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To ask if boys can wear coloured gingham school shorts?

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Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 07:17

DS starting school in September. I’ve never liked the grey boys’ school shorts. I think they’re horrible.

Could a boy wear the shorts version of the summer dresses in the warmer months? The ones like this:
https://direct.asda.com/george/school/shorts/light-blue-girls-gingham-longer-length-school-shorts/G008057152,default,pd.html?redirectFromInt=1&cmpid=ppc--geor-------_-dskwid-_dm&utm_campaign=pla:Fashion-School-_Performance_Max&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17501196607&gbraid=0AAAAADt8Wcm1oMWVYoBrMZRAaJmY4OxHM&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgIXCBhDBARIsAELC9ZgYG9pdeZibdgD76_xniRBLDqnyyvZArL9DdLA7VsYiWE5zGC1CWE0aAkIFEALw_wcB

The little boys round here wear a lot of brightly coloured patterned leggings.

Why couldn’t they were these shorts? Are they obviously girly? Would people bully him or think we were weird? I just think they’re nicer.

Light Blue Girls Gingham Longer Length School Shorts | School | George at ASDA

• Shorts • Cotton rich • 2 side slip pockets • 2 side patch pockets • Pull on. Shop from our latest range in School.

https://direct.asda.com/george/school/shorts/light-blue-girls-gingham-longer-length-school-shorts/G008057152,default,pd.html?cmpid=ppc-_-geor-_--_--_--_-dskwid-_dm&gad_campaignid=17501196607&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADt8Wcm1oMWVYoBrMZRAaJmY4OxHM&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgIXCBhDBARIsAELC9ZgYG9pdeZibdgD76_xniRBLDqnyyvZArL9DdLA7VsYiWE5zGC1CWE0aAkIFEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&redirectFromInt=1

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Calliopespa · 07/06/2025 11:41

Darkgreendarkbark · 07/06/2025 11:30

I think in general, this thread has quickly drifted into people arguing at cross-purposes.

It's not a thread asking "In general, is it sexist and bigoted that women can wear trousers but men can't wear dresses".

It's a thread about whether, when your four year old is starting school, it's a wise use of your time, focus and social and political capital to ask the school if he can wear a non-uniform item that he has expressed absolutely no interest in. And whether that is in the best interests of the child.

That’s exactly right.

But it’s one of those issues where people hover, ready to haul the topic onto familiar battlegrounds.

I think op actually wants her DS in softer, more toddler-like clothing but made the “mistake” of referencing what the girls get to wear.

Coolcalmmoments · 07/06/2025 11:42

TheNightingalesStarling · 07/06/2025 08:16

My DDs are at Secondary. The head banned non uniform days a few years ago as the statistics showed that those on FSM were more likely to have an unauthorised absence or be "ill" on those days.

I am not in the least bit surprised. I'm all for school uniform at every stage with the exception of reception years. It's OK for posters who spout children should be allowed to be creative & embrace self expression. This totally discards the feelings of children with parents who can't afford the outfits which encompass creativity & self expression. Admittedly uniforms can be expensive. The difference is most schools with a uniform poicy have a hand in option where children have all too soon outgrown the clothes which can then be worn by others.If I was the head of a school the uniform would be compulsory every day therefore putting an end to upset children staying away from school on non uniform day.

Needspaceforlego · 07/06/2025 12:13

@TheCatsTongue that's exactly what I was getting at. Nobody wants to stand out, men already know what the uniform is so have no need to discuss it. Women have more options so discuss what the dress code will be for the occasion.

So back to the thread why would anyone want to put their little kid into clothes that just don't match the uniform?
Uniform is there to make life easy, not so your kid can stand out.

The tiny kids might not notice or care but there is no guarantee that someone won't remember a few years down the line, "remember you wore girls' shorts"

Another2Cats · 07/06/2025 12:25

UnctuousUnicorns · 07/06/2025 11:26

Where did you get that photo of my dad and Uncle John?! 🤷‍♀️ 😅

Are they seriously related to you?

The photo came from a Twitter (now X) account I follow who posts historic photos, generally from the 20th century.

