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AIBU- pulling someone up on snarky comments.

637 replies

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 07:57

So I work and DH is retired. We have a dog. I work 4 days a week . On the days I work DH walks the dog in the morning and I walk it in the evening. My days off we swap it around.
There is a group of dog walkers that meet in the morning. One man thinks its hilarious to ask if Ive enjoyed my sleep in/ lazy day/ sending DH out while I relax ect.
every single time I see him. 2 years of me just ignoring him / saying I work ect.
I work in a unit that deals with palliative care. Yesterday was a bloody hard day.
So this morning he said it must be nice to laze about on a Sunday and send DH out so I let him have it with both barrels - told him ( in rough terms) what my day consisted of. That I was up and out by 6am. Long drive. The realities of my job.
He was silent. Got home and his wife has watsapped to say Ive upset him !@@.
AIBU to think he deserves it.

OP posts:
Francestein · 02/06/2025 10:04

I love your mate so much for this! I bet Billy Bigballs finds another group of dog walkers with women to harrass. He will be far too embarrassed (outraged) at being called out by a man.

ChateauMargaux · 02/06/2025 10:04

You did not over react. Years of comments have worn you down.

You may be menopausal but oestrogen suppresses our emotions and lots of women come out of oestrogen suppression raging, after years of putting the needs of other people first, keeping the peace, avoiding conflict.

I also watched a TedTalk that I will try to find later which explains that when we react, we are reacting to every time we felt obliged to remain silent, to accept micro aggressions, to be kind, to smile and nod.. when we find our voice, it all comes out and we speak on behalf of all women and all moments of misogyny when we do this.

Stand in your power!! We are with you.

I am sure that any attempt to explain your perspective would simply escalate this ... and of course, we are conditioned to de-escalate, to retreat to a safe space and to internalise our feelings and our hurt.... but this is what I would like to say if I were in your shoes... as I said.. I know how that goes.. and it results in me slinking away after having taken my stance.

Bob.. every time you tell me I am lazy and having a lie in, it annoys me, because you are making assumptions and judging me, every time, I think, I won't say anything, it's not important, just let it go, but every time, you laugh at my expense and I feel powerless to defend myself. You don't diminish or mock Dave, because he is a man. You are out here, marking your territory, making this space slightly inhospitable for me and other women. I could make all sorts of assumptions as to why, to excuse your behaviour and to assume you mean no harm, but it does cause harm, you are flexing your power and showing how little you respect women. I am not sorry for my response yesterday, I am only sorry I didn't put aside my social conditioning to speak before. I can not understand why I am expected to put up with your behaviour but when I responded, you have made this space even more inhospitable for me by involving your wife and by her posting publicly about this. The correct response would have been to reflect on your behaviour, change it and allowing women to feel more afe in this space, not less safe.

But yeah... Stand in your Power. We are with you!

SamDeanCas · 02/06/2025 10:05

Well done op, it fucks me right off when men make bloody stupid comments like this to women, but would never dream of doing it to a man.

Rosscameasdoody · 02/06/2025 10:06

TeachMeSomething · 02/06/2025 09:39

Because she's his wife?

🤣🤣🤣

godmum56 · 02/06/2025 10:07

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 08:03

Thank you. I was slightly worried that my menopausal rage had taken over. DH agrees with you all . She has just put a message on the watsapp group #Be Kind.
Oh the irony 🙄

menopausal rage is not a bad thing 😊

NotjustCo2 · 02/06/2025 10:08

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 08:17

A friend has just replied to her on the chat - basically saying her DH only says shit like this to women, never to him or his husband who also alternate on the dog walks. 🐕.

Love this! Your friend is a man (gasp), so his words count.

Glad you told the boring cunt to shut up.

godmum56 · 02/06/2025 10:11

ChateauMargaux · 02/06/2025 10:04

You did not over react. Years of comments have worn you down.

You may be menopausal but oestrogen suppresses our emotions and lots of women come out of oestrogen suppression raging, after years of putting the needs of other people first, keeping the peace, avoiding conflict.

I also watched a TedTalk that I will try to find later which explains that when we react, we are reacting to every time we felt obliged to remain silent, to accept micro aggressions, to be kind, to smile and nod.. when we find our voice, it all comes out and we speak on behalf of all women and all moments of misogyny when we do this.

Stand in your power!! We are with you.

I am sure that any attempt to explain your perspective would simply escalate this ... and of course, we are conditioned to de-escalate, to retreat to a safe space and to internalise our feelings and our hurt.... but this is what I would like to say if I were in your shoes... as I said.. I know how that goes.. and it results in me slinking away after having taken my stance.

