AIBU to feel sorry for Wynne Evans?

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He has NO clue.

Watched his interview on breakfast tv, explaining away all the misunderstandings, jokes and social experiments he was involved in which resulted in his BBC contract 'not being renewed '.

He played all the cards, mental health, dead brother, context, editing.

Of course he was in the studio to promote his latest venture, hoping to drum up interest.

Why do so many people ruin the amazing chances they're given? Baffling.

Would there need to be separate categories for straight, gay, bi, trans pervs? Or just throw them all into one snakepit?

This.

I agree with this- I still think he should pay the consequences.

Yep . Let’s just keep turning the other cheek to all these sexist misogynist creeps. It’s ok if they are a bit of fun at times.Women should know their place and continue to serve their purpose as sexual objects for men who have a far higher opinion of themselves than is warranted. That’s how it’s always been. No point in trying to change things

@pimplebum "I am a baffoon who has made gaffs, inappropriate jokes and made bad impressions on people so I can relate and feel sorry for celebrities who are cancelled"

did those gaffes include unwanted touching and sexual jokes?

I don't feel sorry for him.

I don’t have any sympathy for him! He is a sexual predator who doesn’t learn!

BBC is the employer, they have a duty to their workforce to protect them from sexual harassment.

He’s a thoroughly unpleasant man if he can’t take responsibility for his actions!

Good question. I think there would have to be separate categories otherwise there'd be an uproar about diversity.

But often times people don’t understand what has actually played out, just their interpretation of what the media reports.

Take Gregg Wallace - I have personal experience here, but reading countless comments on news articles at the time, people clearly thought his colleagues had taken offence to his clumsy jokes - but it was far more serious than that, instances of exposure as an example.

Proper investigation needs to be carried out & appropriate action taken.

I don't understand why he's seen as a creep now?

Katya openly admitted it was her idea to refuse his high five and move his hand away - she wouldn't be saying that if she felt he was a creep!

I think he's telling the truth about the spitroast comment being taken out of context and he's admitted he was daft to not realise the connotations.

The BBC threw him under the bus, and so did the media, for click bait.

She might be saying it was her idea, but I find it strange that we have never seen her encourage other male celebs to do that in all of the previous series she has done, so it’s out of character for her. But yep, I’m sure it’s innocent sex toy sending Wynne that’s the poor victim of that minx Katya 🙄

And also I should add did you actually see her face in the moment in those clips? I just rewatched the clips on YouTube and she certainly doesn’t look “in” on the joke in the moment.
I think she’s covering up for his “stupidity”.

The female presenter on the breakfast show was struggling to hide her distaste of him during the interview. It was thoroughly uncomfortable altogether.

I’ve just watched it. I don’t get the sex toy thing

He bought it for the other idiot - Jamie Borthwick when they were doing Strictly and a video was made about it.
My point being is it was very much Wynne crossing those boundaries during Strictly, so I do not think the BBC have just made him a fall guy.

I actually know him personally, and when we were working together he was a.) totally hilarious and so much fun to work with, b). Such a nice man and colleague, and actually stood up for me when there was a predatory male singer making crude sexual comments about me behind my back. I haven't been in touch in recent years but cannot believe that he's had a personality transplant since then!

Wynne is a celebrity in Wales, everyone knows him and his radio show was really refreshingly nice.

The complaints about his behaviour weren't made by the women involved.

I think he is guilty of stupidity, and childishness, but a perv? No I don't think we have sufficient evidence of that yet.

I suppose they’ve had so many shamed celebrities in the bbc they could create a series out of it and we vote them off 🤣

Ha! Absolutely brilliant! .

Are you sure the women involved did not complain? Unless you are inside the BBC I am not clear how we can know that.

I feel sorry for katya and Jeanette who had to put up the groping and degrading comments in their workplace

Well Katya has defended him loads of times and says nothing happened. She's posted about how she's missing her "darling boy". Wynne has posted a video of them doing the high five joke numerous times so apparently it was indeed a running joke between them.

No complaints were received about the spit roast comment, according to the BBC themselves, until the Daily Mail video. Wynne said he called Borthwick "spit roast boy" and the video seems to back that up.

I think it's juvenile nonsense, but to call him a "perv" is unjustified with what we've seen.

Katya said what the BBC told her to say if she wanted to keep her job. They have treated her appallingly.

But why would the term 'spit roast' even be in Evans' head in public and in front of reporters at a press call ? (Not that it would have been okay in a professional environment without reporters there).

He knows exactly what it means and I don't for one second buy the 'explanation' he and Borthwick have cooked up. And it wasn't the first time he'd been warned, it's just he was let off the hook previously.

I can't find a violin tiny enough.