Neighbour not happy with my fence?

[chcocooo]

So basically after months of neighbours kids:

Playing-on my drive
Trespassing on my drive
Chucking footballs at my living room window.
Constantly standing by my living room window
Shouting and waking my toddlers up.

I finally got a fence installed on Monday which has solved all the issues.

But now my neighbour will apparently struggle to fit two cars on her drive as before the man and his partner would park close on the boundary and his door would open on my bit.
He has asked if I could move the fence further on my bit but it will impact my own ability to have 2 cars on my drive.

AIBU to decline this as it’s on my own drive?

Any passengers get out first and driver reverses car onto drive. Then driver can get out... assuming their house is wider than the width of their car!!
This is what we always do on our drive.

This. Well done you!! CF’s!!

Also this! 😂

Check the plans for your house and make sure you fence is competely on your property.

If it is then just ignore them. They sound like a real bunch of half wits who are trying to intinidate you.

From what you describe they are also committing. acts if anti social behaviour

If they have more issues about parking their car. Tell them uou would be happy to arrange a meeting with them and the police to clarify matters

Or say they should get in touch with their solicitor if they need further legal clarifucation on the matter.

Goid Luck

I feel for you in this situation and I have dealt with police regarding awful neighbours and they are useless. It actually leaves you feeling worse. They don't see discrimination unless it is completely obvious. They do anything to avoid work, basically. You probably do have a case in a civil court, but first have you tried talking to the council?
If you are on means tested benefit you can get free legal aid. Your best bet is the council, though, and OH professional to back you so you have evidence of how this is impacting your quality of life and independence as a disabled person.

Sorry this has hijacked someone elses post.
But back to that subject. Don't move fence. Install cctv in case of "damage". Beyond that they have no legal right to ask you for anything, unless council say fence can't be there. Even then, unless it's on deeds they may not be able to tell you to remove it.

Again the father was complaining today and I just told him straight the fence is remaining how it is.

DH advised him about his kids behaviour and he said “it’s kids being kids” but out of all the kids who live here it’s only theirs that cause such nuisance and antisocial behaviour.

Nobody talks to my neighbours round here because of their kids behaviour.

I talk to everyone ( apart from this couple) and I try to be a good neighbour by getting their bins, accepting parcels etc but most importantly I have consideration and respect for my neighbours and their property.

Well done @chcocooo . It’s very satisfying that for once a CF has been dealt with swiftly and appropriately. It is still frustrating that they don’t understand why it was necessary though.

Well done OP. Kids may be kids but they are not your kids and you are not obliged to deal with them

Good fences make good neighbours. NBU

Well done.

repeat it a couple more times if necessary, then tell him if he mentions it again you will be getting council/police/solicitor involved.

yes it might have been just 'kids being kids' THAT's why they have parents to explain what's ok & what's not! Parent them FGS. Idiot.

'kids being kids' ???

No, it's YOUR kids behaving badly because YOU can't be arsed to parent them properly. No one else's kids behave like that.

Fence stays.

I’d have replied: well it’s a fence, being a fence.

DH advised him about his kids behaviour and he said “it’s kids being kids”...

Well, they can be kids on his side of the fence, & that's all fine now.

Love this. Maybe a Taylor Swift singing version
"'Cause the fence is gonna fence, fence, fence, fence, fence...
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate."

Due only to my poor singing voice, I would be moving to clear and non- conciliatory more like:
"The fence is keeping your family from trespassing on my drive. That's exactly what I put it there to do and it's doing it from exactly where I want it, which is at my boundary line. I'm happy with the fence."

What you do with it when you have picked it up?

I saw someone take out a bag or similar, picked up the mess and dropped it in the gutter.

I'm really pleased for you that the new fence has solved your issues. As for your neighbours complaints, ignore them.

Actions have consequences.
"Your kids were being kids, so I'm being proactive to protect my boundaries.
If you have issues parking your car, that is the consequences of YOUR kids 'being kids' .
If you had kept them from trespassing and being a nuisance then I wouldn't have needed to build a fence to do it for you! "
I think that's kind of what my reply would have been.

I spoke to the neighbour today and she said because all the children on our cul de sac are all in and out of everyone’s driveway she didn’t think it was a major issue.

The children she is referring to are her own and a couple of other kids a few doors down who are in and out.
I told her my driveway is not a meeting point for the kids to play or for the moms to have a chat as I find it very intrusive people constantly walking past my window on my driveway.

She walked off.
The issues have now been resolved and I just wish I had done it sooner.

Good for you. Your prerogative to decide which activities and uses of YOUR property are an issue and which aren’t. Her opinion on the subject has no relevance.

PS. One of my past sets of neighbours were similar and I said to them “When you contribute towards my mortgage, you can have an opinion on how I use my garden” they were complaining I hadn’t dead headed some flowers 😒

Just another CF with little respect raising children in her image.

No normal person wants their property used as a public park.

I think a video bell would be very wise OP if you don't already have one.

Well done. Good fences make good neighbours as they say!

She didn't think it was a major issue?

So you telling them several times you didn't like it didn't give her a clue at all?

Well if that's true she must be extremely stupid.

But of course what she means is it wasn't a problem for her and you should have just stfu and let them walk all over you.

because all the children on our cul de sac are all in and out of everyone’s driveway she didn’t think it was a major issue
I'm a big believer in responding how people communicate themselves and this is a lovely feed for your future lines about the fence.
"It just shows the boundary so everyone knows not to go on our drive, I don't think it's an issue."... and walk.

I told her my driveway is not a meeting point for the kids to play or for the moms to have a chat as I find it very intrusive people constantly walking past my window on my driveway.
This is excellent, very clear OP, well done.

I bloody hate this too. They would be better off not picking it up at all. They pick it up and polute the trees, or block drainage by then flinging it in the air. What is the point other than to be ignorant?

You need to follow the law on fences. Fences on the property line are owned by both neighbors. One neighbor can pay the total cost if they wish. Cities may require a minimum setback. I was told by my neighbor that he wanted stone in his backyard for parking. He took an old fence down. He took an invasive tree down. He did some other things for me afterward. Someone, the police say kids, through some of his stones at my garage windows and broke them. I have four neighbors abutting my property. Another one just ignores the property line, no trimming of bushes, no shared replacement of ancient fence. Then there is the shared driveway neighbor, who had to learn that a shared driveway does not mean shared property alongside it. No dog poop, no trimming. And his land is moving the driveway over because his hill is no longer held up by a wall. The fourth property, for some reason, every new owner thinks they own two feet of mine. Mowing it, signs put on it. DO NOT AGGRAVATE NEIGHBORS! They will acquiesce to legal decisions. Making trouble with the vehicles is generally against the law if there is something in the deed. But there are laws governing fences too. I think you were nit wise enough to deal with the kids, but, people with kids usually want fences. Tell the kids to stay off the lawn and set back the fence. In my opinion fences are not moveable. Good fences make good neighbors.