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AIBU?

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To cancel DD’s dance comp after what she said to her little brother?

669 replies

Blondra · 24/05/2025 18:12

Bit of a long one, sorry in advance.

Had a nightmare of an afternoon. Was rushing around trying to get everything sorted for tomorrow, eldest (11, Yr 7) has a dance comp she’s been banging on about for weeks. Spent half my bloody life glueing gems to a crop top she INSISTED she had to have.

Anyway, little one (8) accidentally knocked over a glass of juice and it went all over said top. He was already in tears, bless him, before she absolutely LOST it and called him “a freak who ruins everything” right in front of me.

I told her she was being horrible and she needed to apologise. She rolled her eyes and said “he is though” then stormed upstairs slamming doors.

I was fuming and told her she’s not going to the comp now. Cue full meltdown, crying, saying I’ve ruined her life etc. Now she’s sulking in her room, hasn’t come down since.

Partner thinks I’ve gone too far and should’ve just sent her tomorrow and “had a word” but I’m sick of her attitude and the way she treats her brother. He’s not easy, no, but he’s her sibling and it’s not on.

AIBU to follow through and not let her go? Or have I made it worse now by cancelling it when she’s been looking forward to it for months?

I just want to do the right thing but feel like I can’t win sometimes.

OP posts:
Arran2024 · 27/05/2025 09:50

godmum56 · 27/05/2025 08:47

in this circumstance, and from what we know, I would say the OP. 8 years old even in an NT child is a bit young to think of it without being trained to do so and I am thinking from what we know that if the 11 YO had tried to dictate to her younger brother that would have got nowhere. I don't think we know enough to say whether the juice spill was "accidental done on purpose" but the fact remains that if the juice and the top had not been on the same table at the same time, it wouldn't have happened.

That's why the sensible thing to do is for the mother to take responsibility for the whole sorry mess. She wasn't monitoring the top/ juice situation. These are kids and things happen, either by chance or deliberately. But OP puts all the blame on her daughter. That's just unreasonable.

godmum56 · 27/05/2025 09:53

Arran2024 · 27/05/2025 09:50

That's why the sensible thing to do is for the mother to take responsibility for the whole sorry mess. She wasn't monitoring the top/ juice situation. These are kids and things happen, either by chance or deliberately. But OP puts all the blame on her daughter. That's just unreasonable.

Totally agree.

Mookie81 · 27/05/2025 10:36

Daisyblue2 · 26/05/2025 17:00

I did not say she should not be corrected. But thats different to punishment. Yes talk to her .and no not everyone would be annoyed about gemming a costume, it all part of supporting your child in an activity you allowed them to do. If you cant be bothered to do what it take then dont let them start at all

black and white girls GIF

That poster sounds like Grady from The Shining 'correcting' his kids!

Vanishedwillow · 27/05/2025 13:06

Flashahah · 26/05/2025 21:46

🤣🤣🤣🤣

There’s nothing amusing about my job, believe me. I’ve worked hard to get where I am and love it, even though it’s incredibly mentally and emotionally draining at times.
Either way, I was responding to a different poster, so I’m not sure what your emojis add to the discussion.

Flashahah · 27/05/2025 13:18

Vanishedwillow · 27/05/2025 13:06

There’s nothing amusing about my job, believe me. I’ve worked hard to get where I am and love it, even though it’s incredibly mentally and emotionally draining at times.
Either way, I was responding to a different poster, so I’m not sure what your emojis add to the discussion.

I’m not laughing at your “job”, I’m laughing at the fact that you expect a forum full of people to believe you. When you display such rage and all the UPPER CASE LETTERS and projection.

I’m not sure about the profile of a child psychologist is, but you don’t strike me as fitting the bill.

Also, when you comment on a forum, it’s public, anyone can respond to your comments, even if you “think” you’re responding to someone else. It’s public, so you’re not.

Vanishedwillow · 27/05/2025 13:20

Yes, I stated this based on the affectionate language choices OP uses for DS (little one, bless him etc) compared with the hostile language she uses for DD (banging on, spent half my bloody life glueing gems to a crop top she INSISTED she had to have etc) as though DD is a nuisance. She also seems hell bent on punishing her for something which may or may not have been an accident, while DS doesn’t even get a talking to.

OP also said DS was not easy and takes most of her time and energy. Most posters agree OP should not neglect elder child who clearly feels silenced and ignored, not punishment.

Vanishedwillow · 27/05/2025 13:31

Flashahah · 27/05/2025 13:18

I’m not laughing at your “job”, I’m laughing at the fact that you expect a forum full of people to believe you. When you display such rage and all the UPPER CASE LETTERS and projection.

I’m not sure about the profile of a child psychologist is, but you don’t strike me as fitting the bill.

Also, when you comment on a forum, it’s public, anyone can respond to your comments, even if you “think” you’re responding to someone else. It’s public, so you’re not.

Well, the profiles of child psychologists are probably as varied as they are in your organisation or profession.
Of course you’re welcome to comment, I just wasn’t sure what the laughing emojis meant.

Flashahah · 27/05/2025 13:39

Vanishedwillow · 27/05/2025 13:31

Well, the profiles of child psychologists are probably as varied as they are in your organisation or profession.
Of course you’re welcome to comment, I just wasn’t sure what the laughing emojis meant.

Well I’ve straightened that out, so all is good.

Pinty · 27/05/2025 13:40

Flashahah · 27/05/2025 08:24

So whose responsibility was it to move the juice?

