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AIBU?

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To not let my BD take my toddler away to see his side of the family

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MoonlightDream · 13/06/2025 01:36

AIBU not to let my BD come take my DD away from me on short notice (less than a week) for a day on the weekend to see her grandma and aunt, when he doesn’t live with me and I’m not on good terms with his mother? The grandma wants to see DD after being away abroad for a month but she got BD to message me telling me he's "going to come and take DD" with no plans to when he'll take her back.

His mother is one of those business women that have very strong opinions about everything, including telling me how to raise my DD. She's is a shopaholic and loves to spoil DD with lots of things every time she meets (approx once a month) which I'm grateful for, but the problem is it's often too much, especially with limited space in my living situation. She's also forgetful, forgets what she bought previously or my failed feeble attempts to remind her and I end up with at least 5 or more of the same type of things, enough for twins or more! I'm not exaggerating when I say we had 10 baby blankets.

OP posts:
Dillydollydingdong · 13/06/2025 23:47

£60 PW towards groceries? Probably about right. It works out at £240 pm. Unless you go to CMS and get them to assess it.

MoonlightDream · 13/06/2025 23:49

Dillydollydingdong · 13/06/2025 23:47

£60 PW towards groceries? Probably about right. It works out at £240 pm. Unless you go to CMS and get them to assess it.

I see. This is also money I don't see or access. The only way I can use it is if he goes grocery shopping together and he pays for it.

OP posts:
MoonlightDream · 13/06/2025 23:51

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/06/2025 22:57

The drip feed threads are very irritating.
They're almost embellished for the audience.

Felt it would be too long of a post to have all this in the OP but maybe I should have done that from the get go

OP posts:
MorrisseysMisery · 13/06/2025 23:57

Slatterndisgrace · 13/06/2025 01:54

I got lost at baby daddy - what’s wrong with daddy/dad/father?

OP is being unreasonable by using the term "Baby Daddy"
Sounds very teenager-y

I know this is not the point of OP thread.

MoonlightDream · 13/06/2025 23:59

Ilovelurchers · 13/06/2025 21:56

OP, if you are still convinced, after all this, that you genuinely want advice from people on this site, I would get your thread deleted, and try again, using their preferred terminology.

BD is of course a widely understood phrase, essentially impossible to miunderstand in this context, but people on here will associate it with the working class, and therefore tear you to shreds for your presumption in daring to have a child when (they think) you are poor......

Goodness gracious, I see why people are tearing into me for this. Tiktok culture has gotten to me without me realising. I only meant to say father of my child, unplanned but she's much loved and wanted at least from my side. I can afford DD on my own, I'm grateful to have support from my side of the family. DD's dad wasn't ready and didn't want this but he had guilt and said it went against his morals to ditch us, hence the reluctance and part time involvement.

OP posts:
cherish123 · 14/06/2025 00:04

BD
I assume she means DB - darling boyfriend

MoonlightDream · 14/06/2025 00:06

Laura95167 · 13/06/2025 22:08

In your OP I don't see the issue in your DP taking his DD to see his mum. Youve said you're a couple, hes her dad so why would he give more notice that he wants to visit his mum with her. He's ask much a parent as you are. I bet you don't ask about taking her to your mums.

Although you've later drip fed hes aggressive and physically assaults you in supermarkets dragging you about. Is he DP or exP? Is he on the birth certificate? Is he paying maintainence? And DGM leaves DD with bruises!?!?

At this point youre either a family ot you're not. Either the Qn is AIBU DP wants to take DD to visit his mum and gave me less than a weeks notice? In whichcase yes, do you ask permission or give notice to take her to your mums? Or it's ExP who doesn't contribute financially, is physically aggressive asked to take DD to his mums where DD often returns with bruises? In whichcase letting this continue is facilitating abuse, and you need to get court ordered agreed access where DD is safe and provided for

Ok yeah that makes more sense for the question I should I put in the OP. Sleep deprived brain just caused a bunch of confusion

OP posts:
Oldwmn · 14/06/2025 00:30

Slatterndisgrace · 13/06/2025 01:42

BD?

Yes, what fresh hell is this?

Calliopespa · 14/06/2025 00:37

Temporaryanonymity · 13/06/2025 02:20

Drip drip drip

Yes it’s very drip, drip, drip.

We started out with having too many baby blankets - which wasn’t really a problem I could imagine being insurmountable - and then somehow the bruises are mentioned almost by the by.

Bestwishes23 · 14/06/2025 00:50

MoonlightDream · 13/06/2025 02:04

See that's the thing, I don't know what to call it anymore. We've been together for 3 years but we live separately, and really in the last year he's only been coming over to help out 3 days a week with one of those days sometimes spent on hanging out with friends and Sundays is marathon training where he would come back in the afternoon, help for dinner routine and then leave to go back to his place.

