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DH throwing out my things

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fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:20

DH is a minimalist to the extreme, he has very little in terms of 'things'. Naturally I'm the opposite, a hoarder. Over the years I've conceded ground and downsized a LOT to pacify him, although it's probably fair to say that I still have too much stuff and it's also a bit messy and cluttered. Having kids has obviously brought more stuff to the house generally, but my own "stuff" is contained, with most of the house being tidy and (from my perspective at least) quite minimalist as he likes it. The "stuff" is in our bedroom (my side) to some extent, but mostly in my study which only I use.
In response to my compromises, instead of compromising too he seems to be going the other way. I'm increasingly finding my stuff in the bin, or things have just disappeared. I'm not talking about my most prized possessions, but they are things that I have bought, with my own money, for myself, that are on my side of the bedroom or in my study. I've always known not to leave things lying around in the kitchen or lounge or whatever for this reason, but it's like he's encroaching more and more on what I'd consider limited private spaces. To be fair, a lot of them are not big stuff. But even if it's just a receipt, it might be for some things I had meant to return or where I was going to claim something back as an expense. But to him, he's right and I'm wrong.
Even if it's actually something that is completely unimportant and doesn't matter to me, I still feel in principle that he shouldn't be throwing out my things from my study without checking or at the very least telling me. Am I being unreasonable?
When I pick him up on something specific, the response is always about the actual thing in question "what were you going to do with it anyway / it had a rip in it / you said yourself you have too many socks". Where for me, it's about the principle of it being up to me what to do with my own things. He says my clutter affects him as he lives here too, but he increasingly seems to be looking for it beyond surface level (while he is extremely private about his own things).
His 'need' to get rid of things also extends to perishable goods. So I might buy an expensive condiment (where he won't spend a penny more than he has to on anything), or I'll get a bottle of Baileys as a present from someone, he'll use them up as fast as he can, I'm talking days, not really 'enjoying' them as far as I can see, but just to get them out of the house. And inside I feel "hey they are my nice things", but am I just being selfish?
The other side is that I probably do have too much stuff and too much emotional attachment to 'things'. And gifts I receive like the Baileys could be in the cupboard for weeks/months otherwise. He says they're there to be used. Should I just give in?
At the moment I'm not giving in, at least not in my head, it's a huge source of frustration for me. But any effort to put a boundary in place on this, as with anything else really, is met with a bullheaded wall of stubborness ("I'm not agreeing to that"). I basically have to let it go time and again. But it's making me very anxious, what will be gone next?

OP posts:
OhCobblers · 29/05/2025 07:53

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

This post alone makes me feel you need to leave him. What an absolute wanker and a bully.
what about stuff relating to your children - a baby book? Will that go at some time? What about their own belongings - will he bin those too?
what a horrible horrible little man

SunnySideDeepDown · 29/05/2025 07:54

CharnwoodFire · 29/05/2025 07:40

Forcing someone to live in piles of shit clutter is also abuse.

The way OP wrote didn’t make out the house was un a pile of shit clutter. She has some stuff in HER office and HER side of her bed. Everywhere else is tidy according to OP. Not sure where you got that from!

Delphigirl · 29/05/2025 07:54

Looking at it from the other way - Your complaints are about him throwing eg receipts and using things up too fast. Sounds to me like it is only him who is keeping you from descending into full - on hoarding. It’s an intractable psychological disorder. It is not acceptable to make anyone live with your hoard of crap, particularly in the bedroom. Doesn’t matter if it is on “your side” of the room. The fact that he is trying to keep a lid on it and to a manageable level is understandable. If you insist on hoarding in the house to the extent you want to, that will be the end of your relationship. Ask yourself if you would prefer your pile of crap or your relationship and then act accordingly.

CharnwoodFire · 29/05/2025 07:55

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/05/2025 07:50

No, it's not different.

It doesn't matter whether someone else considers that the OP's property is "unnecessary junk".

She is allowed to have, for example, a bottle of Baileys that lives in a cupboard and is drunk slowly.

How slowly is slowly?

Some people think it's okay to keep Baileys for years and years - which is grim as its a dairy product.

Really it should be consumed within a few months.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 07:55

It really doesn't help that 'hoarding' is often thrown about flippantly to mean nothing of the sort - and just to grossly exaggerate a few things needing to be tidied away or dealt with.

The same as people who can't just acknowledge that they like things to be clean or done in a certain way, but rather they must be "a bit OCD".

Others will strongly disagree, but I think that the other end of the spectrum - maybe 'anti-hoarding' - can be a sign of mental health issues as well.

