you?

Prayingforananswer · 14/06/2025 16:39

ZooHannah · 14/06/2025 15:19

Another friend put it nicely - if my kids looked out of the window when at school and saw a naked man, he’d be locked up!

Edited

IF. That big little word.

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