I’m really upset I’m still fat

[Refvs]

It’s been years since I’ve been trying to lose weight. I have done lots of diets but I can’t stick to anything. I will not take the weight loss jabs (no judgement to those that do btw) im just lost. I have all the exercise equipment at home but im so fat still. Yes I don’t exercise much so yes I know my fault.

my biggest thing is my emotions. If I have a bad day or great day I will eat loads. Been off work today due to ds being really unwell and from morning till evening I have just stress eaten.

please help me

I was in the same boat. Dieting for 20 years and I was 15st and 5ft.

Mounjaro has been a game changer.

You need to change you taste and eat less. Eating less is self explanatory. Exercise helps but it doesn't shift much weight. You need to change away from sweet food to bitter/sour food. This was our ancestral food. Ditch UPFs (van Tulekan) and embrace Jessie Inchauspé.

@Refvs i also recommend reading Dr Andrew Jenkinson’s book, but I’d say go for his second (most recent) one. The first (Why We Eat Too Much) is a great book but it can be a bit heavy going and might come over a bit disheartening for the most part. How to Eat is a much more reader friendly format, and perhaps more practically focussed.

I could not have even thought about climbing 7 stairs whilst I was carrying an extra 40kgs of weight. Which I lost on the skinny jabs. I’m now weaning themselves off them but I now can walk not just 20m without feeling out of breath but 10km. I was heading down the road of all sorts of cancers being morbidly obese. The injections have me a chance of a reset

I’m with you op. 3st to loose… Same fucking 2-4lbs just on and off all year here.
i’m low carbing. I have a PT.
I’m trying my hardest not to be stressed, but GOD it’s hard work!
and no, am not up for the jabs either.

Serious side effects of being obese.
These include:

• type 2 diabetes
• coronary heart disease
• some types of cancer, such as breast cancer and bowel cancer
• stroke

Living with overweight and obesity can also affect your quality of life and contribute to mental health problems, such as depression, Just for the dozy people who are pretending to think weight lose jabs are more risky than being fat

But you need to exercise as you lose weight otherwise won't you lose muscle mass, slow your metabolism and find it hard to maintain the new weight?

And exercise makes you feel good - any sort. Just a walk outside can help.

How did you get there?

I never said weight loss jabs were more risky than being obese.

I've gone from morbidly obese to healthy weight through calorie counting and weight training. My point is more that it can be done without risking serious side effects of jabs.

The OP made it clear that she didn't want to use the jabs, yet people are piling on telling her to take the jabs. The OP needs motivation, not medication.

We are what we eat. One day you will wake up and decide it is the day when you will start seriously addressing your weight. You have to really want to.

No doubt if you are half of what you have now your weight and figure would improve but it doesn't happen overnight.

Once you get going your appetite decreases and you crave less.

Allow yourself a treat once a week and in a couple of weeks you'll find it difficult to finish it though you will enjoy what you have.

Good on you for not using slimming aids, they are a short term fix, you need to re-educate your body and mind, develop good habits.

Exercise is difficult. Do you like dancing and do you get time to yourself, privacy? Gyrating around using all limbs and your hips to some lively music every day will help. So will lifting a coffee jar full of coins (or something similar), every day on both sides, gradually building up the amount of times you do it. Walk upstairs rather than take the lift at work.

Drink water.

Good luck.

GLP drugs have been used by diabetics for nearly 20 years. There is a huge safety database which shows that in the big scheme of things, the drugs are relatively safe. And if your get them from a licensed and reputable seller (Boots, Asda, Lloyds chemist all do them for example) then you are screened to ensure you are eligible and have access to a doctor and pharmacist at any time to talk about any aspects that concern you.

Yes there are side effects, and yes there is always the chance that you could be the unlucky 1 in 20000 that gets one of the serious side effects, like with all medication. But the vast majority of side effects, going on the threads here, are feeling nauseous as the appetite suppression kicks in, and constipation and/or diarrhoea and gas. The latter mainly if you eat something rich and heavy. Lots of people report side benefits too, like improved conditions involving inflammation, lack of craving for alcohol, more energy as your body’s insulin metabolism is corrected.

If OP doesn't want to try weight loss injections, that's fair enough. They don't suit everyone and they do carry a risk of side effects.

