To ask what you think of Meghan and Harry's "bump dance" video?

[comeandhaveteawithme]

To mark Lilibet's 4th birthday, they've uploaded this video. I think it's cute and fun but the usual haters are out in force.

She clearly has a monitor on under her dress but people are claiming it's a pillow, and people are also claiming it's not possible to dance like that while heavily pregnant (it totally is, if you're in good shape)

Also the horrible comments from men saying she must have got a lot of practice in, giving lap dances on yachts

Don't really know what people's problem is with these two tbh.

They're desperate for fame but look like fucking idiots - like most things they do, they look cringe at best ... but sadly it's really just them fucking humiliating themselves .... for the whole world to see ... god what pricks!

Ever heard of sarcasm? I was mimicking your juvenile posts. I don’t support any of the royals, as I said countless time I would happily get rid of them. I’m not keen on Sarah Ferguson but I don’t hate anyone I don’t know and I can’t get worked up over a joyful pregnant dance by two people who want to celebrate a lovely moment. I don’t waste my energy scrolling through rubbish about Meghan. I think the level of hatred and bile on here is unhealthy and sad to see and think it says a lot about a person. End of. 😉

If you "don't waste (your) energy scrolling through rubbish about Meghan" why are you on this thread? and why do you keep coming back to it and being mean to EvieBB? Just leave the thread if it doesn't interest you. No need to keep picking holes in others who actually are interested in threads about M&H and don't see their interest in the thread as rubbish.

It does interest me. It actually fascinates me. And at one point it was in trending so I clicked on it. Hope that is okay with you.

Of course it's fine. I just don't really understand what you meant by "I don’t waste my energy scrolling through rubbish about Meghan". I assumed you meant you didn't waste energy on threads like this, which is obviously confusing given you are spending time on this thread. But I think I've misunderstood you. Can you explain what you meant by "I don’t waste my energy scrolling through rubbish about Meghan" to help me understand?

On X and Facebook and Tick Tok and all the other forms of SM and media. Once you look at one reel you are constantly being shown more. I never see anything about M and H and only saw this video on here. I don’t look for it and I don’t click on it. Is that easy for you to understand? Might be best to step away from that snake pit.

yep she is Catherine, princess of wales.
not princess catherine

Oh I see. You are happy to scroll mumsnet threads about Meghan, comment on them, contribute to them and revisit them multiple times. But you prefer not to engage with other forms of social media. And you are happy to click on videos on here, but not on other forms of social media. Fair enough. Each to their own I guess.

😂 Thanks for your permission.

Eh? What do you mean about permission? I didn't understand what you meant, you've explained. I'm not in a position, and nor do I want, to 'give permission' to anyone for anything. How strange.

I think it was unwise. My first thought isn't about M and H - it's the potential impact all these odd, poorly thought out and rushed decisions will have on their children. It's always difficult for the children of minor Royals to find their way in the world. At least Zara, Peter, Louise, James have the support of the RF machine to guide them into a suitable career. The Sussex children live in a weird bubble of security, wealth, a revolving door of paid help and advisors but absolutely no relatives in their lives other than Doria. The constant need for 'privacy' makes me think these children don't have much if a normal life at all. Their parents are making lots of odd decisions - in what way is this helping the children ?

It's not juvenile to point out abuse for goodness sake. Grow up and open your eyes. If she wants to dance, twerk and raise her dress while gyrating around provocatively that's absolutely fine (it would be joyful if it was a private moment) but don't post it to the world and think you can carry on calling yourself a Duchess. It's vulgar and not becoming of somebody with a royal title. I've no idea what she was thinking. Millions of people agree with me and like me were embarrassed watching it. Tell me, if she left the RF to avoid media scrutiny why is she continually courting the media?
Please also explain, if she hates the RF so much why is she clinging on to a title? If that was me, I'd ditch the title asap but I guess not everyone has integrity.
You completely misunderstood the so called haters. It's not hateful to point out abuse. People are not full of bile when they highlight abuse. It means they are using their brain, insight and experience to call someone out on their BS. Having lived with a Narcissist for over a decade I know the signs. I can relate to Harry and how he transformed from happy go lucky to a shell of his former self. Thankfully I managed to get out and am very happily married with 2 wonderful children....but that experience means that I am passionate about pointing out NPD when I see it and seeing people support an abuser makes me want to vomit. Please give your head a wobble. End of 🤣😉😉(meaning I no longer wish to continue communicating with you!)

I am very sorry about what you went through EvieBB

Really glad to hear that you are in a better and happier situation now.

With all respect to you, I don’t think that any of us are sufficiently qualified to make diagnoses over the internet. And if we were sufficiently qualified, we would definitely not be choosing to do that.

