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AIBU- pulling someone up on snarky comments.

637 replies

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 07:57

So I work and DH is retired. We have a dog. I work 4 days a week . On the days I work DH walks the dog in the morning and I walk it in the evening. My days off we swap it around.
There is a group of dog walkers that meet in the morning. One man thinks its hilarious to ask if Ive enjoyed my sleep in/ lazy day/ sending DH out while I relax ect.
every single time I see him. 2 years of me just ignoring him / saying I work ect.
I work in a unit that deals with palliative care. Yesterday was a bloody hard day.
So this morning he said it must be nice to laze about on a Sunday and send DH out so I let him have it with both barrels - told him ( in rough terms) what my day consisted of. That I was up and out by 6am. Long drive. The realities of my job.
He was silent. Got home and his wife has watsapped to say Ive upset him !@@.
AIBU to think he deserves it.

OP posts:
Daleksatemyshed · 02/06/2025 17:15

Some posters don't seem to understand the concept of a joke- I say something funny and we both laugh- that's a joke. It's only a joke if you're both laughing, if I say something racist/sexist/uncalled for and no one laughs then it's not a joke, it's me being a twat.

HunnyPot · 02/06/2025 17:15

B1anche · 02/06/2025 15:57

Well we will never know because it is never women who make these crass comments.

Read any MN thread and prove yourself wrong!

You must be new here 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

nomas · 02/06/2025 17:17

Boreded · 02/06/2025 13:20

No, but it isn’t about the apology, it’s about the olive branch. I appreciate that some men are jerks, but others aren’t, and we don’t know whether this one is a jerk or just stupid, I’m guessing the latter.

I just don’t think that the right way to get men to respect women is to act disproportionately, as happened in this case.

im not on his side, he clearly can’t read a room, but that doesn’t mean he is part of the problem

Can you explain what wasn’t proportionate about OP’s response? She didn’t swear or raise her voice, she told him about her day working which started at 6am, after he said she must have had a lie-in. What do you think she should have said?

Toptotoe · 02/06/2025 17:20

His problem not yours. He’s probably sexist Presumably he doesn’t harass your husband when you have done the early walk asking him if he enjoyed his lazy day?

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 02/06/2025 17:25

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 16:40

......and Annoying Fucker has left the Watsapp group.

Result!

Hopefully this means he will no longer be on the dog walks. I hope his wife has left the group too.

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 17:30

RunningJo · 02/06/2025 16:53

No, the OP saying that she was at work, or choosing to ignore the stupid comment (time and time again) should be enough for an adult to ‘read the room’ and see it’s not getting the response he wanted and to stop. And yet he didn’t, despite not getting any indication to suggest the OP found this funny, he repeatedly said the same comments.

It doesn’t sound like the OP has once laughed along, or encouraged this ‘humour’, this wasn’t a long standing ‘in joke’ between friends that the OP suddenly decided to have a go at him after playing along for 2 years.

The fact that someone else has commented on the WhatsApp group speaks volumes for how annoying it is.

I said that the OP told him she worked and that she ignored them. I did read their posts. The fact that this has been going on for a period of two years clearly indicates that he hasn’t read the room. If someone I saw on a regular basis kept saying the same thing that annoyed me I can’t see myself not saying anything for two years. I never said the OP found it funny, just that he seemed to. He has greeted her with his usual annoying greeting to receive both barrels. I don’t dispute that he’s annoying and that he is as awful as described but I don’t think he deserved both barrels just because the OP had a bad day at work. You’re entitled to your opinion that he deserved it. It’s not his fault that she had a bad shift and as it’s palliative care that is potentially quite a lot to have in your barrels. It now seems that he has felt he needs to leave the group which seems to be celebrated. All seems a bit nasty to me.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/06/2025 17:37

EnterFunnyNameHere · 02/06/2025 08:00

He deserved it. Feel free to message back the wife and say he's been upsetting you for the last 2 years going on and on about it even when you've been politely trying to shut him down each time!

I like this.

Nanny0gg · 02/06/2025 17:38

Cavend · 02/06/2025 12:08

@Guttyyyyyyyyy

This. 100%. You say your DH agrees with you about giving this idiot both barrels, you don't know what he's said to the idiot (who sounds like a misogynist) and other members of the group, when you are at work.

After a few years, you generally know what sort of person your spouse is.

