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Husband too defensive of SIL

292 replies

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 14:50

DH and I have been married for about 5 years. Since before we were even married, DH seemed strangely close to his brother's wife. At first I thought nothing of this, until I met her. SIL is the ultimate "mean girl." She is in love with herself, brags about everything, especially things she knows she has that I may not, constantly looking for flattery from both her husband and mine, and since the day I met her pretends I am not in the room. She won't speak to me or eye contact but only talks to the men, like she is holding court with how adorable she is. She is very spoiled. She grew up with money and refused to work a day in her life, even before kids. She is an expert at making little comments and jabs at me that the men are completely oblivious to and then sitting with a satisfied smile while I silently stew. They are literally completely oblivious of everything about her.

DH did nothing but sing her praises from before I even met her, and I kept my opinions about her to myself for the first couple years of our marriage, even when visit after visit, she exhibited this nasty behavior. Less than a week after I found out I was pregnant (and having some early complications), DH jumped on a plane to go support SIL when her father died. Since the day I have met him, he calls her family "his family" and it took years before I got him to understand that her family are his brother's in-laws, and even then he was only able to consider this as a possibility when I asked, "Well, does your brother consider my parents to be HIS family?" His brother expects my husband to drop everything when his wife has some new drama good or bad, but I/we have had our own problems (health scares, pet deaths, etc) over the years and we have never looked to the brother for any sort of sympathy or support, nor would he be bothered to offer it. When we had our first child, DH did not get me flowers but a year later, when his brother's wife had their first baby, he sent her flowers to the hospital. I was furious and at this point, I let my feelings be known. It all came out and caused a huge argument. DH absolutely doesn't see my side of this, thinks so highly of his brother's wife, scoffed when I gave examples of nasty things SIL has said, and refused to even consider the validity of my feelings until I finally said that I refused to spend any more time with this woman. That he can see them on his own.

Now his entire family hates me, because of course, SIL was the original wife and I am the one who shunned their little darling. Her husband adores her and clearly, mine does too! She can do NO wrong in their eyes. DH and I have had a strained marriage in general, and it's so upsetting to me that she is Miss Perfect in his eyes while I am the person he argues with. A large part of the source of our arguments is that he has accused me of having such a problem with his family, when I am simply responding to the way I have been treated by them! I have expressed countless times how excited I was to finally get a sister/SIL, only to feel like I was shunned from day one, but DH views it as me vs his family and by his family, he means his brother's wife, too. I just feel like they made me the outcast and my DH has not helped matters.

OP posts:
birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:24

MIL called DH each week of SIL's pregnancy to give him detailed updates, including then hourly updates on her labor and childbirth!

He thinks this is normal. I do not.

Also, none of them asked about my pregnancy, and I wouldn't have wanted DH to share the details, either!

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 23/05/2025 15:29

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:24

MIL called DH each week of SIL's pregnancy to give him detailed updates, including then hourly updates on her labor and childbirth!

He thinks this is normal. I do not.

Also, none of them asked about my pregnancy, and I wouldn't have wanted DH to share the details, either!

So, are you going to put up with this for the rest of your life?

survivalinsufficient · 23/05/2025 15:30

My in-laws family are my family - I have an extended family relationship with them, we go to each others big life events and keep in touch and I have supported my BIL through the death of his Mother. I always grew up like that - my cousins ‘other’ grandparents and cousins etc. were a big part of my life and vice versa. Maybe this is a cultural thing?

yeesh · 23/05/2025 15:30

Is this supposed to be Megan and Harry lol

SillySeal · 23/05/2025 15:31

This is not where near a normal dynamic.

OP, are you going to put your foot down with it at any point as your DH seems either oblivious or simply does not care about your feelings.

It does sound like he's in love with her but all the weirder that his brother doesn't have an issue with how involved your DH is with his wife!

FigsOfFury · 23/05/2025 15:31

This is not a normal relationship (you and your husband, or his relationship with his brother and wife)

Do yourself the biggest favour you can and get out. Someone out there will love you as you deserve to be loved, will put you first and have your back. Your ‘D’H is not that person. I am sorry though, this must be an awful situation to be in xx

Shatteredallthetimelately · 23/05/2025 15:32

What does she have that you may not?

Doesn't have to work? Material things?

ItGhoul · 23/05/2025 15:33

DH and I have had a strained marriage in general

I'm not surprised.

