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Husband too defensive of SIL

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birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 14:50

DH and I have been married for about 5 years. Since before we were even married, DH seemed strangely close to his brother's wife. At first I thought nothing of this, until I met her. SIL is the ultimate "mean girl." She is in love with herself, brags about everything, especially things she knows she has that I may not, constantly looking for flattery from both her husband and mine, and since the day I met her pretends I am not in the room. She won't speak to me or eye contact but only talks to the men, like she is holding court with how adorable she is. She is very spoiled. She grew up with money and refused to work a day in her life, even before kids. She is an expert at making little comments and jabs at me that the men are completely oblivious to and then sitting with a satisfied smile while I silently stew. They are literally completely oblivious of everything about her.

DH did nothing but sing her praises from before I even met her, and I kept my opinions about her to myself for the first couple years of our marriage, even when visit after visit, she exhibited this nasty behavior. Less than a week after I found out I was pregnant (and having some early complications), DH jumped on a plane to go support SIL when her father died. Since the day I have met him, he calls her family "his family" and it took years before I got him to understand that her family are his brother's in-laws, and even then he was only able to consider this as a possibility when I asked, "Well, does your brother consider my parents to be HIS family?" His brother expects my husband to drop everything when his wife has some new drama good or bad, but I/we have had our own problems (health scares, pet deaths, etc) over the years and we have never looked to the brother for any sort of sympathy or support, nor would he be bothered to offer it. When we had our first child, DH did not get me flowers but a year later, when his brother's wife had their first baby, he sent her flowers to the hospital. I was furious and at this point, I let my feelings be known. It all came out and caused a huge argument. DH absolutely doesn't see my side of this, thinks so highly of his brother's wife, scoffed when I gave examples of nasty things SIL has said, and refused to even consider the validity of my feelings until I finally said that I refused to spend any more time with this woman. That he can see them on his own.

Now his entire family hates me, because of course, SIL was the original wife and I am the one who shunned their little darling. Her husband adores her and clearly, mine does too! She can do NO wrong in their eyes. DH and I have had a strained marriage in general, and it's so upsetting to me that she is Miss Perfect in his eyes while I am the person he argues with. A large part of the source of our arguments is that he has accused me of having such a problem with his family, when I am simply responding to the way I have been treated by them! I have expressed countless times how excited I was to finally get a sister/SIL, only to feel like I was shunned from day one, but DH views it as me vs his family and by his family, he means his brother's wife, too. I just feel like they made me the outcast and my DH has not helped matters.

OP posts:
Oriunda · 23/05/2025 15:57

I feel your pain. My BIL wife is the chief wife in DH family, but luckily DH isn’t under her thrall. She’s an expert at the sly digs, but I’ve learnt to a) not trust her and b) not let her get under my skin. His family don’t like me (there are cultural differences at play here, as I’m not from their country), but I don’t care and just ignore them all.

We too have to spend the larger holidays such as Christmas and Easter with her family, and her extended family such as her SIL’s parents. Luckily we don’t live in their country, so it’s not a constant thing.

DublinLaLaLa · 23/05/2025 15:58

Worryabouteverything · 23/05/2025 15:00

@AyeDeadOn yes it nice that he sent flowers but have you missed the point that he didn't send his OWN WIFE flowers when she had his child.

DH didn’t get me flowers after either of our children being born. I would have found it odd. I wanted practical help not gifts!

FuckityFux · 23/05/2025 15:59

Yes OP, it’s clearly a shit situation and the majority of posters agree that YANBU.

However, as plenty of posters have already pointed out, he was like this BEFORE you married him and went and had a child together.

Did you honestly think he’d suddenly wake up one day and completely change his personality and centre you instead of her?

Surely you must see that there’s absolutely nothing you can do that will change this situation to one where you feel completely loved and cherished by your DH.

You could try issuing ultimatums, leaving him for a few weeks etc. but I doubt that will have any lasting effect because his behaviours are deeply ingrained in his psyche.

The only thing you have the power to change is yourself.

Do you want to live the rest of your life in her shadow or are you strong enough to get out of this relationship and go it alone (which you are probably already doing to an extent)?

