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Child surname

123 replies

Maggiem92 · 24/05/2025 19:31

Thoughts please…. son’s wife went behind his back and registered their baby with her surname despite him asking her not to

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Springadorable · 24/05/2025 19:32

Doesn't sound like she's planning on having a husband for much longer.

Onedayiwillsomething · 24/05/2025 19:33

What did he want? His name and was he refusing to consider hers. If they couldn’t come to an agreement I don’t blame her tbh.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/05/2025 19:35

Did he want his name? Why did she feel like she had to go behind his back as opposed to just talking with him about it?

Fuzzypinetree · 24/05/2025 19:35

How does that work? Do they have different surnames?
DD has ex's surname because it was the family name when she was born. I couldn't have just put my maiden name down. (I have no intention of going back to my maiden name once the divorce is finalised, either...)
Did she perhaps think it sounds better? I can't see a reason for doing that.

SkibidiSigma · 24/05/2025 19:36

Are they actually married? I know you say wife but just checking

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:37

Fuzzypinetree · 24/05/2025 19:35

How does that work? Do they have different surnames?
DD has ex's surname because it was the family name when she was born. I couldn't have just put my maiden name down. (I have no intention of going back to my maiden name once the divorce is finalised, either...)
Did she perhaps think it sounds better? I can't see a reason for doing that.

Maybe she didn't change her name when she got married? Is that an alien concept to you?
You could have given your child your surname by the way - it's still yours even if you changed it on marriage. You could have given the child a completely random surname too if you'd wanted!

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:37

SkibidiSigma · 24/05/2025 19:36

Are they actually married? I know you say wife but just checking

What difference does it make?

TeenToTwenties · 24/05/2025 19:37

If they can't agree on the surname then I don't give the marriage much hope; in which case using her surname sounds quite sensible from her point of view.

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:38

OP obviously it's not ok for either parent to unilaterally decide on a child's name assuming the parents are together and it's usually a decent relationship. However without context we don't know why she did this, so it's impossible to comment.

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:39

ZepherinDrouhin · 24/05/2025 19:37

He can add his surname to double barrel it before the baby's 1st birthday.

https://www.gov.uk/correct-birth-registration

Not without her consent he can't

Onedayiwillsomething · 24/05/2025 19:39

ZepherinDrouhin · 24/05/2025 19:37

He can add his surname to double barrel it before the baby's 1st birthday.

https://www.gov.uk/correct-birth-registration

Only if she agrees, which I bet she won’t given the fact she felt she had to go and register the birth alone

ChildrenOfTheQuorn · 24/05/2025 19:40

Was he refusing to double barrel?

Mightyhike · 24/05/2025 19:41

I think that if a couple can't decide, it's better to go with the mum's surname, as she is more likely to be the resident parent if they split up.

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2025 19:45

YABU. It's got fuck all to do with you and your grandchild doesn't automatically belong to your son.

They've split up haven't they?

KumquatHigh · 24/05/2025 19:47

Just because he asked her to doesn’t mean she has to comply. It doesn’t really sound like the marriage is going to work out anyway so it’s probably for the best that the baby has her mother’s surname.

ZepherinDrouhin · 24/05/2025 19:50

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:39

Not without her consent he can't

Very deceptive of her to register the baby without his consent knowing there was a disagreement about the surname. Both parents have equal rights and they should have worked something out.

Fuzzypinetree · 24/05/2025 19:51

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:37

Maybe she didn't change her name when she got married? Is that an alien concept to you?
You could have given your child your surname by the way - it's still yours even if you changed it on marriage. You could have given the child a completely random surname too if you'd wanted!

Actually, I couldn't have. We don't live in the UK and DD wasn't born in the UK. She automatically got the family surname because her father and I were married when she was born. That's how the law works here.
I also couldn't just give her any random, ridiculous first name.

Sorry, that the idea that a family has a shared "family" name is so alien to you. I would expect a married couple to sort out the name issue before registering the baby.

Willyoujustbequiet · 24/05/2025 19:53

Wise woman giving a child her own name.

CatsorDogsrule · 24/05/2025 19:58

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:37

What difference does it make?

If they are not married, the father won't be on the birth certificate unless he attended the registration appointment. If married, his details could be included without attending.

This would be an interesting point to clarify, but doesn't have a bearing on the reasonableness of the choice of surname.

If they couldn't agree, I can understand why she registered with her name but this should have been decided and agreed beforehand. It doesn't bode well for the relationship if they couldn't agree and she had to make this choice unilaterally.

FortyElephants · 24/05/2025 19:59

Fuzzypinetree · 24/05/2025 19:51

Actually, I couldn't have. We don't live in the UK and DD wasn't born in the UK. She automatically got the family surname because her father and I were married when she was born. That's how the law works here.
I also couldn't just give her any random, ridiculous first name.

Sorry, that the idea that a family has a shared "family" name is so alien to you. I would expect a married couple to sort out the name issue before registering the baby.

Why are you commenting as if your situation is universal in that case when mumsnet is a predominantly UK site and most users are in the UK? You asked the question as if you couldn't comprehend any other way of doing things than the way you did it. Clearly that's not how things work here!

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/05/2025 20:00

Fuzzypinetree · 24/05/2025 19:51

Actually, I couldn't have. We don't live in the UK and DD wasn't born in the UK. She automatically got the family surname because her father and I were married when she was born. That's how the law works here.
I also couldn't just give her any random, ridiculous first name.

Sorry, that the idea that a family has a shared "family" name is so alien to you. I would expect a married couple to sort out the name issue before registering the baby.

They clearly couldn't come to an agreement for whatever reason and baby does need to be registered. She should've told him but I suppose it depends on the reason why she felt like she couldn't.

Not everyone wants to have a shared family name, especially if it involves giving up your own name and your child not having that name either.

JudgeBread · 24/05/2025 20:02

I suspect all is not well in your son's marriage. Not sure what's giving me that idea. Call it intuition. Saw something in the stars. My left big toe is itching.

Give sympathy from a distance, and tell your son he needs to discuss this with his wife.

pinkyredrose · 24/05/2025 20:04

So what exactly is the problem?

Olika · 24/05/2025 20:04

My thoughts… this marriage won’t last.