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Career or looks in women?

146 replies

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:07

What do you think it more important for a woman? I’ve seen some very beautiful women do well in life without a “well paid” career.. I get that career will make your own money but is a career really necessary if your attractive?

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CleverButScatty · 13/06/2025 17:27

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:23

Sorry I mean as in they can use their beauty to marry into money etc and wouldn’t necessary have to work… where as I’ve seen women working hard not have anytime to take care of themselves sorry if it comes off as sexist It was just something I’ve noticed..

I can't imagine how hideous life as a trophy wife, in a marriage with not real love and respect, must be.

RhaenysRocks · 13/06/2025 17:28

Jesus Christ OP..really? Yes some v attractive women will marry money but the days of doing so and then being financially secure in divorce when they are "traded in" for a newer, younger , shinier version are long gone. They'd be expected to get a job and support themselves, especially if it was a shorter marriage. Not exactly a secure or desirable life plan is it?

MyCyanReader · 13/06/2025 17:30

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:23

Sorry I mean as in they can use their beauty to marry into money etc and wouldn’t necessary have to work… where as I’ve seen women working hard not have anytime to take care of themselves sorry if it comes off as sexist It was just something I’ve noticed..

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Only a twat of a man would marry a woman purely for her looks. If the two of them are that shallow they deserve each other.

Crushed23 · 13/06/2025 17:31

I wish I could post a photo of one of the senior partners in my firm. She’s 50ish and arrestingly beautiful. High achieving women tend to be good at time management: they fit in exercise and self-care around a busy job and children. The idea that they all work themselves into the ground and look like shit is a complete nonsense.

EBearhug · 13/06/2025 17:32

It's not either/or. There have been studies which show good-looking people are more likely to get job interviews and promotions than other people with similar qualifications and experience.

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:33

I don’t know why people are getting so offended lol I was simply asking a question stupid or not I genuinely just wanted peoples opinion and am enjoying reading the replies.. is that not what mumsnet is for? And it’s been a long day I could use proper grammar if I wanted but I really Cba lol

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Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:36

Crushed23 · 13/06/2025 17:31

I wish I could post a photo of one of the senior partners in my firm. She’s 50ish and arrestingly beautiful. High achieving women tend to be good at time management: they fit in exercise and self-care around a busy job and children. The idea that they all work themselves into the ground and look like shit is a complete nonsense.

But a lot that combine careers and motherhood do.. we end up on the backburner in comparison to men that’s the norm to still get their freedom a lot of the time

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Pyjamatimenow · 13/06/2025 17:37

Some women might be able to get by in life riding on their looks alone but it’s a bit of a gamble to rely on it. Lots of beautiful women get screwed over by men and dumped.

Crushed23 · 13/06/2025 17:37

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:36

But a lot that combine careers and motherhood do.. we end up on the backburner in comparison to men that’s the norm to still get their freedom a lot of the time

I have no idea what this means?

SilenceInside · 13/06/2025 17:38

What you''re talking about there is nothing to do with attractiveness and everything to do with the inequalities that still exist in our society around expectations for men compared to women. Motherhood and childcare being the points where it can really become noticeably different for many women. This is all well known.

Meadowfinch · 13/06/2025 17:39

There are plenty of beautiful women who have married into money and been profoundly unhappy before being discarded. It's hardly a new tale and a terrible waste of a life.

A woman needs self respect and independence. She needs a career so that if life deals her a bad hand, she can support herself and her children. She must have the ability to walk away. Men can leave, become violent, be controlling, abusive. They can die and leave no life insurance. Become alcoholic or drug addicted.

You should never ever rely wholly on one other person, man or woman because the unexpected can always happen.

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:39

Crushed23 · 13/06/2025 17:37

I have no idea what this means?

Someone please explain…

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NoThankYouSis · 13/06/2025 17:39

Career and then buy yourself a pretty husband is best. Grin

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:41

Meadowfinch · 13/06/2025 17:39

There are plenty of beautiful women who have married into money and been profoundly unhappy before being discarded. It's hardly a new tale and a terrible waste of a life.