The mother's

CaptainFuture · 27/05/2025 13:55

Vanishedwillow · 27/05/2025 13:20

Yes, I stated this based on the affectionate language choices OP uses for DS (little one, bless him etc) compared with the hostile language she uses for DD (banging on, spent half my bloody life glueing gems to a crop top she INSISTED she had to have etc) as though DD is a nuisance. She also seems hell bent on punishing her for something which may or may not have been an accident, while DS doesn’t even get a talking to.

OP also said DS was not easy and takes most of her time and energy. Most posters agree OP should not neglect elder child who clearly feels silenced and ignored, not punishment.

Absolutely this, between this thread and the one with the hostile dde who the OP is complicit the bullying of dd1, I wonder if the ops ever think forward, as to whether or not they're bothered that there will likely be absolutely no relationship between the siblings as adults, and likely the dd in this situation and dd1 in the other, will move out, and see no reason to come and visit much. Or will the ops expect the maligned child to take on the pandering to the golden one?

Vanishedwillow · 27/05/2025 14:21

Flashahah · 27/05/2025 13:39

Well I’ve straightened that out, so all is good.

Yes, indeed. You were the only one questioning my profession, but other than uploading a copy of my doctorate or HCPC registration (which I have no intention of doing), I’m not sure what motive you think I would have for lying about it.

AliceMcK · 27/05/2025 22:10

llizzie · 26/05/2025 18:27

It would worry me to go over and over something that has been dealt with, like a court session and appeal if the sentence is too harsh.

As I said before, I punish mine for lying. Everything else is a mistake, apologised for, and forgiven.

If you have meetings to decide what punishments are appropriate for what misdemeanour, at least then the children know what to expect if they do wrong, so that there are no inquests/post mortems/appeal courts after the fact.

The issue would not be dealt with though, if emotions are high we walk away and calm down before coming back together to talk. We need to this especially with our middle dd as she can have a major meltdown by the slightest thing sometimes so we de-escalate and all calm down before talking things through.

it’s not a court session, quite often we will talk to each child separately, get their versions, sometimes it’s everyone together, we do what’s comfortable for them at the time. DH and I will dish out punishments if we feel needed but have found that by letting our DDs talk about what’s happened, why and do they think it warrants a punishment we have had far fewer fights between them, boundaries are talked about and agreed between everyone and definitely far more respect unlike when DH and I have said don’t do this and that.

We only got here by failing in many other ways, it’s working for us so I’m happy to keep it up.

VineandIvy · 29/05/2025 23:54

Ok so firstly you sound annoyed that you had to stick gems on her top, but your son spilling juice is ‘bless him’ moment.

It sounds like serious bias here.

You are expecting an 11 year old (pre puberty with hormones surging) to have the emotional regulation of an adult, mean while you infantilise your 8 year old son from any and all accountability, as if he’s only a toddler.

How about you actually demonstrate emotional regulation as an adult? Hold a family meeting and firstly apologise yourself for your emotional reaction, then get the kids to apologise and make up.

I’d also get younger brother to go to the competition and cheer big sister on. Family moral will do more in this situation than petty punishments

CaraMP01 · 30/05/2025 11:06

The whole point of being a grown-up is knowing how to be reasonable and put things into perspective. Son was careless , daughter was stressed and excited. You're there to restore calm and harmony which includes apologies from both to each other and a swift resolution including you whisking her off to the competition. It's not rocket science.

mummyflumms · 30/05/2025 17:08

Blondra · 24/05/2025 19:12

Thanks everyone, appreciate the replies.

I know I probably went too far, it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience. She has worked hard and I know how much it means to her, I just really struggled with how nasty she was in that moment. It wasn’t just the top, it was the way she looked at him and said it, like she hated him.

By “not easy” I mean he can be full on. He’s got some stuff going on, we’re waiting on assessments, and he does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide.

You’re all right though — taking away the comp would probably just make her feel worse and not actually teach her anything. I’ll speak to her properly, make sure she gets how hurtful that was and that she needs to apologise properly to both of us.

Will find another punishment that actually makes sense and doesn’t hurt something she’s worked for.

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again.

Yes I am genuinely gobsmacked that a child saying something mean with a mean face during a warranted emotional outburst to their sibling is somehow worse than cancelling a literal dance competition the child has been working towards for years - not just in the weeks running up to the huge event - years of her life’s work towards something like this. Are we all such snowflakes now we teach our children to throw away their dreams because someone’s feelings might get hurt just once? Toughen up and sort out your priorities. Your children will do very very poorly in life if they can’t bear to face a single mean word or a meaningless nasty look here and there. They’re at an age they need to start practising conflict resolution to set themselves up for adult life. They’re not toddlers anymore who need their favourite stuffed toy taken away to teach them right from wrong. You need to adapt to their changes, and fast.

Endorewitch · 08/06/2025 17:46

Shocked you need ask.
My sympathies with DD. She has been training and looking forward to this for months.
No wonder the poor child reacted as she did. !!Can't believe you can be so unkind. I agree with your partner 110%
Sounds as if the boy is your favourite .

FluentOP · 09/10/2025 20:00

GMH1974 · 24/05/2025 18:14

I think everyone sounds a bit stressed about the competition, your daughter especially. I think you'll regret it if you pull her out although she does need to sincerely apologise to her brother and to you.

Yes, I agree. She’s been looking forward to it and is getting stressed.

godmum56 · 09/10/2025 20:41

zzzzzzzzombieeeeeee

KumquatHigh · 09/10/2025 20:43

FluentOP · 09/10/2025 20:00

Yes, I agree. She’s been looking forward to it and is getting stressed.

The dance competition was on May 25th. It’s October 9th now.

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