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DH throwing out my things

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fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:20

DH is a minimalist to the extreme, he has very little in terms of 'things'. Naturally I'm the opposite, a hoarder. Over the years I've conceded ground and downsized a LOT to pacify him, although it's probably fair to say that I still have too much stuff and it's also a bit messy and cluttered. Having kids has obviously brought more stuff to the house generally, but my own "stuff" is contained, with most of the house being tidy and (from my perspective at least) quite minimalist as he likes it. The "stuff" is in our bedroom (my side) to some extent, but mostly in my study which only I use.
In response to my compromises, instead of compromising too he seems to be going the other way. I'm increasingly finding my stuff in the bin, or things have just disappeared. I'm not talking about my most prized possessions, but they are things that I have bought, with my own money, for myself, that are on my side of the bedroom or in my study. I've always known not to leave things lying around in the kitchen or lounge or whatever for this reason, but it's like he's encroaching more and more on what I'd consider limited private spaces. To be fair, a lot of them are not big stuff. But even if it's just a receipt, it might be for some things I had meant to return or where I was going to claim something back as an expense. But to him, he's right and I'm wrong.
Even if it's actually something that is completely unimportant and doesn't matter to me, I still feel in principle that he shouldn't be throwing out my things from my study without checking or at the very least telling me. Am I being unreasonable?
When I pick him up on something specific, the response is always about the actual thing in question "what were you going to do with it anyway / it had a rip in it / you said yourself you have too many socks". Where for me, it's about the principle of it being up to me what to do with my own things. He says my clutter affects him as he lives here too, but he increasingly seems to be looking for it beyond surface level (while he is extremely private about his own things).
His 'need' to get rid of things also extends to perishable goods. So I might buy an expensive condiment (where he won't spend a penny more than he has to on anything), or I'll get a bottle of Baileys as a present from someone, he'll use them up as fast as he can, I'm talking days, not really 'enjoying' them as far as I can see, but just to get them out of the house. And inside I feel "hey they are my nice things", but am I just being selfish?
The other side is that I probably do have too much stuff and too much emotional attachment to 'things'. And gifts I receive like the Baileys could be in the cupboard for weeks/months otherwise. He says they're there to be used. Should I just give in?
At the moment I'm not giving in, at least not in my head, it's a huge source of frustration for me. But any effort to put a boundary in place on this, as with anything else really, is met with a bullheaded wall of stubborness ("I'm not agreeing to that"). I basically have to let it go time and again. But it's making me very anxious, what will be gone next?

OP posts:
Riaanna · 29/05/2025 08:12

LHR2JFK · 29/05/2025 07:37

A bottle of Bailey’s in the cupboard and you would “get rid?” that’s you being weird and controlling.

OP there are many clutter charts online. Could you have a look and see what score you would give your workspace. Because obviously people have different ideas of what is going on.

No a bottle of baileys probably not unless we already had two in there. Chutney, if no one ate it yes that’s going. Along with receipts left lying around and ripped socks. But yeah cling to the Bailey’s.

Riaanna · 29/05/2025 08:13

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 08:05

What, a single receipt for a recently-bought item, or clothes that need to go into the laundry or drawer rather than just be binned?

A present is a special something for you to enjoy as and when you want to (within reason). It isn't something to just 'use up' and get rid of.

There was a time when it was considered a good thing to eke out nice things and make them last. Savouring something luxurious over a few weeks - or keeping it for a special occasion - was seen as self-control; not hoarding. Children who scoffed all of their sweets in five minutes were told off; not praised for getting rid of them efficiently.

Edited

It’s not a single one off receipt though is it.

Nominative · 29/05/2025 08:14

CharnwoodFire · 29/05/2025 07:55

How slowly is slowly?

Some people think it's okay to keep Baileys for years and years - which is grim as its a dairy product.

Really it should be consumed within a few months.

No, Baileys is fine for two years.

PotOfViolas · 29/05/2025 08:16

I'll get a bottle of Baileys as a present from someone, he'll use them up as fast as he can, I'm talking days, not really 'enjoying' them as far as I can see, but just to get them out of the house.
So weird and controlling.

BunnyLake · 29/05/2025 08:16

There seems to be two separate issues here. One, are you very messy, the kind of messy that is difficult for anyone else to live happily in or is he too extreme in his minimalism, and two) regardless of that, he is spiteful if he reacts to you by seeking revenge (re the family holiday as one example.

Even without the minimalism versus maximilism , being spiteful is a deal breaker in my books.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 08:17

Delphigirl · 29/05/2025 07:56

What does this have to do with anything discussed? Nobody is clearing the house of crockery.

It's a development of the matter being discussed - as most threads usually turn out.