I know people who will grab a bin bag and just start binning everything with a robotic maniacal look in their eyes. Often perfectly good and useful stuff that they personally happen not to need or want at this moment will get flung straight into a bag for landfill as if it were plagued - not the faintest regard for recycling or giving away to somebody who needs it either.

I used to live with somebody (housemate at uni, not a partner) who would literally throw things in the bin after he'd used them and continually buy new ones when he inevitably needed them again a short while later. A used plate was not something to be washed up and put back into the cupboard to be used again for the next meal - it was 'rubbish' that had no immediate purpose (having just finished today's meal) and so it had to be thrown in the bin. A decent thick winter coat bought new a couple of months ago was 'rubbish', as the weather was now starting to get warmer; it didn't need to go back into the wardrobe ready for next winter, or even given to a charity shop, but rather it had to be binned.

He also threw food away wastefully: e.g. a packet of cakes with half a dozen in it, best before date some time into the future, would get binned after he'd eaten the one that he wanted right now. Keeping them in the cupboard to be enjoyed over the next few weeks - or even offering them to the other grateful people who lived there too when they got back in a few hours' time - would be 'hoarding', you see.

Delphigirl · 29/05/2025 07:56

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 07:55

It really doesn't help that 'hoarding' is often thrown about flippantly to mean nothing of the sort - and just to grossly exaggerate a few things needing to be tidied away or dealt with.

The same as people who can't just acknowledge that they like things to be clean or done in a certain way, but rather they must be "a bit OCD".

Others will strongly disagree, but I think that the other end of the spectrum - maybe 'anti-hoarding' - can be a sign of mental health issues as well.

I know people who will grab a bin bag and just start binning everything with a robotic maniacal look in their eyes. Often perfectly good and useful stuff that they personally happen not to need or want at this moment will get flung straight into a bag for landfill as if it were plagued - not the faintest regard for recycling or giving away to somebody who needs it either.

I used to live with somebody (housemate at uni, not a partner) who would literally throw things in the bin after he'd used them and continually buy new ones when he inevitably needed them again a short while later. A used plate was not something to be washed up and put back into the cupboard to be used again for the next meal - it was 'rubbish' that had no immediate purpose (having just finished today's meal) and so it had to be thrown in the bin. A decent thick winter coat bought new a couple of months ago was 'rubbish', as the weather was now starting to get warmer; it didn't need to go back into the wardrobe ready for next winter, or even given to a charity shop, but rather it had to be binned.

He also threw food away wastefully: e.g. a packet of cakes with half a dozen in it, best before date some time into the future, would get binned after he'd eaten the one that he wanted right now. Keeping them in the cupboard to be enjoyed over the next few weeks - or even offering them to the other grateful people who lived there too when they got back in a few hours' time - would be 'hoarding', you see.

Edited

What does this have to do with anything discussed? Nobody is clearing the house of crockery.

Nominative · 29/05/2025 07:57

Shoemadlady · 28/05/2025 23:33

You sound like a hoarder. If that’s the case I think you’re underestimating how bad it is and maybe he’s at breaking point. Maybe you can’t even see how bad it is? I couldn’t live with a hoarder either to be fair.

How? Wanting to keep stuff like Baileys and enjoy it as and when is hardly a crime. The whole point of that sort of drink is that it can last for ages.

Plus, if it's in OP's study, how does it impact on anyone else? Her husband doesn't have to go in there if he doesn't like it. In fact, he should be keeping well out of it as how she does her work is really none of his business.

beAsensible1 · 29/05/2025 07:59

to a hoarder her side could be the it’s completely covered in stuff. But maybe it’s in piles so it’s not that bad.

I’m so so sceptical of hoarders and their interpretation of what mess/clutter even is.

everyone is stuck in baileys but she also said receipts… how many receipts are about the place that he has to start throwing them away?

if they’ve been together years I wonder if this is the sign of DH at the end of his tether when he used to leave the gifts and receipts and they’d sit about gather dust. Or the bottle wine is being “saved” but it’s a screw cap so it’s actually just gone off

CharnwoodFire · 29/05/2025 08:00

SunnySideDeepDown · 29/05/2025 07:54

The way OP wrote didn’t make out the house was un a pile of shit clutter. She has some stuff in HER office and HER side of her bed. Everywhere else is tidy according to OP. Not sure where you got that from!

But having half a bedroom covered in stuff will hinder a good, calming, zen, sleeping environment. Even if it is only half the bedroom.

