To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

[YourAmplePlumPoster]

I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

Wait... from under your desk? 😂

In an office, nothing dodgy honestly!

@ilovesooty

I'm talking about an understanding of people who are brave enough to say that on some days even getting up and outside the door is a monumental struggle. They don't deserve to be shamed for that.

But we're not talking about people who find getting outside the door a struggle: we're talking about people choosing to wear a dressing gown and a pair of novelty slippers to the shops/school run.

If you genuinely can't manage day to day life you don't think "I'll choose to put on a huge pair of yeti slippers and a dressing gown to go to the shops". You wear a t-shirt and hoody and tracksuit bottoms. It's completely performative.

How do you know the difference?

They do it to gove fodder for people who need to come up with something to put on MN

But this is the whole problem with judging - people who are struggling, and with whom you'd have empathy if you "knew their reason", are facing judgement from all around them because people are making assumptions and judgments based on nothing but surface impression. What you just said is the entire problem with judging.

I'm making this worse aren't I?!? She was checking the connections and crawling about on the floor. I went into another office every time she had to do anything after that. I also learned to do a lot of the IT stuff myself!

If I'm paying to stay in a lovely boutique hotel, then coming down early in my pj's for coffee and breakfast is part of the luxury.

My pj's are nice loungewear style/ don't look like pj's but also don't look like clothes you'd wear for a day out.

I'm usually the first person downstairs, sit alone and don't interact with others, so really don't expect anyone to care.

I would like someone to explain why they've worn their pjs to the supermarket and if they would wear their pjs to work.

I'll make sure I wear a sign if it happens again - 'to all the judgemental twats, I had surgery last week and don't have any comfortable trousers'

Hotel breakfast in your pjs I can get on board with and wish I had the balls to do.

The other stuff is definitely grim.

@XenoBitch

How do you know the difference?

I can't verify in each and every case, obviously, that everyone who does this has no alternative clothing available to them. Maybe some people genuinely only have dressing gowns and novelty slippers. But it takes seconds to swap out your novelty slippers for a pair of trainers and discard your dressing gown. How hard can it be?

OMG I think I know her. I came across a post by her on another forum, using her real name, where she said she wore basques and stockings and suspenders to work because they were ‘more comfortable’!

Ah, we need a neon sign.

I LOVE pyjamas, I always wear my dressing gown at home even in the summer, I won’t be in the house without it on, and at the weekend I’m in my pjs until late morning unless we have plans. I get changed into them when I know I won’t be going out again. But hell would have to freeze over before I took my dc anywhere in their pyjamas (unless it was an emergency hospital visit) or left the house in mine. When we recently stayed at a hotel, it was a quick change into leggings and a t shirt for breakfast and proper day clothes on after.

But why does it matter to you?
What harm is it doing to you? Fuck all I bet.

totally agree. I have driven my kids to school in my pjs when ill, with boots and coat on to cover them up , and didn’t get out the car , but wouldn’t be seen in public wearing them

Supermarket and work are totally different things.

@XenoBitch

But why does it matter to you?
What harm is it doing to you? Fuck all I bet.

It's not doing me any harm, I just think its cringeworthy. Sue me, but this is a chat board where people give their opinions.

Well I've explained why I wore mine to John Lewis. Does working from home count? I haven't worked in an office for a while but I've done numerous teams calls in my koala print Oodie.

Why on earth do you care or think it is any of your business what anyone else is wearing?

The fact you can't leave the house without wearing make up, is in my opinion more weird than people out in their Pj's. I should add that I personally don't venture out in public in Pj's but probably only because I don't ever wear them 😂

If it’s early morning or late at night I don’t see the problem going to the shop in PJs, I’ve done it when I was at uni but did have a winter coat on top of them.

Doing the school run in PJs is embarrassing, I’ve never seen anyone do it though.

I don't see PJs on the school run, but do in my local supermarket at night occasionally. However, PJs would be nicer than some of the clothes parents wear at the school gate every afternoon.

I.also worked in a professional office where one colleague turned up in a cheap tracksuit every day & hair didn't look brushed. I actually suspect they were her PJs.

It could be that I'm just a personality type that cares how I present myself. You never know who you might run into!

Don't be obtuse. You know it's not a case of someone "genuinely only have dressing gowns and novelty slippers". But if someone is struggling, with any aspect of life, maybe that's all that's clean. Or maybe that's what they're already wearing and getting changed is just one step too far.

I know it sounds all wishy washy "bleeding heart", but seriously, the judgment all around us is so depressing and damaging and I wish it would stop. I'm a carer and have known people in living situations you wouldn't even be able to imagine. People are judged for staying home and not venturing out, then they're judged for going out in the wrong things. People act like judging is harmless but it's not. Indulge in it if you like but know you're ignorant.

When I worked in Teesside/Hartlepool I could tell when Christmas was approaching as all the PJ’s changed over to Christmas ones.