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WIBU to complain about this teacher?

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ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:29

I know what you're thinking - no, I don't hate teachers. DH is a teacher and I used to be a teacher. But, we have a lot of ongoing issues with DS's teacher and I don't know what to do. We are/were secondary though so it's a whole different ball game. We've already raised an issue once but we tried very hard to make it not a personal issue about her - but it feels like one. I'm sorry that this will be long - I have tried to be concise but don't want to be accused of drip-feeding if I clarify things later on.

Usual story - no behavioural issues raised about DS by anyone at any time, ever. Only ever heard positive things - we are very lucky. But our concerns are growing. He's 5 and in Y1 - no issues with his teacher last year or in preschool.

Issues include:

We are absolutely certain that DS has dyspraxia. DH does. DS has almost every symptom - handwriting is illegible no matter how much he tries, and he complains his hands hurt, cannot throw or catch a ball properly, cannot walk in a straight line, cannot do steps with one foot per step, cannot skip, cannot do a two-footed jump, struggles with cutlery. DD (2) can do these things. He falls over daily, hits his head daily, struggles to open/close things, struggles to even do velcro shoes. We mentioned this to his teacher as we had parents' evening around the same time as we spoke to the GP. She agreed with everything we were saying (and we can see on the app where they upload videos that this happens at school). The GP referred to the school nurse who spoke to the teacher. The school nurse has come back to say that the teacher (who completely and totally agreed with us at parents' evening and said she sees all of these same things) had said she has no concerns at all and that she's not witnessed a single one of these symptoms.

We spoke to the school (our one complaint) because DS (who has always and adored school/nursery) absolutely hates school now. Won't get out of bed, cries the night before, cries in the car before going in. He says his teacher hates him. He says she thinks he's stupid. Some of what he says is very specific "Mrs X said [child] is smart than I am". We were very careful raising it with the school and made it more of a general "he's struggling with enjoyment" issue and didn't say anything that was accusatory or personal. We raised that he'd told us he's not good at anything (he actually said "Mrs X said I'm not good at anything") so they said they would work on that. The next day - he got four stickers (his first stickers of the year, this was just before Easter). He got one for standing in the line, another for sitting on the carpet, one for being quiet and one for answering a question (all things he's always done, and things every child would do). Then they announced he was being "celebrated" (one child in each class is chosen each week to be celebrated). Whilst this took on board what we said, and I know I sound like they can't win, it felt a bit like a "fuck you" (like if you ask a child to stop talking in class so they go on silent protest and won't even answer their name in the register). We attended his celebration assembly and his teacher didn't seem to have anything good to even say - my mum came (and I hadn't told her anything about the issues and she raised with me that she thought it was odd compared to the other children being celebrated). She also hadn't written his out for him to hold (which all the other children had). She said that the reason he was being "celebrated" was for a piece of work he'd done well on but it turns out he did that piece of work the same afternoon as the assembly (immediately before the assembly) but we were told he was being celebrated two weeks earlier. I obviously bigged up my son but it was obvious to me that she was praising him begrudgingly.

Back at Christmas, when they had their nativity, DS wanted a speaking part. All the children who wanted a speaking part got a speaking part (that was the rule) but his was the smallest one - 6 words. He was also the only child not on the stage for any of the songs and, at the end, he was the only child who didn't go on the stage to take a bow (he was ushered out with the children who bowed when his group went up to bow). He's one of the shortest children in the class and the rows were on height - except he was right at the back and completely hidden from view except for his 40 seconds on stage. I don't think this was accidental.

At the end of reception, he was in the top reading group (Big Cat Little Wandle 5.2, if that means anything to anyone). In September, he was moved all the way to the bottom reading group. We weren't told that he'd been moved and it only came out in February when we raised that he hadn't gone up a single book band since the summer. The teacher moved him up in February (at parents' evening) when we raised that he hadn't moved up but had no explanation for why he'd not progressed at all and no explanation for why he was now in the bottom group (in fact, she blamed his dyspraxia - which is why we're so confused as to why she's told the school nurse she's not seeing any symptoms). She said that his reading is behind but they won't do any intervention because "water finds its own level" and some children are simply low attainment. Our confusion is that he's been ahead and his report in July said he was ahead but, by September, she assessed that he was behind - but not just "behind", "behind and not worth trying to get back up to speed". We've now had two private assessments and both have said he's ahead on his reading and can't understand why we're concerned.