The OP should respect his wishes and tidy up her stuff.

butterfly55 · 29/05/2025 08:01

On the surface he sounds wrong, BUT in our house, DH is the hoarder and I am not, and I can tell you it's painful! DH has a room that's "his" - I've been asking him since 2019 to please, please tidy it up a bit. He always says he will, but never does. The other week, I did it when he was at work. I made a huge pile of stuff to be thrown/donated and let him check the pile before it went. Honestly it creeps all over the house though - he has 70 jackets and 104 bottles of spirit (he doesn't like spirits, but loves the bottles). The garage is full of shit - bikes he hasn't ridden in 17 years. It drives me mad, and makes me feel unwell at times. I have even thought about separating in order to have a tidier house. If all his "stuff" was gone, the house would be so serene. I don't want that though, so I just make the most of what I can. I am currently selling a lot of his stuff on Vinted (with his permission). You say you have "stuff" in the bedroom - DH doesn't and our room is lovely - can't you sort that out? At least have a tidy place to sleep!!

iliketheradio · 29/05/2025 08:01

There’s having lots of stuff and then there’s being a hoarder. There’s a huge difference.

whitewineandsun · 29/05/2025 08:01

Delphigirl · 29/05/2025 07:54

Looking at it from the other way - Your complaints are about him throwing eg receipts and using things up too fast. Sounds to me like it is only him who is keeping you from descending into full - on hoarding. It’s an intractable psychological disorder. It is not acceptable to make anyone live with your hoard of crap, particularly in the bedroom. Doesn’t matter if it is on “your side” of the room. The fact that he is trying to keep a lid on it and to a manageable level is understandable. If you insist on hoarding in the house to the extent you want to, that will be the end of your relationship. Ask yourself if you would prefer your pile of crap or your relationship and then act accordingly.

This.

You both seem miserable and incompatible.

Nominative · 29/05/2025 08:02

Delphigirl · 29/05/2025 07:54

Looking at it from the other way - Your complaints are about him throwing eg receipts and using things up too fast. Sounds to me like it is only him who is keeping you from descending into full - on hoarding. It’s an intractable psychological disorder. It is not acceptable to make anyone live with your hoard of crap, particularly in the bedroom. Doesn’t matter if it is on “your side” of the room. The fact that he is trying to keep a lid on it and to a manageable level is understandable. If you insist on hoarding in the house to the extent you want to, that will be the end of your relationship. Ask yourself if you would prefer your pile of crap or your relationship and then act accordingly.

But seriously, what on earth is wrong with keeping receipts and not using things up too quickly? It's good practice to keep receipts, and it's up to the owner how long they take to use up a treat. Wanting to spread out your enjoyment of a Baileys is in no way symptomatic of psychological disorder.

The very fact that OP limits where she keeps her stuff to her study and her side of the bedroom demonstrates that this really is not the major issue you think it is. If it was, her stuff would be all over the house. If you think someone you love can't be allowed control even of those limited areas, frankly it's you who has a psychological problem with control.

whitewineandsun · 29/05/2025 08:04

butterfly55 · 29/05/2025 08:01

On the surface he sounds wrong, BUT in our house, DH is the hoarder and I am not, and I can tell you it's painful! DH has a room that's "his" - I've been asking him since 2019 to please, please tidy it up a bit. He always says he will, but never does. The other week, I did it when he was at work. I made a huge pile of stuff to be thrown/donated and let him check the pile before it went. Honestly it creeps all over the house though - he has 70 jackets and 104 bottles of spirit (he doesn't like spirits, but loves the bottles). The garage is full of shit - bikes he hasn't ridden in 17 years. It drives me mad, and makes me feel unwell at times. I have even thought about separating in order to have a tidier house. If all his "stuff" was gone, the house would be so serene. I don't want that though, so I just make the most of what I can. I am currently selling a lot of his stuff on Vinted (with his permission). You say you have "stuff" in the bedroom - DH doesn't and our room is lovely - can't you sort that out? At least have a tidy place to sleep!!

You must really love him. There's no way I could live like that.

GrowAway · 29/05/2025 08:05

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive

as with many threads on here, your issue is far bigger than the one you posted about. This is not about keeping a tidy home. This is about having a controlling and vindictive husband. I’m sorry OP.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 08:05

Riaanna · 29/05/2025 07:25

Glossing over the examples of stuff that he has thrown out? And honestly if gifts are just sitting around for months and months I don’t blame him for getting rid.

What, a single receipt for a recently-bought item, or clothes that need to go into the laundry or drawer rather than just be binned?

A present is a special something for you to enjoy as and when you want to (within reason). It isn't something to just 'use up' and get rid of.

There was a time when it was considered a good thing to eke out nice things and make them last. Savouring something luxurious over a few weeks - or keeping it for a special occasion - was seen as self-control; not hoarding. Children who scoffed all of their sweets in five minutes were told off; not praised for getting rid of them efficiently.

