Finding smoking a really sad thing to do?

[ClaudiaAndHerFringe]

Unreasonable or not? I don't get it, and I feel sorry for people outside getting a fix in the rain, it just looks a bit sad really.

I think smokers (thankfully there are far fewer of them these days) don't realise how much misery they cause some people around them. I've got asthma (I've never smoked) and even outdoors from several feet away it causes me to feel really very unwell. I've often wondered if I'm actually allergic to it. I've got an acute sense of smell, and can tell if someone is smoking from quite a distance. The smell is so disgusting to me it makes me nauseous.
Also, tobacco pickers are dreadfully exploited. The crops are heavily sprayed with pesticides and the tobacco industry is very unethical generally. There's just nothing good about it at all.

Why do people say it looks cool. It really doesn't and never did. Marketing of cigarettes was based on 4 things. It made you manly and slightly edgy, Malborough Man (dead from lung cancer), it was a break from routine and gave you 'me time' Silk Cut
It made you look cool, and kept you slim, Silk Cut and slim long menthol cigarettes aimed at women and the final strategy was it was a social aspect to share and look sophisticated, Benson and Hedges and sophisticated Dunlop.
They stopped these adverts 30 to 40 years ago but it is still very much ingrained in our pysici. Shows how powerful the industry was and is.

There was one really disastrous cigarette ad in the early 60s. Showed a man walking alone around a deserted city at night,smoking. The slogan was “you’re never alone with a Strand”(the brand of cigarette). Nobody wanted to be associated with a lonely friendless man!

I remember it. Times have changed and now nobody wants to be with anybody anymore so it might work better now. Maybe, you're always alone when smoking a CO vid, that's if you can find anywhere legally to smoke it.😂

Someone I worked with who had her children in early 70s in Ireland has a picture on the maternity ward holding her baby with the Doctor standing next to the bed smoking. 😮never heard this since, but have heard of doctors doing rounds or seeing patients whilst smoking in the 70s.

I judge heavy drinkers as well, but the point you are missing is that if someone next to you has just one cigarette it smells awful and can affect your breathing. If someone next to you has just one drink how does that affect you?

Besides, all this whataboutery is irrelevant. We are talking about smoking here.

Whatabouterty:)

I still don't mind people smoking. It's up to them.

I remember being very very small and being at the doctors with dm. He had a tin ashtray on his desk, and lit up during the chats. Windows firmly shut!!

He was incredibly old. Dm said he had fought in the war so could do what he liked.

“Sweetheart”? Let me add patronising to the list of things I prefer to avoid.

because the pp said something so naive that she must be very young

'I would rather spend my time with a person who was kind, honest and a smoker than someone who was judgmental, superior and a none smoker.'

You think I'm patronising? Sweetheart, you should have heard the years and years of patronising and condescending remarks I got as a non-smoker.

That pp was me. I absolutely stand by it and no, I’m definitely not young at all . And if smokers were so very dreadful to you why would you lower yourself to their level? And yes “sweetheart” is incredibly patronising.

I remember the misery as a child being trapped in enclosed environments full of smoke because both my parents smoked - cars with two doors, so no windows in the back to open and the windows in the front were closed, smoking carriages in trains, smoking in the house.

I grew up hating the smell of it.

Then hearing my mum coughing her horrible smokers cough in the audience at school productions. Then later seeing her shuffle around the house with her fags in one hand and inhaler in the other, and hearing her use her nebuliser at night.

it's a horrible, horrible addiction that is horrible to witness when the consequences affect the addict. It's a long slow death with many admissions to hospital.

Smokers think it won't happen to them, and some are lucky. Most aren't.

Or a hospice in the midlands

I’m dating a guy who smokes and as much as it pains me to say it, he looks unbearably cool and sexy when he smokes. It’s a disgusting habit, so why do I find it so hot?

Love is blind... There's nothing sexy about smoker's breath and clothes smelling like an old ashtray.

My friend’s late father was a tv and video repair man. He instantly knew the problem when a smoking household said their video died. Opened it up and the tar was on electronics which attracts dust as it sticks onto the tar .

If you know smokers, their televisions etc don’t last as long as non smokers

I had an Uncle who died 40 years ago of throat cancer when he was 44. He was the youngest of my Dad's siblings and the closest in age to my Dad. It upset my Dad greatly even though he never said.

Oh, he’s a casual smoker so his clothes don’t smell of it. And he vapes too so has fruity breath rather than smoker’s breath!

In any case, it’s ridiculously unhealthy and I hope he can quit fully at some point.

Still think he looks hot when he smokes though 🤦‍♀️

"Still think he looks hot when he smokes though 🤦‍♀️"

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Sounds REALLY sexy 😂

It’s incredibly sexy, but the question is WHY. It makes no sense whatsoever. It’s like finding drink driving or high cholesterol sexy. It’s probably something to do with old films and hot actors depicted smoking in sexy/romantic scenes. But who knows.

Agree with you @ClaudiaAndHerFringe I think smokers all look like Wayne and Waynetta Slob. Same with vaping. Just looks like someone on their way to get a drug fix, with bad teeth due to their meth use.

Were you brought up deep in the 'cigarettes are sexy' marketing era?

Most of the people I see smoking now are hanging around the local bus station so it's not exactly an aspirational look for me

Does smoking make people too lazy to put their litter in the bin, - i hate looking at those disfigured photos on fag packets that litter the streets, and fag butts everywhere