I understand that it's almost the end of the year and he'll get a new teacher soon but I'm concerned for a lot of reasons. Firstly, she'll be the one doing his phonics check and I simply don't trust her. I have two private assessments that say his reading is ahead and she's saying he can't read at all - I simply don't trust that she'll do the test fairly. Secondly, she'll be doing his handover for his next teacher and if she tells the new teacher that he's dumb as a brick then that's the perception he'll have. Thirdly, it's bordering on bullying - I've had a parent tell me she was unkind about him on a school trip (other parent was a parent helper on the trip and overheard her compare my child to one of the animals in the zoo to other children when my child wasn't there) and if she couldn't feign that she likes him for a celebration assembly, I do wonder what she's like when she thinks no one is looking. I'm also concerned because DS has a facial disfigurement (and had surgery relating to it in the summer) and I wonder if this has played a role in her treatment of him or is maybe why she's decided he's stupid.

Would you complain in this circumstance, or just wait it out? I don't want to be "one of those" but I feel like every few days there's a new incident or issue (and I've heard it from adults too so it's not just that my son is feeling a certain way).

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Hankunamatata · 09/06/2025 16:37

Honestly I think your massively over invested the fact you list his 6 words for speaking part etc. Its like your now looking for things to complain about. You wanted him acknowledge when it was done you take it as an insult.

Id wait it out. If your worried - tutor over the summer with something like word wasp book. Review situation once he is with new teacher.

Perhaps you dc doesnt like his current teacher and isn't cooperating with reading at school.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:39

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Backtothe90ties · 09/06/2025 16:39

I’m a KS1 teacher and you need to say exactly what you’ve said here to the headteacher. I think how they respond will be your answer as to whether the school is the right fit for him. She’s obviously going to deny it to the headteacher but I think if you are clear you have concerns and external evidence including the statement from another parents hopefully they will listen to you.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:39

New teacher next term op
use summer to work with him as much as possible

Backtothe90ties · 09/06/2025 16:40

Also to reassure you she’d be mad to put him back on his phonics screening as it will only look bad for her!

greengreyblue · 09/06/2025 16:40

Oh my goodness that sounds worrying. As for the nativity, it can be hard to divide parts up equally. At my school we try to accommodate requests but can’t always. Speaking is not superior to acting, singing etc. I’m a HLTA in yr1 and 2 and sometimes see disgruntled parents who misunderstand or are told incorrect information by their child which they believe. But, I don’t know why a teacher would want a child to be lower than they are capable of, after all it affects the data. Each child that fails the phonics screen is a percentage of the class so she would want them all the pass. I would raise this issue with the teacher. Book a meeting and ask her to explain what she perceives to be his reading difficulty. Then reveal your private assessment. I would make it clear that you want him to go forward into year 2 enthusiastically and with confidence. If the meeting is not fully reassuring I would be making an appointment with the headteacher.

Figcherry · 09/06/2025 16:41

It does sound personal but not sure what you can do.
I think as it's so late in the year i would concentrate on getting another teacher to do his phonics.
You may have to frame it that there is a personality clash and your ds will do better with another teacher.

When my ds was 7 his teacher moved him down a spelling group, 2 days after we'd had dd so as you can imagine it was chaos at home and his teacher absolutely knew we had a newborn. She refused to make allowances.

greengreyblue · 09/06/2025 16:43

Figcherry · 09/06/2025 16:41

It does sound personal but not sure what you can do.
I think as it's so late in the year i would concentrate on getting another teacher to do his phonics.
You may have to frame it that there is a personality clash and your ds will do better with another teacher.

When my ds was 7 his teacher moved him down a spelling group, 2 days after we'd had dd so as you can imagine it was chaos at home and his teacher absolutely knew we had a newborn. She refused to make allowances.

That would be based on his ability. Teachers want chn to succeed so if he was struggling ( for whatever reason) why would you keep giving him difficult spellings?