Nominative · 29/05/2025 08:06

OP, can you put a lock on your study? For me, having someone rootling around my work stuff could have quite serious repercussions, both in terms of my efficiency and business confidentiality, so it's perfectly clear to the whole family that they only get to go into my study to talk to to me, but not to touch or look at anything.

BunnyLake · 29/05/2025 08:07

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 29/05/2025 07:55

It really doesn't help that 'hoarding' is often thrown about flippantly to mean nothing of the sort - and just to grossly exaggerate a few things needing to be tidied away or dealt with.

The same as people who can't just acknowledge that they like things to be clean or done in a certain way, but rather they must be "a bit OCD".

Others will strongly disagree, but I think that the other end of the spectrum - maybe 'anti-hoarding' - can be a sign of mental health issues as well.

I know people who will grab a bin bag and just start binning everything with a robotic maniacal look in their eyes. Often perfectly good and useful stuff that they personally happen not to need or want at this moment will get flung straight into a bag for landfill as if it were plagued - not the faintest regard for recycling or giving away to somebody who needs it either.

I used to live with somebody (housemate at uni, not a partner) who would literally throw things in the bin after he'd used them and continually buy new ones when he inevitably needed them again a short while later. A used plate was not something to be washed up and put back into the cupboard to be used again for the next meal - it was 'rubbish' that had no immediate purpose (having just finished today's meal) and so it had to be thrown in the bin. A decent thick winter coat bought new a couple of months ago was 'rubbish', as the weather was now starting to get warmer; it didn't need to go back into the wardrobe ready for next winter, or even given to a charity shop, but rather it had to be binned.

He also threw food away wastefully: e.g. a packet of cakes with half a dozen in it, best before date some time into the future, would get binned after he'd eaten the one that he wanted right now. Keeping them in the cupboard to be enjoyed over the next few weeks - or even offering them to the other grateful people who lived there too when they got back in a few hours' time - would be 'hoarding', you see.

Edited

That sounds unhinged. I don’t envy anyone who ends up (or ended up) with him.

PurpleThistle7 · 29/05/2025 08:07

I think he’s abusive and also that you aren’t people who should be living together regardless. Your poor kids.

my husband is messier than I am. He has the office and I (mostly) leave him to it in there. He chooses a desk of chaos and I just close the door and try not to think about it. I wander around the house tidying his (and my children’s) stuff away but I do not throw things away without telling them. My kids both have all sorts of crap in their rooms that’s important to them and meaningless to me.

wondering if he does this to the kids as well.

whitewineandsun · 29/05/2025 08:07

her side of the bedroom

A bedroom is supposed to be a calm space to rest and sleep. It's probably not that if her 'stuff' takes up half the room.

I'd be sleeping elsewhere. But really it sounds like they shouldn't be together at all.

BuckChuckets · 29/05/2025 08:07

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

This is very worrying!

Gwenhwyfar · 29/05/2025 08:07

There are different levels of hoarding. I have relatives whose spare rooms are full of plastic bags full of crap. Doesn't sound like you're at that level OP.

Having a bottle of Baileys in the cupboard isn't hoarding and neither is having a lot of socks (I have a good reason for that!). So, for me, it does really matter how bad of a hoarder you are. Hoarding is part of a mental illness that needs to be treated in itself, not just via decluttering.

His attitude to the Baileys is also not normal.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/05/2025 08:10

CharnwoodFire · 29/05/2025 07:55

How slowly is slowly?

Some people think it's okay to keep Baileys for years and years - which is grim as its a dairy product.

Really it should be consumed within a few months.

It is actually fine to keep it for ages.

HTH.

Sillycally · 29/05/2025 08:10

I very rarely comment but feel the urge in this instance.

I'm very much like your OH, it's some kind of disorder that I have, I hate anything being out of place, a bit like the opposite of a hoarder, it manifested tenfold once kids, full time job etc came along.....

If it was up to my partner, he doesn't give a shit, he could happily let stuff lie around for goodness knows how long and it wouldn't affect him at all, so I therefore need to take control otherwise I would be completely overwhelmed by the disorganisation, resulting in me being a nightmare to live with!

I recommend that you have a place for everything, and put everything in its place, so if you have a set of small drawers in your study for instance, you would put your receipts etc in there.

A place for everything and everything in its place is a motto that I live by (along with never say something behind anyone's back that you wouldn't say to their face 😀)

I know this isn't really helpful so I suppose YANBU, but I can see your OH's point, I wish mine was a bit like that haha xx

Nominative · 29/05/2025 08:10

There's an interesting divide on this thread between tidiness freaks and others. I quite see that being a hoarder isn't desirable, but equally being so insistent on tidiness that everyone has to fall in with you and cannot be allowed to keep their own possessions in their own study or bedroom is hardly a good trait psychologically. What happened to mutual give-and-take?