Is that really your dad?

https://x.com/mongsley/status/1930989055346393252

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/gallery/old-liverpool-gets-splash-colour-6646805

I believe the photo is originally from the Liverpool Echo (near the bottom of the page)

And also as a stock photo on this website:

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-children-playing-july-1954-adventure-playground-liverpool-20318674.html

Children Playing July 1954 Adventure playground Liverpool Stock Photo - Alamy

Download this stock image: Children Playing July 1954 Adventure playground Liverpool - B51GJX from Alamy's library of millions of high resolution stock photos, illustrations and vectors.

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-children-playing-july-1954-adventure-playground-liverpool-20318674.html

RampantIvy · 07/06/2025 12:33

Calliopespa · 07/06/2025 11:41

That’s exactly right.

But it’s one of those issues where people hover, ready to haul the topic onto familiar battlegrounds.

I think op actually wants her DS in softer, more toddler-like clothing but made the “mistake” of referencing what the girls get to wear.

Yes. They have their own agenda.

We don't live in a vacuum, and people are influenced by all sorts of things - peer pressure, TV, radio, social media, by people in authority etc.

Those people promoting individuality need to read the room. In many cases it is brilliant, but in many cases it is just inappropriate for the occasion.

All the OP needs to do is ask the school, not mumsnet. Although, judging from the reaction on here, I think she realises by now that she will get a similar reaction from other parents in RL.

Notsuchafattynow · 07/06/2025 13:41

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 08:24

It was just a thought! Anyway we’re off to swimming.

Have you dressed him in a girls cozzie for that?

AnnieKenneyfanclub · 07/06/2025 14:07

Notyourfaultbutmine · 06/06/2025 07:25

You'd need to check the schools uniform policy - they usually stipulate colours, and when summer v winter uniform should be worn.
Also don't make him the one boy that's different - like the boy whose mum put him in the school cardigan instead of sweatshirt and all the other boys told him he was wearing girls clothes (at my DCs primary)

Was this my son I wonder? He refused point blank to wear anything else - I bought the jumpers and he had them at home in the cupboard and would not even try them on ( was prompted to try on a regular basis) but stuck with his big sisters cast off all the way through KS1… and yes the boys did say something - and DS ignored them and carried on. Some kids do choose to be different - and I tried everything to try and get DS into the expected uniform…

Calliopespa · 07/06/2025 14:12

AnnieKenneyfanclub · 07/06/2025 14:07

Was this my son I wonder? He refused point blank to wear anything else - I bought the jumpers and he had them at home in the cupboard and would not even try them on ( was prompted to try on a regular basis) but stuck with his big sisters cast off all the way through KS1… and yes the boys did say something - and DS ignored them and carried on. Some kids do choose to be different - and I tried everything to try and get DS into the expected uniform…

When children choose to be different with full awareness of what might get said, and provided it’s within the rules, I don’t see a problem.

Dumbdog · 07/06/2025 14:34

Darkgreendarkbark · 07/06/2025 11:34

I suspect, at age 4, the only thing that will happen is that the boy eventually asks for grey shorts like his friends have. Meanwhile, all the other mums are quietly thinking 🤨 "guess someone really wanted a girl".

It’s ok, I got both. 🥳

Although you do see how massively illogical it is to snarkily assume I secretly wanted a girl when I’ve been very clear I don’t believe in all the gender bullshit that accompanied wanting one sex or the other?

Nah, probably can’t follow logic.

Darkgreendarkbark · 07/06/2025 14:35

Dumbdog · 07/06/2025 14:34

It’s ok, I got both. 🥳

Although you do see how massively illogical it is to snarkily assume I secretly wanted a girl when I’ve been very clear I don’t believe in all the gender bullshit that accompanied wanting one sex or the other?

Nah, probably can’t follow logic.

That's an incredibly rude remark.

And as I'm not aware of you having sent your son to school in gingham shorts, I'm not sure why you think my post referred to you.

Apology welcome.

Dumbdog · 07/06/2025 14:37

Darkgreendarkbark · 07/06/2025 14:35

That's an incredibly rude remark.

And as I'm not aware of you having sent your son to school in gingham shorts, I'm not sure why you think my post referred to you.

Apology welcome.

because you replied to another poster who was directly referring me.

again, logic trail…

Darkgreendarkbark · 07/06/2025 14:37

And if you bring up your children to speak to people in that way @Dumbdog in the context of a civil disagreement, I think they will have bigger problems than gingham shorts.