A lot of film snippets and videos that appear in the press about Harry and Meghan are chosen to show them in as miserable light as possible because of the current media bias against them. Journalists for example are always pairing fabricated stories about Meghan being controlling, alongside a photo of her simply clutching Harry’s arm to steady herself when she is in high heels. That sort of thing is repeated all of the time, until people start believing the stories.

Who knows what Harry’s state of mind is? None of us can see inside his head. He could well be feeling intense sadness at his rejection by his family as he perceives it.

It is hard to leave everything that you have known and move your entire life to another country. So I don’t think we should be making assumptions about his emotional equilibrium.

Yes I think you owe me an apology for being mean to me.

She is known by both
No need to be pedantic

Just seen your newest post. Thank you

Actually her title is The Princess Of Wales.

I appreciate your perspective and I totally saw it in the way you did in the beginning as I'm wary of media spin. When they first left the RF I thought "good for you". I'd hate the press intrusion also and didn't blame them for leaving. However the Oprah interview for me was a game changer. The information was coming straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. I was aghast at the sheer level of provable and obvious lies. It showed all of us with any common sense that we were witnessing a compulsive liar
I was so disappointed as up until that point she seemed so lovely, genuine and compassionate. It was such a shame as they could've done so much good. As it is I think it is fair and entirely reasonable to make assumptions based on observable behavior.

I understand your pov too but genuinely don’t understand how anyone objective can say that what M & H say are all provable lies when the “other side” of the story is protected by the RF. We have no idea about the context in which their initial falling out arose.

I hope I have common sense and I think it is sensible to assume that there are flaws on both sides of the rift and both sides are using PR teams to place themselves in the most favourable light possible. But the RF’s PR team is winning the battle because they have endless resources, wife reaching soft power, and global influence. It’s basically David against Goliath.

The PR person who commented in Australia on very conveniently timed leaks about alleged workplace bullying by Meghan for example, a few days prior to the Oprah interview, is now working for Earthshott fhs!
There really is a very strategic element to the news campaign against M & H if you ask me!

And Oprah is a shrewd and experienced operator who is also out there to make money, That interview also falls under those parameters. It was presumably edited according to her production company’s instructions?

Lastly, anyone with a background in psychology knows that the same two people can interpret situations in very different ways, depending on their previous experience?

For example, if you had experienced a lot of racism in your life as many mixed race people do (see film about Obama’s life called Barry in which he suffered double prejudice from some members of both the black and white communities surrounding him) then you might be ultra- ultra- sensitive to any talk about the colour of your baby’s skin and interpret that as racist, because that is all you have experienced to date, and you didn’t hear any other discussion about the child’s potential characteristics, except that focusing on his skin colour. That wouldn’t be a lie as it was that person’s genuine interpretation. Even if the chatter was innocent baby talk or unconsciously racist shall we say.

Talking of unconscious racism and returning to the theme of this thread…

I could argue incidentally, that certain posters are being unconsciously racist when they interpret twerking as being unbecoming of a Duchess, because the dance is very well known in black popular music culture in the USA.

Just because it’s not something often seen in a middle class English white context; doesn’t mean it’s vulgar in its modern form. It’s just different to white English dance culture and has its origins in New Orleans “bounce” dance music which was sometimes performed by men.

And before that it;
“ has a broader origin among other types of dancing found among the African diaspora that derives from Bantu-speaking Africans.

After Hurricane Katrina a new form of twerking was popularised and then that morphed in to the modern form we know now as performed by Miley Cyrus at the MTV awards in 2013.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twerking

Since then it has gained more wide spread acceptance and appeal.

So no one has to like it but at least acknowledge that it’s part of a very popular dance culture in the USA and elsewhere!

Meghan was obviously performing that track with a certain degree of humour too!

Some of the things Meghan has said have actually been proven to have been lies.

For example, she claimed her and Harry got married a few days before the wedding and that the archbishop of Canterbury conducted this pre-wedding ceremony. However, the Archbishop of Canterbury has come out and said this was not true. Of course, he could be lying! But I'd believe him on this issue, over Meghan!

It’s easy to be objective when you simply listen to what they have said

I agree completely with alittlemoreconversation last few posts

with regard to the wedding that could well be confusion on her behalf and not an outright lie

but people who are very invested in this are going to think what they think…they won’t change their minds, they are obviously entitled to their opinions

How can you possible be confused about the day you get married? That would suggest you are not of sound mind. (Not meaning you)

Thanks for the clarification dipsy 😀

no i mean more that as she may have thought that she was married in the private ceremony and the public one was for show as such, I am sure she is well aware she was wrong now 😀

friends of mine had a private wedding and then got ‘married’ in front of family and friends a few weeks later….no one realised that the official ceremony had already taken place. Neither ceremony was religious

and thats british adult guests who have attended british weddings and did not spot the difference

but i am not particularly invested in being right or wrong on this…i can see that it might not have been a lie…just confusion over British (and royal) weddings