Reason being it's easier (20mins quicker) to get to work from his place in the morning and he doesn't have his own "space" at my place because it's just a one bed flat. We did discuss moving in to his place which is bigger but it never worked out.

Hi, OP. Sorry, back from last night. Seems like he's benefiting from this flexible arrangement and that's leaving you both not knowing what may happen from one day to the next. What stopped the move into his place?

Cassieskinsismad · 14/06/2025 02:09

Gran doesn't accept no for an answer

You don't owe rude people politeness OP. Stop explaining yourself in an attempt to justify your parenting decisions. You don't need gran to agree/give permission/understand/be ok, with your ways etc. All she has to do is accept it. And she has absolutely no choice about that! You are DD parent, you make the decisions, not gran. If she keeps on at you, cease contact with her. Why would you visit, or be visited by, a bully? She'll see DD when your partner has contact time with DD, if he agrees to gran seeing her. It's nothing to do with you whether she sees DD or not, so remove yourself from that equation. You don't have to be bullied by this woman. You're justified in telling her to fuck off, literally.

I wouldn't say bored, it was him saying I'm not efficient enough, I don't stick to the routine and schedules on the dot and he's not understanding that it's hard to follow routines to a T with a young child

Efficient?! He isn't your boss OP. You're entitled to be as inefficient as you like. He's only on these shopping trips because he's financially controlling you. He could give you the money and you could go be inefficiently browsing the socks with flowers in and the stripey notebooks and the merits of these tomatoes over those ones, to your heart's content, if he doesn't like the way you shop. But he won't, will he, because then you're outside the home, even worse you're alone with just DD and worse than that, you're in a place where there's men - and he can't be having that now can he!

Him being trained in the army has drilled in this strict sense of routine and time management.

And him being an abusive arsehole is why he tries to force his ways onto you. He doesn't get to dictate what your routine is, how long it takes or even if there is a routine at all.

You. Can. Do. Whatever. You. Like. With. Your. Own. Life.

And if he doesn't like it, he can join his mother in far away fuck-off-land, the further the better really.

Cassieskinsismad · 14/06/2025 02:13

MoonlightDream · 14/06/2025 00:06

Ok yeah that makes more sense for the question I should I put in the OP. Sleep deprived brain just caused a bunch of confusion

If you want to, you can report your opening post yourself and ask MNHQ to change the title for you.

Cassieskinsismad · 14/06/2025 02:17

Dillydollydingdong · 13/06/2025 23:47

£60 PW towards groceries? Probably about right. It works out at £240 pm. Unless you go to CMS and get them to assess it.

I guess you missed the part about him being there 3 days a week and eating these groceries too. And using the water/electric etc. It's a pittance.

Cassieskinsismad · 14/06/2025 02:26

MoonlightDream · 13/06/2025 23:16

So it happens when I'm looking at food labels or pondering what to get for this meal I have in mind, I feel it's only a couple mins but then he would grab my wrist really tight, I try resisting but it's futile because I'm a lot weaker than him, and he would drag me away to get to the check out. I sternly tell him not to but he still does it anyways. I don't raise my voice for fear it scares DD

If you want to model appropriate behaviour in response to such physical abuse, plant your feet, refuse to move, let him escalate it until he's physically pulled you off your feet, whilst yelling loudly "TAKE TOUR HANDS OFF ME! I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH YOU! LEAVE ME ALONE! YOU'RE HURTING ME!" and see how quickly one of the many customers and staff in the supermarket calls the police.

You're not obliged to move just because someone bigger and stronger than you wants you to. He has no rights to force you to move.

Let DD see the truth, that he's abusive.

TheBig50 · 14/06/2025 02:27

You sound like my sons ex, mother of my grandchild - any excuse. I was the nightmare...!

Guess what? She grew up a bit, I calmed down. I absolutely adore her and we love each other likewise. I've met her new partner, I've helped her move home. She'll phone me if she's in a tizz about anything...and I have a wonderful relationship with my granddaughter.

You are blocking a relationship between child and grandmother. You are being completely ungrateful and controlling.
10 baby blankets? Open your mouth and have an adult conversation about your issues.
I expected you to say a weekend. It's a day.
The only one missing out is the child.

TheBig50 · 14/06/2025 02:36

Okay. I obviously missed posts regarding domestic violence.

My ex broke my hand 3 weeks post c-section. My hand was covering my head whilst I was on the floor and he was punching it.

Get on touch with GP. Or in my case health visitor.

They put me in touch with then Social Services - I attended a group with lots of women who'd been through similar. It was really confidence and strength building.