RunningJo · 02/06/2025 17:43

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 17:30

I said that the OP told him she worked and that she ignored them. I did read their posts. The fact that this has been going on for a period of two years clearly indicates that he hasn’t read the room. If someone I saw on a regular basis kept saying the same thing that annoyed me I can’t see myself not saying anything for two years. I never said the OP found it funny, just that he seemed to. He has greeted her with his usual annoying greeting to receive both barrels. I don’t dispute that he’s annoying and that he is as awful as described but I don’t think he deserved both barrels just because the OP had a bad day at work. You’re entitled to your opinion that he deserved it. It’s not his fault that she had a bad shift and as it’s palliative care that is potentially quite a lot to have in your barrels. It now seems that he has felt he needs to leave the group which seems to be celebrated. All seems a bit nasty to me.

I do think he deserved getting told, yes. I can understand why the OP was utterly fed up. Maybe she thought she’d given enough hints but was absolutely brassed off that despite trying to be polite / subtle it hadn’t worked, and there he was again with the same inane comment.
For some this may be an over reaction because everyone is different with different tolerance levels, some people would be less tolerant, some would have continued to have ignored it I guess. I’d have probably been in the ‘ignore it until I couldn’t’ camp, a bit like OP. But as I say, we’re all different

On one hand I don’t think it should be celebrated that he left the group, but if he’s been making people feel uncomfortable with his comments (assume you read the ladyboy one which was outrageously rude) then maybe it’s for the best.
But of course he could also choose to apologise and move on, and continue to go for the walks.

Mrsbloggz · 02/06/2025 17:47

easy, just msg back:
you want some then bitch???
outside now!!!
(unless you dont think you can take her?)

Umbrellasinthesunshine · 02/06/2025 18:03

That he’d rather leave the chat than reflect and try to clear the air speaks volumes. Tantrum because people have called out your “jokes” as unfunny because they’re really just bullying dressed up as “banter”.

Afewtimesagain · 02/06/2025 18:09

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 16:40

......and Annoying Fucker has left the Watsapp group.

Excellent news, let your friend that stopped joining the walks know that the coast may be clear for them to return.

Flashahah · 02/06/2025 18:45

Hardgum · 02/06/2025 16:50

Wouldn’t you have said something to someone if it was your husband working 4 days a week as a palliative and you know that on his one precious day of walking… he had faced a woman denigrating him? For 2 years!

No my DH can speak for himself, as can I.

Noodles1234 · 02/06/2025 19:21

I think what you did needed to be done, he hasn’t caught the hint over two years, sometimes people don’t think and think themselves as funny (bet he wouldn’t like it back to him).
overreacted? Probably not / possibly, but I think sometimes it’s the only way people understand and then act the victim.
Your job is so so invaluable, thank you, and i hope in future he will consider his humour tactics.

ContraryNoodle · 02/06/2025 19:22

pimplebum · 02/06/2025 13:56

I also think you over reacted , he was annoying and sexist as he would not have said all that bollocks to your oh but
you could have drawn on all your skills to say something assertive but kind to get him to stop
the fact he is so upset his wife is standing up for him he must be very sensitive

be the bigger person and apologise for

“ giving it to him both barrels” like you said menopause and work stress made you lose your cool

Please tell me that was sarcasm or satire! Because no one can be this demented...

ClaredeBear · 02/06/2025 19:53

Rosscameasdoody · 02/06/2025 12:17

So rather than feeling awkward and as though you owe him an explanation of every bit of the minutiae in your lives, the correct response is ‘mind your own business’. On repeat. Every time.

This comment made my day because as I wrote the post it occurred to me for the first time that I need to do exactly that!

thepariscrimefiles · 02/06/2025 20:01

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 17:30

I said that the OP told him she worked and that she ignored them. I did read their posts. The fact that this has been going on for a period of two years clearly indicates that he hasn’t read the room. If someone I saw on a regular basis kept saying the same thing that annoyed me I can’t see myself not saying anything for two years. I never said the OP found it funny, just that he seemed to. He has greeted her with his usual annoying greeting to receive both barrels. I don’t dispute that he’s annoying and that he is as awful as described but I don’t think he deserved both barrels just because the OP had a bad day at work. You’re entitled to your opinion that he deserved it. It’s not his fault that she had a bad shift and as it’s palliative care that is potentially quite a lot to have in your barrels. It now seems that he has felt he needs to leave the group which seems to be celebrated. All seems a bit nasty to me.

Did you read OP's post where she said that another dog walker had stopped joining this walking group because this man kept asking her whether her sister in law was a lady-boy because she is from the Philippines. As well as being a misogynist he is also a racist. I find that much more nasty than OP finally telling him some home truths after 2 years of listening to him calling her lazy.

I think him leaving the group is to be celebrated if you are a decent person that won't put up with misogyny and racism.