Annascaul · 07/06/2025 14:39

Dumbdog · 07/06/2025 14:34

It’s ok, I got both. 🥳

Although you do see how massively illogical it is to snarkily assume I secretly wanted a girl when I’ve been very clear I don’t believe in all the gender bullshit that accompanied wanting one sex or the other?

Nah, probably can’t follow logic.

You seem to have hijacked the thread so thoroughly, you assume every response is actually being made to you personally.
Awkward 😬

Dumbdog · 07/06/2025 14:41

Annascaul · 07/06/2025 14:39

You seem to have hijacked the thread so thoroughly, you assume every response is actually being made to you personally.
Awkward 😬

I mean, that literally was a post in response to one directed at me.

and so is this one.

Dumbdog · 07/06/2025 14:42

Darkgreendarkbark · 07/06/2025 14:37

And if you bring up your children to speak to people in that way @Dumbdog in the context of a civil disagreement, I think they will have bigger problems than gingham shorts.

🤣

They’ll be right.

Annascaul · 07/06/2025 14:42

Maybe let op have her thread back now…

RampantIvy · 07/06/2025 14:54

Some people just like to have the last word don't they.

Yes, you are right @Annascaul

sarah419 · 07/06/2025 15:14

that would be an email to the school - just make sure you spell check for grammatical errors so they don’t call you back to school.

Calliopespa · 07/06/2025 16:36

BreatheAndFocus · 07/06/2025 16:26

Someone tell Next these gingham shorts aren’t for “proper boys” 😂

https://www.next.co.uk/style/su071958/ag3804?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=10437594385&gbraid=0AAAAADm_5UX2XRcWdtjlCXBoMi92dHGlt&gclid=CjwKCAjwo4rCBhAbEiwAxhJlCTIEKlM1fEw42WhiI-GmGq1hFSkKDcq2PXPnP-zCq98nXJ0DMXMrOxoCcHAQAvD_BwE#AG3804

And that anyone dressing their son in them obviously wanted a boy 🙄 FFS, the regressive sexism here is shocking. I reckon a lot of the ‘he’ll get bullied’ is an excuse for some people to maintain their sexist beliefs (“Well, of course, I would put him in gingham, Beth, but the other children will bully him, you see”).

They are fine for toddlers . They are also navy not a baby/pastel blue and have a bolder gingham - all of which makes a difference. Even then they only go up to a size 6 . I think most of us think op’s shorts are fine for very little boys.

Sadforcavtoo · 07/06/2025 16:40

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 07:23

Do you think he would be bullied? Why?

Not to be mean but the other boys would probably make comments because that’s what the girls wear

BreatheAndFocus · 07/06/2025 17:07

Calliopespa · 07/06/2025 16:36

They are fine for toddlers . They are also navy not a baby/pastel blue and have a bolder gingham - all of which makes a difference. Even then they only go up to a size 6 . I think most of us think op’s shorts are fine for very little boys.

Those shorts go up to age 7. The OP’s son is 5. The concern here all seems to stem from the mention of ‘girls’. If the school shorts had been introduced as ‘boys shorts’ people wouldn’t have gone off on such mad, regressive rants. Not a proper boy, being one of the sexist and homophobic comments.

Annascaul · 07/06/2025 17:24

BreatheAndFocus · 07/06/2025 17:07

Those shorts go up to age 7. The OP’s son is 5. The concern here all seems to stem from the mention of ‘girls’. If the school shorts had been introduced as ‘boys shorts’ people wouldn’t have gone off on such mad, regressive rants. Not a proper boy, being one of the sexist and homophobic comments.

Edited

If they’d been advertised as boy’s shorts, maybe op’s ds wouldn’t have been the only boy in the school wearing them?

MyDeftDuck · 07/06/2025 18:19

At first glance I thought they were a pair of men’s boxers………put your boy in them by all means but prepare for him to be bullied relentlessly!

Vynalbob · 07/06/2025 18:24

There maybe a point when he wants to wear something specific and you'll obviously find out if it will be allowed. However, especially at the start, it's not a fashion show and kids tend not to want to be pushed away (othered if you like) at such a young age. My view let your child take the lead (without nudging for or against) usually kids are not bothered as infants. Obviously there's no uniform days that are anything goes and often dress up boxes for the very young so they have options other than trying to alter the school's uniform rules.

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