Is it really such a stretch on a discussion like this one to be considering the mindset of somebody who cannot bear anything around? After all, there are plenty of people on this thread who are assuming that OP is drowning in a sea of junk and are responding accordingly, when nothing she has said suggests that.

beAsensible1 · 29/05/2025 08:17

Totallytoti · 29/05/2025 07:04

Is he abusive or sick of the years of hoarding? We have snippets of your version op - ripped socks, stuff you were going to use, your side of the bedroom messy etc. I wouldn’t be ok with one side of the bedroom a state and just because it isn’t my side I need to put up with it. There’s kids involved, horrible for them to grow up in a hoarding environment.
the very fact that you have a hoard filled study but justify it as you keep the door closed and only you use it, tells me you really are minimising your issue and painting your dh in a bad light.

This.

clearly the stuff isn’t only in the study as it’s embracing too space dh can throw them away.

how old are the special condiments and food gifts.

Theworldisinyourhands · 29/05/2025 08:19

OP like some other pp I'm also getting the impression that the situation might be more extreme than you're letting on.

My DH isn't exactly a hoarder but he loves his computers, refuses to give up anything computer/technology related. We have had arguments before because he just piles things around the house. He would probably describe it as 'just leaving a couple of computer parts lying around for a bit' whereas the reality was that until I put my foot down there was always an entire fucking computer that he was 'working on' taking up our dining table or cluttering up our living room. I never want him to give up what makes him happy but on the same note our shared space is exactly that. Our agreement now is that computer parts etc stay in our office room and are organised into storage boxes.

I don't think many people would enjoy manky bits of paper or clothes cluttering up their sleeping space in all honesty.... Sorry if I missed something but is there no way you can earmark a bedroom drawer for these things so they're at least out of sight? Or a box in your clutter spare room? Is the alcohol really being guzzled in days? Again my DH might tell people I throw away perfectly good alcohol as we have tonnes of the stuff (get it gifted but hardly ever drink) Reality is I'm chucking beer that's 3 years OOD!

DH shouldn't be touching your stuff but wanting your living space to be decluttered enough to enjoy isn't unreasonable either

JemimaPiddlepot · 29/05/2025 08:21

OP literally says in the second sentence “I’m a hoarder”.

Admitting to yourself that you have a tendency to struggle with throwing possessions away and working on that is a world away from a diagnosed mental health condition.

BunnyLake · 29/05/2025 08:21

PotOfViolas · 29/05/2025 08:16

I'll get a bottle of Baileys as a present from someone, he'll use them up as fast as he can, I'm talking days, not really 'enjoying' them as far as I can see, but just to get them out of the house.
So weird and controlling.

He’d go mad at me. I had a half used bottle of wine in the fridge from Christmas to about April just sitting there. I had no intention of drinking it but just let it stay there as I’d use it for cooking. I did eventually use it to cook with (amazingly wasn’t even vinegary, it tasted fine). I would have been very annoyed if someone had just taken it upon themselves to throw it out.

Butterflyarms · 29/05/2025 08:23

Start putting his trainers and pants in the bin and see how he reacts.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/05/2025 08:24

Er he needs to stop this right now.

This is totally unacceptable.

I’d give him fair warning and go top grade ballistic if he does it again.

For future reference you need to hold your boundaries, compromise has to be from both sides.

Pigtailsandall · 29/05/2025 08:24

That's not OK by your dh. You need autonomy over your things and possessions, plus that sounds like an incredibly anxious way of living.

I'm definitely on the minimalist side of things and my dh is not, so even if it's a holey pair of socks, I always check if I can get rid of something. Does he do this with the kids' stuff?

prelovedusername · 29/05/2025 08:25

You sound like me, I have hoarding tendencies but ironically I find it very difficult to live with other people’s clutter so I can see both sides of this! I find it very difficult to rationalise stuff, deciding priorities, everything seems equally important, is this you?

I keep communal areas very tidy because that’s how I prefer to live and for DH to play ball I need to practice what I preach, but I do make full use of any hidden storage, ottoman bed, floor to ceiling wardrobes etc. I find IKEA zipped storage and shoe bags invaluable for storing random stuff.

Your DH sounds very controlling and this not on, but there isn’t really a compromise where
tidiness is concerned. To a tidy person any clutter is intolerable. I think you may just be incompatible.

FinchAddict · 29/05/2025 08:26

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

He is abusive. This isn't a normal reaction.

DH and I have a bit of a mis-match. I will just throw stuff out on a whim, he's far more sentimental. But I don't throw his stuff out (I'll move it together, put it in a box, pop it all in his office etc). I also don't throw anything out that's expensive (or not easily replaced) without checking with him first. This is just simple respect.

Personally, I'd be leaving this relationship.

Riaanna · 29/05/2025 08:26

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 08:17

It's a development of the matter being discussed - as most threads usually turn out.

Is it really such a stretch on a discussion like this one to be considering the mindset of somebody who cannot bear anything around? After all, there are plenty of people on this thread who are assuming that OP is drowning in a sea of junk and are responding accordingly, when nothing she has said suggests that.