Sorry to potentially detail your thread OP, but can I ask - do you have to have a certain BMI to access the jabs? Mine is 25-26 and as I've hit perimenopause I'm really struggling to shift weight (and I'm short )

Literally no evidence of causing cancer in humans.

Have you ever read the possible side effects of say, paracetamol? Or ibuprofen? How about methotrexate which they dish out to millions of people, a drug so toxic they have to check your blood every month to see if it's destroying your organs.

Or maybe maybe read how the jabs regulate insulin metabolism, lower high blood pressure, decrease inflammation, reduce serious cardiovascular events. To name just a few.

OP I've had some success joining a gym and slowly increasing my exercise. I'm only slightly overweight but I used to be very unfit. Feeling fitter has been a huge confidence booster and encouraged me to stop binge eating.

Nobody can help you, you can only help yourself.

you’ve said you overeat and under exercise, only you have the power to change that. However, I say this as a fat lady who just ate Chinese food, soooo…I clearly can’t take my own advice.

i would recommend holding yourself accountable by going to a class where you will be weighed regularly. Sometimes the routine of it helps people and knowing that they are surrounded by many people in the same boat means the can feed (poor choice of word) off each others success, and support in challenges

Don’t dismiss the weight loss injections. I was very dismissive about them but a colleague persuaded me to try . I am on week 4 and have lost 3.5 kgs ,no side effects and the food noise is switched off .
Today I have worked a twelve hour shift ,I was up at 5am and had a pot of porridge,Caesar salad at lunchtime ,declined the cake at 3pm and just having a chicken leg to increase my protein .
Normally I would have had a takeaway bacon sandwich at 11 any food left over at lunchtime and any cake going at tea time! Plus crisps and crap which I haven’t even thought about . It really has been a game changer. Have also ensured that I drink 2L per day.

If you're going down the calorie counting route just remember that all calories are not created equal.
A day where your main main sources of calories are a) cereal/a cheese sandwich/chicken with noodles and sauce (as an example) might be the same amount of calories as a day where your calories come from b) scrambled eggs/chicken salad/salmon with roast veg, but day b) is infinitely more nutritious and will help you lose weight a lot more effectively because your body won’t be telling you to eat more because it’s looking for more nutrients.

Amen !

Over 30 BMI or 27 if you have other health concerns. I don’t think you’d get them with that BMI.

"Literally no evidence of causing cancer in humans."

I didn't mention causing cancer in humans.

"Have you ever read the possible side effects of say, paracetamol? Or ibuprofen? How about methotrexate which they dish out to millions of people, a drug so toxic they have to check your blood every month to see if it's destroying your organs."

No, why would I when I don't use any of these medications?

I listed some side effects because someone questioned why the jab could be risky. Some people are genuinely oblivious to medications having side effects.

Ok thanks for clarifying that. I'm not that keen away. I think it's a bit of a lazy cop out to trying thr hard way. Different if you're morbidly obese and really need that kick start obviously.

I'm with you. Wouldn't do the jabs. Unaffordable.
Am 14 stone need to loose 4 stone. Will look into slim pod.
Seeing myself in the mirror sometimes I am like who is hat overweight middle aged women!

I can see it's been mentioned upthread already but if you can afford it... Mounjaro. I lost nearly a stone in my first WEEK and three stone over two months. I came off it a couple of months ago as tbh I was looking a bit gaunt and am now a 'healthy' BMI for the first time since I was a teen. Maintaining the weight loss and eating habits tho

But it doesn't work the same for everyone. My H who is obese had to stop it due to vomiting every day (I never had side effects other than tiredness on the higher doses)

I have to say that what you are talking about does sound like exactly the kind of eating the weightloss jabs really help with.

I havent used them but I have a close friend that has and she said that when she had a bad day she would comfort eat on crap, feel bad about doing that, and then make a bad day worse. Now she doesnt. She deals with the bad day issues on their own in her head and doesnt have the lingering guilt of over eating as well. Its hasnt just helped with her weight but also with her mental health and she doesnt look in the mirror and see (her words NOT MINE) a "fat lazy pig with no self control".

I would say that actually for her the help that they have given her in terms of weightloss is secondary to what they have done for her mental health. She doesnt hate herself anymore. She is so much happier, smiles more, takes thing in her stride in a way she never used to. And she hasnt actually lost that much weight so far as she in the early days.

Like I say, I havent used them so no horse in this race, but I wouldnt write them off as an option.