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:44

Hankunamatata · 09/06/2025 16:37

Honestly I think your massively over invested the fact you list his 6 words for speaking part etc. Its like your now looking for things to complain about. You wanted him acknowledge when it was done you take it as an insult.

Id wait it out. If your worried - tutor over the summer with something like word wasp book. Review situation once he is with new teacher.

Perhaps you dc doesnt like his current teacher and isn't cooperating with reading at school.

Thank you - you're right, I am hugely over-invested and it has been extremely stressful.

I obviously know his line was six words because I helped him learn it. But, yeah, I did check if I was unreasonably paranoid - I checked that he spent less time on stage than anyone else, I checked that he was the only child who didn't get a song on stage and I checked that he was the only child not to bow on stage because I like being certain of things before I make an accusation. I didn't do it to look for a problem, I did it to try and prove to myself that there wasn't a problem.

He has a private tutor - the aim was to boost his reading level. The private tutor, and the third-party assessor, say his reading level is above where it should be. We've been pulling our hair out for months now trying to improve his reading, phonics, maths, etc - and everyone we've spoken to, apart from this one teacher, think he's fine.

I took it as an insult that he went from never having a sticker to getting four stickers in one day and then back to no stickers since - it doesn't feel like "I recognise he's feeling a bad way, I'll try to make it better", it feels like "have a sticker and shut up".

I agree that it sounds like he's a badly behaved child - why else would she have an issue. But she's said explicitly that he's very well behaved and there has never, ever been any issue. Other parents comment the same thing. Every other member of staff says he's well behaved. If he's badly behaved and she's telling us explicitly that he's not then that's a problem too.

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Labiabella · 09/06/2025 16:45

I'm struggling to understand why she would show such obvious dislike to a 5 year old child.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:45

greengreyblue · 09/06/2025 16:43

That would be based on his ability. Teachers want chn to succeed so if he was struggling ( for whatever reason) why would you keep giving him difficult spellings?

Exactly

The teacher won’t have it in for this little boy and sabotaging his progress.

It is quite telling the OP even thinks this

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:46

Labiabella · 09/06/2025 16:45

I'm struggling to understand why she would show such obvious dislike to a 5 year old child.

Oh she hasn’t

this is from the mouth of a 5 year old at the end of the school day

Beryls · 09/06/2025 16:46

You're taking the word of your 5 year old that his teacher told him 'so and so' was more clever than him, that she thinks he's stupid and you think she'll purposely mark him down in the phonics screening test because she doesn't like him? She's also going to tell his next teacher that he's thick? You seem very paranoid.

Christ I'm so glad I left teaching.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:47

The GP referred to the school nurse who spoke to the teacher.

come again?

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:47

Beryls · 09/06/2025 16:46

You're taking the word of your 5 year old that his teacher told him 'so and so' was more clever than him, that she thinks he's stupid and you think she'll purposely mark him down in the phonics screening test because she doesn't like him? She's also going to tell his next teacher that he's thick? You seem very paranoid.

Christ I'm so glad I left teaching.

I’m not a teacher but threads like this
make me so glad I’m not!!

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:48

Every other member of staff says he's well behaved.

he is 5 and in reception

how many other members of staff does he interact with?

Labiabella · 09/06/2025 16:50

@Beryls I left teaching for similar reasons.
I'm sorry to say but some of these issues (nativity lines and apparently knowing more about reading ability than teachers) would have us lot rolling our eyes in the staffroom and wondering why the hell we bother.

pimplebum · 09/06/2025 16:50

Who cares what he gets in his phonic assessment ?? Completely unimportant
“ test” employers do nit ask for it at interview

it matters not a jot what she says in handing over to new teacher , new teacher will make their own opinions and assessments

as for the unkindness on the school trip that is concerning as was the assembly but there are just 7 weeks left with this teacher

very concerning that you think it could be to do with facial DIFFERENCE ( as it now known - not disfigurement) but I’d be horrified if a teacher treated a child like this because of that I just can’t believe that is the case

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:50

greengreyblue · 09/06/2025 16:40

Oh my goodness that sounds worrying. As for the nativity, it can be hard to divide parts up equally. At my school we try to accommodate requests but can’t always. Speaking is not superior to acting, singing etc. I’m a HLTA in yr1 and 2 and sometimes see disgruntled parents who misunderstand or are told incorrect information by their child which they believe. But, I don’t know why a teacher would want a child to be lower than they are capable of, after all it affects the data. Each child that fails the phonics screen is a percentage of the class so she would want them all the pass. I would raise this issue with the teacher. Book a meeting and ask her to explain what she perceives to be his reading difficulty. Then reveal your private assessment. I would make it clear that you want him to go forward into year 2 enthusiastically and with confidence. If the meeting is not fully reassuring I would be making an appointment with the headteacher.