Only it does if you look at the examples of what he’s throwing out.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/05/2025 08:26

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

Op this man sounds like a lunatic

I’d seriously consider chucking him out

Riaanna · 29/05/2025 08:28

Nominative · 29/05/2025 08:10

There's an interesting divide on this thread between tidiness freaks and others. I quite see that being a hoarder isn't desirable, but equally being so insistent on tidiness that everyone has to fall in with you and cannot be allowed to keep their own possessions in their own study or bedroom is hardly a good trait psychologically. What happened to mutual give-and-take?

I’m a million miles off a tidy freak but I don’t want to be called unreasonable for not wanting to live amongst old socks and receipts lying around.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 08:29

BunnyLake · 29/05/2025 08:07

That sounds unhinged. I don’t envy anyone who ends up (or ended up) with him.

He was indeed very unhinged. Very nice chap, but with a lot of issues.

latetothefisting · 29/05/2025 08:30

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

This is really unhealthy, can you not see that?

If a friend told you they'd accidentally thrown out a book or pair of socks belonging to their dh and their dh responded by binning everything they owned how would you react?

Or if you bumped into an acquaintance at the shop and said "oh hey Jane, I thought you lot were on holiday, I saw your dp's photos online with your kids" and she said "oh yeah, I was supposed to go but I accidentally threw out dp's t shirt so he told his family I was working and couldn't come."

You'd think wtf, that's abuse, right?

What if one of your kids' partners did this to them when they are older? You realise you're conditioning them to think this is a normal way to behave, which makes it more likely they will end up in an abusive relationship?

beAsensible1 · 29/05/2025 08:30

Other than the baileys everything OP has described as her DH throwing away is rubbish.

If she needs to keep ripped clothes and old receipts they should be in her study not the communal areas.

If saw a ripped sock in the communal
area I’d chuck it out. And if saw DH putting it away I’d tell him to stop being silly and put it in the bin

crumblingschools · 29/05/2025 08:31

There are different definitions of hoarder. When I think of hoarders I normally think of those people where you can’t get into rooms because of the amount of stuff piled up. You don’t seem to fit this description.

Some people keep stuff, others don’t. Does he call you a hoarder? Keeping a bottle of drink or condiments for more than a few days is not being a hoarder, that is normal. Trying to use it up in a few days is not normal.

If you have receipts to claim expenses etc, they need to be kept

Throwing other people’s stuff away is not normal unless you have agreed that is okay. So when doing the laundry if I notice massive hole in someone’s socks I would throw them away (knowing everyone has supply of socks). I wouldn’t just throw socks away because I think they have too many. If they don’t fit in drawers I may recommend a sort out. If a larger item of clothing has a hole in it, then a discussion would be had to see if worth mending or getting rid of.

candycane222 · 29/05/2025 08:31

Zita60 · 29/05/2025 07:48

I think the husband sounds like he needs counselling, to be honest.

I can understand that if he likes a minimalist environment, her need to keep stuff would be hard for him to live with. But what he's doing is excessive. He's throwing out the property of another adult without permission.

It sounds as if she isn't cluttering the shared areas. But he is obsessively throwing out her things in her own space, her study. That's not normal, it's controlling behaviour.

If he is genuinely unable to cope rationally and negotiate over an amount of daily stuff within a normal range, if it makes him so anxious he loses the ability to behave reasonably, then he indeed is the one with a psychological problem.

The behaviour over the baileys does sound a bit as though he has a variety of OCD.

HOWEVER if he was genuinely distressed by co-habiting with OP the fair and rational response would be to seek help eg counselling to ease his distress, or perhaps joint counselling with OP.

However distressing he find OPs many wearable socks, this is NO EXCUSE FOR BEING ABUSIVE.

If he is distressed he needs help.

Him being abusive to OP is not a recognised treatment for anxiety. It's abuse.

I understand that OP won't want to say this to him because of his likely nasty reaction but -surely he'd be happier in a place of his own? Or - would he be miserable without someone to control....

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 29/05/2025 08:32

Are you really a hoarder or is that what he’s led you to believe?

Sillycally · 29/05/2025 08:32

Nominative · 29/05/2025 08:10

There's an interesting divide on this thread between tidiness freaks and others. I quite see that being a hoarder isn't desirable, but equally being so insistent on tidiness that everyone has to fall in with you and cannot be allowed to keep their own possessions in their own study or bedroom is hardly a good trait psychologically. What happened to mutual give-and-take?

@nominative I completely agree 😞 like I say I don't usually post, but I do sympathise with OPs DH, it's honestly a genuine disorder for us.

For me, it's like pissing against the wind and trying to stay dry, constantly putting away everyone's belongings.

But maybe I've just lost my marbles, apparently Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result 🤪

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