If you were my best friend, I’d be helping you make plans to leave. Despite what the movies tell you, wishing hard enough for something won’t make it happen, and do you really want to look back in 10/20 years and realise that you’ve wasted your life with a man who isn’t worthy of you?

survivalinsufficient · 23/05/2025 16:00

If he’s known her 10 years before you got married she IS going to be his family - sounds like they knew each other from very young? Me and my husband have been together since we were 20, and his sister and her husband got together at the same time so we’ve all grown up together and gone through so many life stages and events - BIL and I are family in a way my husband’s other siblings partners who are all much newer just aren’t. It’s hard for them sometimes I think, and I am conscious of it, but it’s impossible to avoid.

Pigeon31 · 23/05/2025 16:01

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:06

Yes, the brother is a big problem because since the very beginning, the brother has been constantly calling my husband over anything going in their lives, expecting DH to prioritize his wife because this was the dynamic since the day he started dating her. I told DH, it's like the entire family has failed to accept that you have your OWN wife now!

Does your OH tend to do what his brother tells him also? Because that might be the key dynamic here and SiL more of a symptom.

5128gap · 23/05/2025 16:03

This woman may be awful, but its important to remember, your husband's (frankly weird) behaviour is all on him. No matter how much she enjoys and encourages his attention, a man with healthy feelings towards his brothers wife would not act this way. The whole dynamic between the brothers is off, with his brother seemingly enjoying having a wife your husband is also in love with. I'm really not sure there's much hope in this situation as I genuinely can't see what would change things. Yourbhusband has accepted the role of fawning unrequited lover and played it for many years, prioritising it over you. You could issue an ultimatum whereby he distances himself or you leave, but frankly, I'd have my bags ready, because I doubt he'll comply.

Theunamedcat · 23/05/2025 16:05

How does she react to your child?

Did your bil send you flowers after you gave birth?

Toootss · 23/05/2025 16:05

Where are your family?
how old are you all - as Mil ages dynamics might change.
why do you live so near.
i would say get your own life separate from this bunch
tell DH you don’t want to hear updates on SIL/bil
Start your own fun life, start your own interests, more time with DCs, new hobbies, make sure you are secure financially
why are you seeing so much of her?

If you are still struggling with your marriage consider divorce - they won’t change -you have to -nothing would annoy her more than to see you happy and successful.

PullTheBricksDown · 23/05/2025 16:05

How easy would it be to avoid all contact with her? Are all family gatherings big get togethers with her included, or could you just go along when it's only your own family visiting the in laws? Or you could just step back from the whole thing and let DH go. If you're not there, she can't make digs at you.

The other question is how much this taints your own family time. Would your DH let you and his child down if SIL clicked her fingers? That's a bigger issue for me and would lead me to think splitting is the only way forward.

ginasevern · 23/05/2025 16:05

Apart from the fact that your DH fancies the pants of his SIL, this is generally a very weird family dynamic. What sort of bloke wants to hear a blow by blow account when a woman, not his wife, is in labour. Why is he expected to rush to her aid when she has a perfectly capable husband of her own, and is financially secure. As I said, he obviously wants to get in her knickers but the whole thing sounds fucking bonkers. Personally, I couldn't live like this.

ioveelephants · 23/05/2025 16:08

I think you sound jealous. My family see my husband as family we’ve been together a long time and if my sisters new husband started slagging him off im sure she would stick up for my husband aswell. You’re basically saying you hate her because your husband likes her. 😂

Toootss · 23/05/2025 16:09

Did you read the OP?

LoveFridaynight · 23/05/2025 16:10

AyeDeadOn · 23/05/2025 14:58

I don't find it at all unusual for a brother in law to go to support his brothers family when his wife's parent dies or send flowers when they have a baby. That these are the most concrete example you've given of unreasonableness makes me wonder whether you're not a bit unreasonable.

It's unusual when your own wife is suffering early complications during pregnancy. I wouldn't be wasting any more time on him or his family.
Tell him to go live with his brother and his wife if she's so wonderful while you find a man who deserves you.

PurpleThistle7 · 23/05/2025 16:12

Im not sure what you’re looking for. Clearly at this point you need to live with it or walk away from it. It’s not going to change.

OhBow · 23/05/2025 16:17

Marriage counselling might help your dh see reason. You've mentioned a couple of times that he's tried to draw a line, but failed. He seems enmeshed/brainwashed.