Bob.. every time you tell me I am lazy and having a lie in, it annoys me, because you are making assumptions and judging me, every time, I think, I won't say anything, it's not important, just let it go, but every time, you laugh at my expense and I feel powerless to defend myself. You don't diminish or mock Dave, because he is a man. You are out here, marking your territory, making this space slightly inhospitable for me and other women. I could make all sorts of assumptions as to why, to excuse your behaviour and to assume you mean no harm, but it does cause harm, you are flexing your power and showing how little you respect women. I am not sorry for my response yesterday, I am only sorry I didn't put aside my social conditioning to speak before. I can not understand why I am expected to put up with your behaviour but when I responded, you have made this space even more inhospitable for me by involving your wife and by her posting publicly about this. The correct response would have been to reflect on your behaviour, change it and allowing women to feel more afe in this space, not less safe.

But yeah... Stand in your Power. We are with you!

I was okay with your comment apart from the "speaking for all women" thing.

Mistyglade · 02/06/2025 10:12

Serves him bloody right.

Moonlightexpress · 02/06/2025 10:12

Guavafish1 · 02/06/2025 08:03

I think you over reacted

No. Over reacting would have been to let rip 2 years ago... get some context please. Ops on her last nerve. Good for her for speaking up.

sugarapplelane · 02/06/2025 10:17

Rosscameasdoody · 02/06/2025 10:01

I’d hazard a guess that this poster is regularly subjected to the kind of behaviour they describe, from those in their own life. And have become so used to the disrespectful bullshit that they think it’s the norm - hence the projection. It’s quite sad.

Edited

I agree or the poster is a man and is having a laugh

thepariscrimefiles · 02/06/2025 10:21

So the big 'I am' has got his mummy wife to tell you off? What a prince of a man she is married to.

You weren't being unreasonable. You have put up with his snarky jibes for 2 years and you finally snapped. As for 'be kind', where was his kindness when trying to humiliate you? I'd want to tell his wife to fuck off, but that probably wouldn't be a good idea.

harriethoyle · 02/06/2025 10:21

Good for you. Sounds like his absence from the group for a while is no loss.

Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 02/06/2025 10:24

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 07:57

So I work and DH is retired. We have a dog. I work 4 days a week . On the days I work DH walks the dog in the morning and I walk it in the evening. My days off we swap it around.
There is a group of dog walkers that meet in the morning. One man thinks its hilarious to ask if Ive enjoyed my sleep in/ lazy day/ sending DH out while I relax ect.
every single time I see him. 2 years of me just ignoring him / saying I work ect.
I work in a unit that deals with palliative care. Yesterday was a bloody hard day.
So this morning he said it must be nice to laze about on a Sunday and send DH out so I let him have it with both barrels - told him ( in rough terms) what my day consisted of. That I was up and out by 6am. Long drive. The realities of my job.
He was silent. Got home and his wife has watsapped to say Ive upset him !@@.
AIBU to think he deserves it.

Instead of feeling bad for being a twat and apologising he’s gone home and felt sorry for himself about being told off. Says it all.

Renabrook · 02/06/2025 10:25

DontTouchRoach · 02/06/2025 08:08

She’s been listening to the same joke every single week for two years about her being ‘lazy’ because her retired husband walks their dog on the days when she is caring for the dying on a palliative ward.

If anything, I think she underreacted.

And if a woman acted the same towards a man and he carried on like that the replies would be very different

LatteLady · 02/06/2025 10:29

Just wanted to say, well done @Guttyyyyyyyyy, that you have been restrained enough to have let it slide for two years, shows amazing restraint and I would be very disappointed in his wife. Perhaps she has been ground down and you have now shown her it does not have to be like this.

echt · 02/06/2025 10:30

Renabrook · 02/06/2025 10:25

And if a woman acted the same towards a man and he carried on like that the replies would be very different

Not. The. Point.

Start your own thread making this all up and see how it goes.

Thought not.

spicemaiden · 02/06/2025 10:31

Hey beyond deserves it. He’s a misogynistic bully - would bet my last penny he wouldn’t pull this bullshit on a man.

Tell her to stop fighting battles for her man-child of a misogynistic husband and find a better male specimen

thepariscrimefiles · 02/06/2025 10:31

Boreded · 02/06/2025 09:28

But if we don’t educate them properly then how will they change?

I’m not a perfect human who has never upset someone in their life, and I am sure I will upset dozens more before I die. But at no point is any harm ever meant, so someone explaining to me that they were upset gives me the opportunity to apologise and alter the behaviour that they found offensive.

