Sophie Ellis-Bextor concert. Ugh

[IOnlyWantSexMoneyPowerAndRevenge]

Saw her last week. Good fun. I missed the opportunity to wear my glittery Christmas dress though.

We all know she has legs that go on for days and likes to show them off (so would I if I had them!). At various points during the show she had to bend over (dropped something and so on). Every single time, at least one man wolf whistled. One man started and then others thought it was OK to join in.

I mean, really? They weren't sat near me or I would have said something. It pissed me right off. We were there to sing and dance to a bit of disco and grotty men insist on making their thoughts knoen about how attractive she is. As if anyone cares.

Most of the audience were 50+ which somehow made it even more grim.

Yuk just yuk.

Your post is daft.

Tons of females go to concerts and scream and ogle the performers.

I agree with this.

I don't agree that all women are the same. When I was younger a friend told me on two different nights out that one if she could sleep with any of her friends it would be me and two her and her DH had discussed a threesome and I would be the chosen one.

I'm straight so neither things would have ever happened. I felt really awkward after that. Especially when I saw her DH.

Your friend was wrong to make you uncomfortable. I’d say she wasn’t a friend to do hat as if she knew you at all, she’d have known you would feel awkward. She didn’t read the room as posters are saying people should.

In most cases, it’s men making women feel uncomfortable though. I’ve never had a woman make me feel uncomfortable and I’ve been in gay bars with friends. Women generally communicate much more respectfully.

The fact that your friend made you feel uncomfortable doesn’t take away the fact that it’s usually men making women feel uncomfortable and it’s not acceptable.

It’s whataboutery. ‘What about those terrible women?’ Well it isn’t women usually, but yes, when they fi, it’s still wrong and creepy. But the big issue is men.

She's a big girl. She can wear whatever she likes. Those men were of a previous generation. Hopefully today's to young men are more aware of how to behave.

You are absolutely saying that. Your misogyny is showing.

Like a PP poster replied to me. I also choose men that are respectful and have bought my Son up to be.

I still do think it's strange that the OP started this thread.

It's weird though. I get woman fancying me a lot. I'm 100% straight. I also dress really feminine.

I’m confused by this comment. You seem to have really strange views about bisexual and lesbian women.

Are you suggesting people should automatically know you are straight? And that bisexual/lesbian women should know this because you dress really feminine? Or that it’s weird women find you attractive because you dress really feminine?

Really? You think women don’t fancy women that dress femininely? Some of you ideas are very odd indeed. Are you an older woman with very old fashioned views? Or just very blinkered?

I just find some women with DH flirt with me and I don't encourage it. I'm just really friendly and caring. I'm really happy with DH and not interested.

I'm not old.

Again, this is very confusing. Are you saying married women flirt with you?

Are they flirting or just being friendly in return?
I’m really friendly and chatty with most people, particularly if they are the same way with me and we have things in common.

And what does dressing in a feminine way have to do with anything?

With some of these comments and whataboutery, its ignorance at best, more likely homophobia and misogyny though.

@PhiladelphiaEagles

''In your friends case, if neither man had offered their opinion on her, that would have solved the issue''.

Doesn't that then become similar to the age old ethical philosophical question of 'what if?' In this case could that one approach have led to a life long happy marriage. I'd argue a momentary sensation of discomfort in either party is worth the risk.

I could just about guarantee there is hardly a user of this forum that hasn't looked back and thought 'you know, wish I had taken a chance on letting that other person know how I feel. Wish I had taken that job. Didn't settle for this guy/girl etc'.

I'm of the opinion of encouraging those coming after us to take the chance. Life really is far too bloody short.

Both men could have approached the woman and chatted. Imagine that, a man chatting to a woman he’s interested in without commenting on her looks in the first 2 minutes. Men don’t need to comment on women's looks straight away.

If you approach someone, are chatty, interested, listen etc, you’re interest in them will make itself known. Read the room first to see if a comment on looks would be welcome.

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I'm not in the least bit homophobic especially having a a couple of gay cousins I have a great relationship with. If a man asked me if I 'would care for some male company' I'd be equally shocked & offended. It's basically the offer of sex.

Is she as awful live as she is on the telly? I don't know why but I have a deep deep hatred dislike of the woman!

"I'm not racist. I know a black person." 😂

(Just to clarify - I am not calling you racist, nor homophobic, but trying to 'prove' you're not by saying you have relationships with gay people is not the flex you think it is!)

I didnt interpret it that way at all. I took it at face value. Its literally what people say if they see someone sat in the staff canteen by themselves. "Do you want some company?" Or "Do you care for some company?" ie do you want someone to chat with? Maybe I've been getting offers of sex all these years and not realised.

Nah. Company means company, not sex. Someone is just trying to backtrack,

I'm going to see her on Wednesday.

It was literally suggested this approach & expression is more appropriate as an alternative to less acceptable male flirtatious acts so no backtracking here.

It was literally suggested this approach & expression is more appropriate as an alternative to less acceptable male flirtatious acts so no backtracking here.

But there was nothing to suggest it meant sex...

I certainly read it as a way of asking if it was okay to chat - have a conversation and get to know each other. It was a way of demonstrating a more respectful way of speaking to someone you find attractive without the expectation of sex. .

Hence my confusion as to why it was more shocking than a wolf whistle or inappropriate sexual comment.