That's the only thing I can thonk of other than to end it, as I doubt he'll spontaneously change. Horrible situation for you.

Tubbled · 23/05/2025 16:19

AyeDeadOn · 23/05/2025 15:04

Again, I don't find that all that unusual either. I've 3 kids. When they were born we both had more on our plates than thinking of flowers. I have no idea whether my husband sent flowers when his siblings had babies but I wouldn't find it odd or upsetting or a reason for jealousy if he did.

Same. I would find it odd if my husband sent me flowers after I had our baby. There was so much more to think about when we had a newborn in the house, I did not need flowers. It makes far more sense to send flowers to a family member or friend.

ForFunGoose · 23/05/2025 16:21

Sounds like there is a pair of ye in it!!
Ye have nothing in common except ye are married to brothers. Your DH treats her like a sister because she was in his life for years before you met him. I only see a clash of personalities ,she is being playful/bitchy with and you are taking it WAY too seriously.

You don’t have to compete or take things so personally! Why do you care so much? Are you actually jealous because her marriage is happy and yours is not?

AyeDeadOn · 23/05/2025 16:30

LoveFridaynight · 23/05/2025 16:10

It's unusual when your own wife is suffering early complications during pregnancy. I wouldn't be wasting any more time on him or his family.
Tell him to go live with his brother and his wife if she's so wonderful while you find a man who deserves you.

Depends what the complications were and how serious, I suppose.

RockOrAHardplace · 23/05/2025 16:32

AyeDeadOn · 23/05/2025 14:58

I don't find it at all unusual for a brother in law to go to support his brothers family when his wife's parent dies or send flowers when they have a baby. That these are the most concrete example you've given of unreasonableness makes me wonder whether you're not a bit unreasonable.

Really? So you just found out you are pregnant and there are complications and your husband gets on plane to go support his SIL upon the death of her futher who presumably has her husband with her? You don't find that strange?

She gives birth to his child and gets nothing but he send his SIL flowers when she has a child.....that's not normal, its not prioritising his wife and kids is it?

RealEagle · 23/05/2025 16:36

So how much longer are you going to put up with it?Tell your husband to move in with them as they come first.

quartile · 23/05/2025 16:36

Who funds the SIL lifestyle now, is it still her family wealth? - if this is very large then people can be blinded by this.

Family dynamics can be strange, what was the family structure while growing up? did your husband spend lots of time supporting / helping his brother. Sounds like this could have been extended onto his brothers wife when she came on the scene

EdisinBurgh · 23/05/2025 16:39

I think you should do a charm offensive and become best friends with her.

Get closer to her than your husband.

Then you control the relationship overall and will increase your status with the in laws.

A superficial but active friendship with her might be preferable to the Cold War, including for your marriage.

Controversial idea perhaps - and so just an idea!

Hwi · 23/05/2025 16:41

You love him more than he loves you. In love, as my gran used to say, in a marriage there is always a lover and a lovee, it is never equal, somebody always loves more or less. This is normal, no problem. The problem arises when the lovee in one marriage starts to love/pay more attention to/admire/ etc. somebody outside of the marriage more. This is a real problem and you can't resolve it because it is now between that woman and your husband. I would just leave - this is non-mendable.

ForFunGoose · 23/05/2025 16:42

EdisinBurgh · 23/05/2025 16:39

I think you should do a charm offensive and become best friends with her.

Get closer to her than your husband.

Then you control the relationship overall and will increase your status with the in laws.

A superficial but active friendship with her might be preferable to the Cold War, including for your marriage.

Controversial idea perhaps - and so just an idea!

Or be a grown up, stop competing and don’t control anyone!

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 23/05/2025 16:44

DublinLaLaLa · 23/05/2025 15:58

DH didn’t get me flowers after either of our children being born. I would have found it odd. I wanted practical help not gifts!

Same, I didn’t know it was a thing for your DH to buy you flowers after having a baby? No one else on my hospital wards seemed to have any either? But it seems normal to send flowers as a gift to a family member when they have a baby.

Im going to go with the OP being very jealous of the SIL, we only have her side of any of this she is probably projecting a lot of this, I don’t get along with either or my SIL’s we just tolerate each other, they could probably write posts about how awful I am and vice versa b it the reality is we just don’t get along, none of us are actually horrible people.

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