To want my parcel - woman denying accepting it but I have a photo..

[BitOutOfPractice]

I ordered some stuff off sports direct (about £20 worth) and, because I haven’t ordered off there for a couple of years, stupidly got it sent to my old address which was stored on the web site. Yes I know it’s annoying and stupid so I don’t need that lecture.

So once I clocked on what had happened, I went round there to collect it - couple of days later. The woman who bought the house off me completely denies having received it, despite the courier’s photo showing it being accepted at the front door. I can see two sets of children’s feet at the door on the picture. I obviously recognise the doorstep - I lived there for nearly 20 years.

Please note, I did not shout or accuse, I was very polite, I said I was “puzzled” and that there must have been some sort of confusion but she was adamant she hadn’t had it. It was a shoe box sized parcel so not massive to store and not easy to lose either.

Do you clever lot have any idea if there’s anything I can do?

I half expected her to come to the door wearing my gym gear 😆

I rather liked it!

It is annoying when things go missing and people play dumb @BitOutOfPractice. It's not about the items or the value, it's selfish people thinking they can do what they want. The people in your former house probably thought there was nothing you could do about it. Maybe it'll make them think twice in future.

I wouldn't worry about wasting police time either. It's got to be straightforward for them. They have all the information that leads to where the parcel should be, and it's not there. If they didn't take it maybe the police investigation will clear them. That's what the police are there for.

Who the hell lets their kids answer the door? Are you joking?? We let our 6yo DC answer the door all the time. We're always within ear shot and as soon as it rings we'll move in that direction but she loves to do it and often gets there first.

What exactly do you think will happen when the kids answer the door? Unless you live somewhere seriously grim?

love it when an OP updates - thank you!

This is what I would do! You can restate the obvious that you have photo evidence that then children received the parcel and give them 48 hours to jog their kids’ memory about where the parcel might be. Leave your phone number (or offer to go there again in person). If no change in 48 hours, call the police and be insistent! I know it’s only £20 but it is WRONG to take other people’s belongings so they need to be taught a lesson

Sensational thread OP.

Justice is slow, but extremely gratifying! I hope the thief is shitting herself and her ill gotten leggings.

For the love of sanity, RTFT or the OP's posts at the very least

If she’d done that, I genuinely would’ve accepted that. I know the delivery was annoying. Any other explanation than “nope, never had them” would have been better.

@BitOutOfPractice she might have form for this, in which case you’re doing everyone a favour. People think this kind of crime is usually victimless but doorstep theft is not. I know you gave the wrong address but she would have known it wasn’t hers. Nobody I know would keep someone else’s parcel? This is her own fault.

Tell me you’ve not read the thread without telling me you’ve not read the thread 😳

This could turn into the new 'cancel the cheque' thread, OP. A landmark moment on MN

No matter HOW dull you think your commuter town, I doubt they’re spending person hours to build a possible court case over just £20? I have no idea what your parcel could possibly have gotten itself mixed up in, I admit [perhaps the police ‘attended’, and the lying lady of the (your) house was checking her massive marijuana grow while wearing your knockoff Seasalt sandals… until she got the blisters?], but I hope they don’t hold court over £20, and not even a mug, from SportDirect (the cut off should be £35 with or without mug or free shipping offers).

Not-so-HappyLols by the looks of it, let me tell you what often happens on MN… Some threads are many pages long. People read the first post and go through several replies until they come across one they really agree with. They want to bookmark it in a way, perhaps they feel thrilled that someone else thinks exactly like they do!! They feel pasionate about what’s happening to the OP. So without giving it much thought they quote that reply without realising that the thread had since moved on…
Other posters then come across the out of date reply and zoom past it in 2 seconds, potentially rolling their eye at the idiot who posted without reading the entire thread.
If you were so annoyed about wasting a few seconds scrolling though my irelevant post, then why did you waste even more time to message some about…sanity and RTFT - I don’t even know what that means!!!