EleanorReally · 02/06/2025 20:10

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 16:40

......and Annoying Fucker has left the Watsapp group.

Perfect!

EleanorReally · 02/06/2025 20:11

we have a similar unfunny man, but not a regular walk, and no whatsapp fortunately
we can hide if we see him!

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:13

thepariscrimefiles · 02/06/2025 20:01

Did you read OP's post where she said that another dog walker had stopped joining this walking group because this man kept asking her whether her sister in law was a lady-boy because she is from the Philippines. As well as being a misogynist he is also a racist. I find that much more nasty than OP finally telling him some home truths after 2 years of listening to him calling her lazy.

I think him leaving the group is to be celebrated if you are a decent person that won't put up with misogyny and racism.

But she didn’t challenge him on his misogynistic or racist views, nor in solidarity with their fellow dog walker who did vote with their feet. She only gave both barrels as a result of being called lazy. The OP who continued to meet this person with the other dog walkers ignoring their disgusting opinions until they had a bad day at work and a menopausal rage. If his wife hadn’t text and he hadn’t left the group this afternoon chances are they would still be walking their dogs in the same group. Hardly the decent person that you refer to.

NotjustCo2 · 02/06/2025 20:16

Daleksatemyshed · 02/06/2025 17:15

Some posters don't seem to understand the concept of a joke- I say something funny and we both laugh- that's a joke. It's only a joke if you're both laughing, if I say something racist/sexist/uncalled for and no one laughs then it's not a joke, it's me being a twat.

You’ve been well socialised 😁

thepariscrimefiles · 02/06/2025 20:25

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:13

But she didn’t challenge him on his misogynistic or racist views, nor in solidarity with their fellow dog walker who did vote with their feet. She only gave both barrels as a result of being called lazy. The OP who continued to meet this person with the other dog walkers ignoring their disgusting opinions until they had a bad day at work and a menopausal rage. If his wife hadn’t text and he hadn’t left the group this afternoon chances are they would still be walking their dogs in the same group. Hardly the decent person that you refer to.

JFC you are now making OP responsible for this racist twat's behaviour because she didn't challenge him. From what OP said, it sounds as though she has only just found out about this:

'Another group member has just told me that the reason she hasn't been for weeks is that he kept asking her if her sis in law was a ladyboy because the sis in law is from the Phillipines.'

You said that it shouldn't be celebrated that he had to leave the dog walking group. I disagreed because he isn't the sort of person that anyone would want in their group unless they were also racist and misogynistic.

Flashahah · 02/06/2025 20:29

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:13

But she didn’t challenge him on his misogynistic or racist views, nor in solidarity with their fellow dog walker who did vote with their feet. She only gave both barrels as a result of being called lazy. The OP who continued to meet this person with the other dog walkers ignoring their disgusting opinions until they had a bad day at work and a menopausal rage. If his wife hadn’t text and he hadn’t left the group this afternoon chances are they would still be walking their dogs in the same group. Hardly the decent person that you refer to.

Did you read the post where OP said that she only found out about the racist comment today? What was she expected to do?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 02/06/2025 20:35

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:13

But she didn’t challenge him on his misogynistic or racist views, nor in solidarity with their fellow dog walker who did vote with their feet. She only gave both barrels as a result of being called lazy. The OP who continued to meet this person with the other dog walkers ignoring their disgusting opinions until they had a bad day at work and a menopausal rage. If his wife hadn’t text and he hadn’t left the group this afternoon chances are they would still be walking their dogs in the same group. Hardly the decent person that you refer to.

She only found out about the racist comments after she handed this bloke his arse, @ClearHoldBuild - she would have needed a crystal ball to have told him off about it.

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:39

thepariscrimefiles · 02/06/2025 20:25

JFC you are now making OP responsible for this racist twat's behaviour because she didn't challenge him. From what OP said, it sounds as though she has only just found out about this:

'Another group member has just told me that the reason she hasn't been for weeks is that he kept asking her if her sis in law was a ladyboy because the sis in law is from the Phillipines.'

You said that it shouldn't be celebrated that he had to leave the dog walking group. I disagreed because he isn't the sort of person that anyone would want in their group unless they were also racist and misogynistic.

My original point was that bearing in mind that the OP doesn’t at this stage know anything about racism or misogyny. They’ve just had to deal with being called lazy for two years which they have not condoned or challenged, I personally feel based on that it was unreasonable to give them both barrels. I do not think his conduct is acceptable nor do I think the OP should have taken her bad day out on him. I’m not asking you to agree with me, it’s just one person’s opinion.