I'm so sorry for my previous post. I have been on the end of many a vicious word from sons ex. It's upsetting. I'm so glad we have come through. They're still split obviously, we have a rule that we won't talk about it.

Get some support, there is lots out there. Just to get you out, build your confidence, make new friends.

Once again, I am truly sorry xx

Cassieskinsismad · 14/06/2025 02:51

And no we don't share the same bed, he complains that it's been well over a year and a half

Good for you. Although it begs the question, why the fuck is he there in your home?! You've basically got a control freak housemate, who considers himself your boyfriend, lives there part time without paying rent or bills and just happens to be the father of your child.

If he's there to see DD then stop facilitating his deadbeat ways. You and your home and your life aren't something he can use at his own convenience and co-opt into his life when it suits him.

If he wants contact time with her, he takes her to his place and parents her himself. This includes providing anything she needs including toys, clothes, food, bed and bedding etc. If he has her overnight, he should wash and dry the clothes she comes in and return her in them, because those are your clothes for her not his. If he has a problem during this time, he deals with it without calling you for help or expecting you to do anything. If she's sick on his day, he nurses her. If she needs to go to hospital, he takes her. If she needs collecting from school halfway through the day, he leaves work and collects her. That's being a parent.

I suspect the minute he's having to do all this, you won't see him for dust. There's a reason most absent fathers have EOW at best, they don't want more than that, it would cramp their style and affect their career. Two things they care about far more than parenting their own children, in most cases.

Work on your self esteem, that he's no doubt helped reduce/destroy, then you'll stop seeing a man who reluctantly says they'll not break up with you upon birthing their child, as a catch. You're worth more than that. DD is worth more than that. You want to be a family, but with someone who wants to be, not someone with a sulky attitude that effectively says ok, if I must and then proceeds to make your life hell. Women's charity can help you. Standing up for yourself will help you. You're as strong and able as anyone else out there. This is a blip in your life and you can come out the other side, but only if you take the steps and keep going. Good luck 🍀

keffie12 · 14/06/2025 04:07

MoonlightDream · 13/06/2025 02:20

Would it be worth getting a lawyer involved to have this set legally? Frankly I've gotten terrified of him in the last year, he was previously in the army and occasionally he uses that against me be in it shouting or physically dragging me through the store to get the shop done quicker because I was "taking too long looking at stuff" and 40mins isn't quick enough for a weekly shop

You do realise your in domestic abuse with him doing this? You need out of this relationship. Get in touch with women's aid too for support

Slatterndisgrace · 14/06/2025 05:54

Oldwmn · 14/06/2025 00:30

Yes, what fresh hell is this?

You do know that you are now classed as a racist and ‘classist’ for typing those six words, don’t you?

Wtafdidido · 14/06/2025 06:00

Grow up and sort this situation out properly. That means defining your relationship, committing to it or ending it. Get proper access arrangements so everyone knows where they stand and ffs get proper maintenance sorted from him. He is her father and if you don’t trust him or think he is capable of looking after her or will not allow him to build a proper relationship doing all the things a father should be capable of doing then you should not be in a relationship. Go to court and sort this mess out and make a will because he will be in charge of you die. You have a kid so grow up and do right by her. She comes first that’s the bottom line. And maybe use contraceptives so this mess does not get any more complicated. It’s alway the kids that suffer when parents are so irresponsible

merrymelody · 14/06/2025 06:20

WTAF is a BD?

Slatterndisgrace · 14/06/2025 06:24

merrymelody · 14/06/2025 06:20

WTAF is a BD?

Baby Daddy! Watch out for the posters who enjoy accusing people of being racist and classist because a lot of us think the term ‘baby daddy’ is ridiculous.

merrymelody · 14/06/2025 06:45

@SlatterndisgraceI actually don’t know what a baby daddy is… how is different from being a daddy or father or even a male parent? At what point does a “baby daddy” become a “daddy”? Is it only for babies? What does race or class have to do with this weird terminology?

Slatterndisgrace · 14/06/2025 06:58

merrymelody · 14/06/2025 06:45

@SlatterndisgraceI actually don’t know what a baby daddy is… how is different from being a daddy or father or even a male parent? At what point does a “baby daddy” become a “daddy”? Is it only for babies? What does race or class have to do with this weird terminology?

Well, you’re asking the same questions I ask myself, to which there is no explanation. I personally think it’s a ridiculously, childish thing but, apparently because the term originated from African-American vernacular and although a lot of black people don’t like the term either, we are racist for questioning it - work that one out! Oh, and classist!

Oldwmn · 14/06/2025 08:05

Slatterndisgrace · 14/06/2025 05:54

You do know that you are now classed as a racist and ‘classist’ for typing those six words, don’t you?

I will add it to all the the other insults hurled at me 🙂