If someone I upset had reacted in the way the OP did, I would be much less likely to want to set the situation right. And if I had reacted in the way the op did then I would understand that someone wouldn’t want to approach the issue with me until I apologised.

i just don’t want to believe that ALL men are awful, because I know from experience that they are not, but some are oblivious to their stupidity

Why on earth is it OP's job to educate a misogynistic twat who has been taking the piss out of her for 2 years? She just wants him to shut up and leave her alone and, hopefully, now he will.

I can't believe that a man behaves like this and you have framed it as another job for a woman rather than the man just learning his lesson from what OP said to him.

Pinepeak2434 · 02/06/2025 10:33

Love overdue I’d say.

Rosscameasdoody · 02/06/2025 10:33

ChateauMargaux · 02/06/2025 10:04

You did not over react. Years of comments have worn you down.

You may be menopausal but oestrogen suppresses our emotions and lots of women come out of oestrogen suppression raging, after years of putting the needs of other people first, keeping the peace, avoiding conflict.

I also watched a TedTalk that I will try to find later which explains that when we react, we are reacting to every time we felt obliged to remain silent, to accept micro aggressions, to be kind, to smile and nod.. when we find our voice, it all comes out and we speak on behalf of all women and all moments of misogyny when we do this.

Stand in your power!! We are with you.

I am sure that any attempt to explain your perspective would simply escalate this ... and of course, we are conditioned to de-escalate, to retreat to a safe space and to internalise our feelings and our hurt.... but this is what I would like to say if I were in your shoes... as I said.. I know how that goes.. and it results in me slinking away after having taken my stance.

Bob.. every time you tell me I am lazy and having a lie in, it annoys me, because you are making assumptions and judging me, every time, I think, I won't say anything, it's not important, just let it go, but every time, you laugh at my expense and I feel powerless to defend myself. You don't diminish or mock Dave, because he is a man. You are out here, marking your territory, making this space slightly inhospitable for me and other women. I could make all sorts of assumptions as to why, to excuse your behaviour and to assume you mean no harm, but it does cause harm, you are flexing your power and showing how little you respect women. I am not sorry for my response yesterday, I am only sorry I didn't put aside my social conditioning to speak before. I can not understand why I am expected to put up with your behaviour but when I responded, you have made this space even more inhospitable for me by involving your wife and by her posting publicly about this. The correct response would have been to reflect on your behaviour, change it and allowing women to feel more afe in this space, not less safe.

But yeah... Stand in your Power. We are with you!

You may be menopausal but oestrogen suppresses our emotions and lots of women come out of oestrogen suppression raging, after years of putting the needs of other people first, keeping the peace, avoiding conflict.

I can identify with this. I was put on oestrogen blocking meds after a breast cancer diagnosis a year ago, and several people in my life have commented as to how much more assertive l am and how much less tolerant of bullshit. Most have put it down to new found strength because of the diagnosis, but l’ve always suspected it was something to do with the suppression of female hormones. Just wish my hair wasn’t falling out as another side effect !!

MissDoubleU · 02/06/2025 10:34

LBFseBrom · 02/06/2025 09:20

I don't blame you but it might have been easier to just say, "Good morning/evening", and move on. I'm surprised you know him well enough for his wife to have your details, frankly!

I do understand how his remarks are annoying, they would annoy me but I wondered, is this an elderly man who does not remember details but wants to be pleasant?

In future, just ignore him - and fgs don't get into whatsapp with random dog walkers, never mind their spouses!

But OP has been doing that for years now. Surely there comes a point of being continually
called lazy (while her retired husband does no get the same after OP walks the dog alone..?) there comes a time she is allowed to defend herself and point out not only his rudeness but also his sexism.

Rosscameasdoody · 02/06/2025 10:34

thepariscrimefiles · 02/06/2025 10:31

Why on earth is it OP's job to educate a misogynistic twat who has been taking the piss out of her for 2 years? She just wants him to shut up and leave her alone and, hopefully, now he will.

I can't believe that a man behaves like this and you have framed it as another job for a woman rather than the man just learning his lesson from what OP said to him.

This.

PiggyPigalle · 02/06/2025 10:37

Dinosaur man, thinks only men go out to work, while women stay home.
Don't you just love the delicious irony of his wife having to complain on his behalf.
Think you did a good job OP. Mission accomplished.

Mfesdq · 02/06/2025 10:38

I support you OP but I'm unsure what you actually said that shut him up and upset him?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 02/06/2025 10:40

EnterFunnyNameHere · 02/06/2025 08:00

He deserved it. Feel free to message back the wife and say he's been upsetting you for the last 2 years going on and on about it even when you've been politely trying to shut him down each time!

I agree with @EnterFunnyNameHere 100%, @Guttyyyyyyyyy.