AIBU to feel sorry for Wynne Evans?

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He has NO clue.

Watched his interview on breakfast tv, explaining away all the misunderstandings, jokes and social experiments he was involved in which resulted in his BBC contract 'not being renewed '.

He played all the cards, mental health, dead brother, context, editing.

Of course he was in the studio to promote his latest venture, hoping to drum up interest.

Why do so many people ruin the amazing chances they're given? Baffling.

Hardly sexual harassment, predatory perversion is it? These words are being bandied around on here.

I don't think I've ever worked anywhere that didn't include the odd rude joke. Lots of them by idiots. The people he was talking to are still his friends.

Let's just keep a sense of perspective, if he gets sacked then I don't have a problem with that, but speaking about him as if he's some sort of sex offender is just stupid.

No, he's not a sex offender. And he's not been charged with any offences, quite rightly. His kind of low-level harassment isn't enough to be illegal.

It is enough to pass the threshold of workplace harassment, however.

And it's enough to cause his employer (BBC) to not renew his contract.
There's plenty of talent out there waiting for their break, they don't need to employ people who create bad press.

Except, he didn't.

One word he used as a nickname was taken out of context.

A dumb 'game' he and Katya played backfired.

He sent a sex toy as a joke to a friend (again, dumb, but to a male friend).

He's in the public eye so he should have thought a bit more carefully about all the above, but it hardly makes him a monster.

@TwoBakedOnes I wonder what they were trying to achieve with the groping the waist/bat the hand off “game”. Were they taking the piss out of men who grope women or was Katya teaching girls at home that a ‘no means no’ gesture is just a “joke” and can all be wiped away with an instagram video? because I don’t get what they were trying to achieve if it was a game, what they were hoping the viewers would see. It’s why I don’t believe it was a game and she’s just covering for him.

Your interpretation is not shared by me, or by his former employers, it seems.

I haven't said he's a monster. I don't think he's a monster. I think he's a low level sex pest who got caught (more than once).

He sure should have thought more carefully.

There were ongoing complaints about his comments, only one towards, but many in front of staff members. It seemed he'd turn everything into something sexual. He was warned, but it continued. Apparently he got on really well with Greg Wallace when he was on Masterchef.

I agree he should have thought more carefully (or even thought at all).

And it's okay to have different interpretations, that's what's great about this forum!

I think the BBC threw him under the bus because Strictly is already struggling with so many scandals and allegations recently.

They harmed him by not allowing him & Katya's first video after their pre-planned high five and hand move daft experiment.

He wasn't sacked I don't think? His contract wasn't renewed. Which in this case seems important - there were no 'offences' that enabled dismissal, but instead they decided not to renew because of the media narrative surrounding him.

Which seems unfair, as they helped create the 'creep' media narrative and the media just scraped the barrel trying to find other things he'd done/said.

The defense for this man on here is shocking. Also will people stop suggesting Katya was in on this all along and understand that the creep won, the BBC tried to minimise it and she was submissive and did what she was told to keep her job. Katya had already brought the press to Strictly with her cheating and had to go along with whatever the BBC told her to.

WE behaved appallingly and the BBC, again, didn’t step up and protect their female employee but merely made her smile and nod her head through fear.

He didn't realise it was being recorded - only the stills photographers were there at that point and a newspaper reporter who captured it on a phone.

So, no, he wasn't being transparent and in fact ranted about the unfairness of being recorded (on his Facebook page).
Sleazy and also very naive, he was at a press call!

I may have have some knowledge that suggests he deliberately set up his finances in a way that screwed over his ex wife quite spectacularly and disadvantaged his child. That knowledge does not come from his wife but from a company that helped him to do if anyone is thinking there is bias.
He is not a loveable buffon, believe me.

You are so right, finally someone speaking sense! He is a very calculated individual and a total narcissist. I really hope his new fiancee figures this all out before she marries him so he can't screw over another innocent woman - as someone already mentioned on here, he has already cheated on her. Absolute scum! He doesn't care what his actions do to others.

Yes I realise he didn't know about the video, but there were loads of witnesses. Plus the video shows he clearly says "spit roast boy" to Jamie.

Everyone here claiming to know what really happened and that Katya was lying to cover for him and who knows Wynne personally. It wouldn't be right to take the word of anonymous internet people for that.

The evidence that he is a sexual predator that the public have seen is non-existent. He may be a dick in loads of ways, I don't know, but in this particular circumstance I will need more evidence before I'm persuaded.

Some of you on here are entering libel territory so I hope you're sure of yourselves. It wouldn't surprise me at all if people are googling his name to see what's being said on a forum seen by so many people. Be careful!

FYI for those who believe there were no complaints about him at the BBC.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14813267/Seven-BBC-women-alerted-bosses-Wynne-Evans-conduct-did-tell-TVs-Cat-Ben-no-complaints-Ever.html

Katya lied to save herself, her job, not to cover up for him.

Don’t like people who don’t agree so suggesting libel? Come on now, be serious.

Calling him a sexual predator is definitely libellous, I'm just warning people that he is named in this thread so they need to be careful. Normally we're talking about unnamed people we don't know and can say what we like.

Are you certain of that though, or is it a theory?

Are you certain otherwise?

And 'spit roast boy' is okay???? You'd have to be living in cloud cuckoo land not to make an association with the sexual connotations of 'spit roast' in any context these days. If you follow his line of reasoning, why wasn't it 'rotisserie' which is what he called it on the ITV interview ?

He doesn't live in cloud cuckoo land.

Many people aren't buying the 'explanations' he's coming up with now, least of all those who were employing him and know him better than we do.

I don't think he's a sexual predator either, I do think he's sleazy and has acted very inappropriately in the workplace.

No-one else should have to tolerate that.

And you’ve missed off your list telling a make up artist that he thought his own double chin resembled a vagina.(waiting to see how you can minimise that next 🙄)

The man is disgusting and vulgar and I would be happy to never have to see him on TV again.

Then we agree.

I'm not saying he's entirely innocent and if you read my post I've been critical of him, but I take objection to him being accused of sexual harassment or being a predator because he hasn't been that. He's been a bit of a dick, yes, but there's a big difference between saying stupid things and being a risk to the safety of his colleagues.

No but we have an innocent until proven guilty system in this country so that people get the facts before they fling dreadful accusations around based on no evidence whatsoever.