I guess I made a ‘mistake’ and got carried away without reading every message in the thread, but you don’t have to become so acidic! If you’re very stressed by all these posts perhaps you need to take a break from MN

Right, I've only read yours posts op, but im here to say: good on you and good on the police.

Dishonest people think they can just nick parcels because what are you going to about it? Well, you've shown them what you'll do. And rightly so. Theft is theft. Maybe cases like this will stop small time fraud like this being so widespread and almost written off as something people should just accept.

The police are interested because it is a straightforward case and an easy conviction. It looks good on the crime statistics!

I do hope so. Should I start feeling the pride swelling?

This might be my favourite MN thread ever…..

But @Gabitule it really was a case of just reading the OP’s posts. It really was.

@5YearsLeft I am as amazed as you are. I lived in this town for 18 years and i I never heard even one person say “I tell you what, the police are shit hot on petty crime here!” Quite the opposite in fact.

you’re amazed as I am. The physical police station in the aforementioned town shuts t down 10 years ago.

Someone on a local social media has just put out a plea for anyone receiving his parcel because it had the wrong address on it.

It was so similar I have just sent them a short message about this on mumsnet so perhaps you might have given hope to more people.

Well done that lady!!

If only you'd spent the same amount of time reading OP's posts as writing this boring spiel... or at least noticed the date of the first one and realised there just may be a slight chance that in the 2 months that had past things may have moved on a bit 😂

It isn't just for £20 is it? It is a principle of British law and it is happening so much now that the police have to take it seriously. If they do not, it could be the courier who takes things, and that is just awful, and must be stopped too.

Something similar happened to me and it was only a few pounds, and because of that I did not report it, yet I knew where the parcel went and should have done. The buyer on ebay had two addresses registered and I put her old address on the package. It was delivered to her old address just a few streets away, yet she refused to collect it, even though I had proof of delivery.

She maintained that it was up to me to get the item to her and it wasn't her place to collect it. I spent money writing to the resident of her old address and included a stamped parcel bag inside, but nothing turned up. I never received the item back.

I suspect it might be that your complaint is part of a bigger crime, the woman might be known to the police and added your crime to the other ones to be able to bring a persecution. This happened to me once.

My Mum was scammed on her door step by a man asking for money to pay his train fare to get the train to Leeds to collect the body of his wife who had died there! She fell for it but on turning round to find her purse she shut the door then forgot about him! She did have Alzheimer’s and we’d installed a door camera to keep an eye on her so had a recording.

As I was driving to Mums that evening to cook her tea I spotted a couple of police walking near by and stopped to chat to them and showed them the video. They knew the man as he was local and often seen begging for money or shop lifting to fund his drug addiction. I gave them a copy of the video and a few weeks later was asked to go to court as a witness, along with some other people who had reported him. Mine was good evidence due to the video so it was shown in the court room but I was not actually called as a witness as the magistrates referred the case to the Crown Court based on other evidence. When he later appeared in court, the evidence I provided, together with other cases, were kind of lumped together to get him a longer sentence. The police were very grateful for the recording as he could not deny the offence like e did some other ones.

I’m in the states, so not sure if this applies. But had an expensive item delivered to me ($300) and after the courier photographed that it was delivered, it was stolen from outside my door. We checked the cameras and there was a guy on camera come into the building and take it. The product company had some kind of insurance because they had a process of replacing the item — if you have a police report. They sent me a new one after they fully fulfilled their duty of delivering the item to my home. I’d talk to the seller.

A stolen parcel and a possible court case. I'm definitely invested 😆

I once found the remnants of three mail order parcels in my garden.

Handed them in at the local police station where the desk sergeant proceeded to take the piss out of me: “Was it not your size love?”

A fortnight later, a policewoman came to my door with Polaroids of the parcels. Could I identify them as those I’d found?

Someone had robbed a post office van and my insignificant find was going to be used as evidence in court.

I’m guessing that those who reckon that the OP’s case is part of something bigger are right.