A woman needs self respect and independence. She needs a career so that if life deals her a bad hand, she can support herself and her children. She must have the ability to walk away. Men can leave, become violent, be controlling, abusive. They can die and leave no life insurance. Become alcoholic or drug addicted.

You should never ever rely wholly on one other person, man or woman because the unexpected can always happen.

This is the unaggressive kind of response I was interested in but I have ruffled a few feathers…

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SilenceInside · 13/06/2025 17:42

This reminds me of the Cher quote

"My mom said to me, 'You know sweetheart, one day you should settle down and marry a rich man.' And I said, 'Mom, I am a rich man.'"

Her point was that she was independently able to support herself, and then any relationship she chose to enter into was on equal terms and not a matter of one person (her) being totally reliant on the other (man).

ginasevern · 13/06/2025 17:46

MyCyanReader · 13/06/2025 17:30

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Only a twat of a man would marry a woman purely for her looks. If the two of them are that shallow they deserve each other.

Yeah and there are a lot of twatish men who not only marry someone for looks but then dump her for a younger model. I mean, it's not exactly scoop of the century is it.

Meadowfinch · 13/06/2025 17:48

I was good looking a long time ago. And I have a career. The career has lasted longer than my looks.

As a result, I have my dc, my house, a pension, financial security, a nice life. I can choose who I spend my time with purely on the basis of if they make me happy.

I see so many of my friends struggling on or trying to extract themselves from miserable marriages. Retirement is approaching and the reality of spending all day every day with a man they don't like much any more is a daunting prospect.

I would always advise a DD to gain some marketable qualifications. They make a great safety net.

Arseynal · 13/06/2025 17:50

Isnt the average age for marriage about 30? Although I think older men would consider a much younger bride if pretty. It seems a bit of a risk to just doss about for a decade after leaving school on the assumption that some shallow arsehole will fund you indefinitely. Such a transactional arrangement could come under the umbrella of “career” but it’s not one I’d care for.

scaffoldingyawn · 13/06/2025 17:51

samsonny · 13/06/2025 17:10

Looks fade then what do you fall back on?

50:50 divorce settlement

pottylolly · 13/06/2025 17:54

In my experience beauty and career go hand in hand. Beautiful women never remain beautiful on another person’s dime unless that person happens to be rich and generous.

MayaPinion · 13/06/2025 17:54

You should never rely on your romantic relationship for you livelihood. Beautiful women still get cheated on, and left high and dry. People who want to be with beautiful women solely for their looks will always be chasing beauty. You have also peaked looks wise by about 40, so then it becomes relentless round of hiding greys, Botox and filler, and restrictive eating and exercise regimes so that you can still try to compete with 20 year olds. It’s no way to live your life.

Have your own money, get an education and a career, travel, meet a man who loves you regardless of your beauty (great if you are, but it doesn’t matter if you aren’t because you are solvent, educated, and well travelled. You can make your own rules and choices then).

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:55

MayaPinion · 13/06/2025 17:54

You should never rely on your romantic relationship for you livelihood. Beautiful women still get cheated on, and left high and dry. People who want to be with beautiful women solely for their looks will always be chasing beauty. You have also peaked looks wise by about 40, so then it becomes relentless round of hiding greys, Botox and filler, and restrictive eating and exercise regimes so that you can still try to compete with 20 year olds. It’s no way to live your life.

Have your own money, get an education and a career, travel, meet a man who loves you regardless of your beauty (great if you are, but it doesn’t matter if you aren’t because you are solvent, educated, and well travelled. You can make your own rules and choices then).

100% this

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BethDuttonYeHaw · 13/06/2025 17:56

Peoplearebloodyidiots · 13/06/2025 17:09

Surely it depends on what your life goals are? And your value system. What a fucking ridiculous and stupid question.

100% this. 🤦‍♀️

its sad that this mindset persists in 2025

Coffeeloveer · 13/06/2025 17:59

BethDuttonYeHaw · 13/06/2025 17:56

100% this. 🤦‍♀️

its sad that this mindset persists in 2025

Edited

It’s not a mindset I’m actually the career one but it’s what I’ve noticed around me stop making assumptions

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yeesh · 13/06/2025 17:59

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