Thank you.

I appreciate the difficulty with dividing things up, having been a teacher too. I've tried really hard to only consider what I know to be true. There weren't acting or singing parts. One child had a one-verse solo but all other parts had all the children singing and doing exactly the same actions. We were asked to submit online whether our child wanted a speaking or non-speaking part. Whether they had a speaking part or not didn't change their singing/dancing. The group of parts (shepherds, angels, etc) came up altogether and some said a line and some didn't. If it were just the line length, or being at the back, or being the only one without a song on stage, or being the only one without doing a bow then it'd be fine and I'd brush it off - but all of these seems like too much of a coincidence.

Thank you for your advice. At parents' evening she just brushed us off and said she's moving him up now and maybe his dyspraxia is the problem - no specific issue (i.e. knowing the sounds or blending or whathaveyou).

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OnLockdown · 09/06/2025 16:50

I'd complain. If you don't advocate for your son, who is going to?

I've brought up a lot less and I don't give a shit if I'm that parent.

Bushmillsbabe · 09/06/2025 16:50

Reading assessment isnt only their ability to read, it's their ability to remember, to predict what happens next, to understand why the characters are doing what they are doing etc. My 5 year old reads chapter books at home, but still very mid level at school, and when asked why, they said her actual reading ability is good but her comprehension isn't as good, so that's why she hasn't moved up, is that sane for your son maybe.

In terms of the dyspraxia, did you ask GP for a referral to OT? You don't need school to be involved in this at the assessment stage, although hopefully they would put in place recommendations if needed.

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:54

Bushmillsbabe · 09/06/2025 16:50

Reading assessment isnt only their ability to read, it's their ability to remember, to predict what happens next, to understand why the characters are doing what they are doing etc. My 5 year old reads chapter books at home, but still very mid level at school, and when asked why, they said her actual reading ability is good but her comprehension isn't as good, so that's why she hasn't moved up, is that sane for your son maybe.

In terms of the dyspraxia, did you ask GP for a referral to OT? You don't need school to be involved in this at the assessment stage, although hopefully they would put in place recommendations if needed.

Thank you - yes, comprehension was covered in the private assessments (as a distinct part commented on) and he scored highly on that as well. The teacher couldn't tell us what he wasn't doing well enough when we asked - just that she would move his book band up.

The GP said the waiting list for an OT is long so the most efficient thing is to refer through the school nurse because they get stronger evidence for a quick referral and the school can implement a plan immediately instead of waiting for an EHCP. The teacher told us explicitly that she sees all the same things we see at home and then told the school nurse that she sees no symptoms at all.

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ByCyanMoose · 09/06/2025 16:55

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:46

Oh she hasn’t

this is from the mouth of a 5 year old at the end of the school day

Yes, never ever believe anything a child says about an adult. This is definitely how we prevent abuse.

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:56

Labiabella · 09/06/2025 16:50

@Beryls I left teaching for similar reasons.
I'm sorry to say but some of these issues (nativity lines and apparently knowing more about reading ability than teachers) would have us lot rolling our eyes in the staffroom and wondering why the hell we bother.

This is the problem though, isn't it? DH is a teacher and I was a teacher - we dealt with more than a fair share of baseless and ridiculous complaints. And yet, because of those parents, when I have clear evidence of a huge amount, I'll get laughed at in the staff room because of the parts I don't have conclusive proof of.

So, what can I do when another parent tells me that the teacher insulted my child behind their back? What can I do when the teacher lies to my face or to the school nurse (because she told us two completely opposing things)?

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Genevieva · 09/06/2025 16:56

Will it resolve itself with a new teacher at the start of the new academic year?

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