Finding smoking a really sad thing to do?

[ClaudiaAndHerFringe]

Unreasonable or not? I don't get it, and I feel sorry for people outside getting a fix in the rain, it just looks a bit sad really.

I think people who judge other people are sad.

Nothing cool.about going through chemo from lung cancer caused by smoking. And people who say it doesn't affect you if other people smoke, l have watched my dad die too young after years of a disability caused by smoking and a mum go through the trauma of lung cancer so it has affected me a lot.
Hate it with a passion.

Actually smoking ON underground trains had been banned from earlier in the 80s, around 1984. But it was still allowed in stations. That was what changed after Kings Cross. It took longer for it to be fully banned from all overground trains nationally.

Smoking for me is associated with the memory of younger, freer-feeling years. I fully admit it's tinged with nostalgia for my 20s, and the 90s. I wouldn't want to start again though.

It was also an excellent excuse to go outside alone to fart 💨

I was just referring to my local rail network in my post. I had rarely if ever used trains outside that at the time. All the trains were overground, and until that day the third carriage was the smokers' one. Different times.

Maybe it wasn't clear in my post that I wasn't referring to London when I mentioned my local rail network. I lived in NW England at the time, but as I said, it was as an immediate, direct response to the KC fire that the no smoking policy was tightened to apply to all carriages and underground.

*underground stations obviously.

@UnctuousUnicorns yeah that makes sense now. I think the response nationally was more piecemeal until the legislation came in properly and it took a while before it was comprehensively banned. I remember smoking by the sliding window in the doors of Intercity trains between Manc and London when I was at Uni up there, which was early 90s.

Just as well you didn't lean out of the window to do so.#Vyvyan 😅

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Sounds good but in reality, we all judge.

Everyone judges.

Perhaps.

But I don't think everyone judging starts a thread designed to judge other people and unvite others to judge is what everyone would do is it?

Me too!
I still try to get a good whiff if I pass someone smoking in the street!

true

I would rather spend my time with a person who was kind, honest and a smoker than someone who was judgmental, superior and a none smoker.
So many of these threads recently. It’s frankly depressing that some people feel the need to use other people’s choice of car, beauty treatment or smoking habit to feel better about themselves.

You don't look cool smoking. Nobody does.

Do you drink alcohol?

We just came home from a weekend away, DH is drinking a glass of wine to wind down, I’m having a cigarette. Different poison but same objective: a nice way to relax. As long as it is in moderation 🤷🏻‍♀️

Alcohol tastes nice. Cigs don’t.

That poster's post made me laugh. It almost sounded like a parody. Just because you smoke doesn't mean you're Kate Moss, love. You just smell like her circa 1995.

Until you get the diagnosis

Sweetheart, before the the smoking ban came on into action, all you met were judgemental, superior smokers! Though practically everyone smoked, they all thought of themselves as an elite minority, a band of brothers living on the edge of life, dare-devils. The self-delusion was extraordinary. and for what? Dried leaves in a little roll of paper that you light and stick in your mouth!

There is a lot of vitriol for smokers. About how dumb they are, but what about the drinkers? The ones risking theirs and others lives drink driving? Starting fights after one too many? Vomiting over pavements for early morning shoppers to dodge, alcohol related diseases.

I don't see the aisles in the supermarkets selling booze warning of the dangers of drink and early death. And how it changes you, after a few glasses or less. Smokers at least stay the same.

Yes I judge excessive drinkers as well. One girl DS went to school with was just obsessed with drinking and that's what she did all weekend. Her A-levels were crap and now she has a crap job. I blame her parents for being too lax with alcohol.

I quit using will power and a paper calendar aged 29 so I am smug....yes I feel sorry for people who can't stop as it's 2-6 weeks of grumpiness then done.

DM has smoked all her life and can't walk without getting pain in her calves due to poor circulation.

I believe there is more research coming out on alcohol so this may change. Its not as safe as thought regardless of getting drunk.