FigsOfFury · 23/05/2025 15:33

survivalinsufficient · 23/05/2025 15:30

My in-laws family are my family - I have an extended family relationship with them, we go to each others big life events and keep in touch and I have supported my BIL through the death of his Mother. I always grew up like that - my cousins ‘other’ grandparents and cousins etc. were a big part of my life and vice versa. Maybe this is a cultural thing?

Regardless of any cultural differences, this man’s own wife should be his priority and very clearly isn’t.

survivalinsufficient · 23/05/2025 15:34

@FigsOfFury oh yeah 100%, there’s clearly a lot more going on here. I just meant there are cultures where the in laws family being your family thing would be normal. That in and of itself is not a red flag to me. I think it’s lovely!

AyeDeadOn · 23/05/2025 15:36

Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 15:13

Who said anything about leaving your current husband?

You and OP's husband both seem to be of 'the more the merrier' persuasion, so I'm sure her husband's heart is large enough to welcome the pair of you into his little arrangement. Grin

I can see it now: "Martin, there are FOUR of us in this marriage."

Grow up.

HiRen · 23/05/2025 15:37

Sounds like there are 3 people in your marriage.

I wouldn't tolerate it, but I also wouldn't know what to do at this point given you have a child. I think you're stuck, if you're not prepared to issue an ultimatum or live with whatever little crumbs are left after your DH has pleased his brother, his SIL, his family members etc.

In fact, that's probably what I would do. Give him a year or two of living life on the terms his family set out, and see where it lands him. Either he's happy but realises there is no room left for you and your family (because you've taken yourself off to live your own life), or he comes to his senses.

Rtato · 23/05/2025 15:41

Worryabouteverything · 23/05/2025 15:00

@AyeDeadOn yes it nice that he sent flowers but have you missed the point that he didn't send his OWN WIFE flowers when she had his child.

I’ve not known any husband (mine, friends, or family) to send flowers to their own wife for their own baby.

Sending flowers or a similar sort of gift to others after they have had a baby yes, but not your own baby. It seems a weird thing to have an argument about.

AyeDeadOn · 23/05/2025 15:42

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:24

MIL called DH each week of SIL's pregnancy to give him detailed updates, including then hourly updates on her labor and childbirth!

He thinks this is normal. I do not.

Also, none of them asked about my pregnancy, and I wouldn't have wanted DH to share the details, either!

It sounds like you and your SIL have different boundaries with your in laws. That's fine. But it will lead to different relationships between your in laws and SIL than in laws and you. I don't think it's unusual for a grandmother to be excited about the birth of a grandchildren and wants to talk about it with close family. You want different boundaries, but they seem to be damned if they do and damned if they don't respect them.

Dawnchorusiswonderful · 23/05/2025 15:42

Honestly OP anything you say or do is not going to change this situation.
If I were you I would divorce him. You will be much better off without all this nonsense.

MsCactus · 23/05/2025 15:44

This is horrendous. If it was me I'd start texting DH's brother every time I needed help with something, under the guise of it apparently being normal in their family to all pitch in. And basically demand he does loads for me, using their own logic back on them

Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 15:46

AyeDeadOn · 23/05/2025 15:36

Grow up.

After you.

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:47

DH seems to simply think of his brother's wife as his family, period. BIL and SIL were together for over 10 years while DH was the single guy, and there are no sisters. She can do no wrong in his eyes and he seems stunned and angered that I came along and announced that I don't like her because the three of them got on great and of course, SIL is the darling of MIL/FIL.

DH did finally speak up one time. When his brother's wife got pregnant again, MIL again started calling with updates and DH told his mother that he didn't need updates on his SIL's pregnancy because this was a private matter between her and his brother. Apparently, MIL was very put out and not happy. Again, I'm the bad guy.

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseBrick · 23/05/2025 15:47

Hi OP

It might be helpful if you could give examples of some of the things she has said

Either way, if his family were unaware of how she treats you...did you ever try and raise it with her in any way?

whitewineandsun · 23/05/2025 15:47

Afreshone · 23/05/2025 14:54

Since before we were even married, DH seemed strangely close to his brother's wife.

and you thought… “yep, this is the man I want to marry and spend my life with”

I mean Op, you knew about this before you married. A little odd to crack on nonetheless

Definitely this. Why on earth did you marry into this mess. It is odd. He showed you where his priorities were. His brother must cringe.

Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 15:48

yeesh · 23/05/2025 15:30

Is this supposed to be Megan and Harry lol

Well, they're on no speaks with just about everyone on both sides, aren't they?

Can't imagine Interflora is run off its feet with orders for them.

Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 15:51

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:47

DH seems to simply think of his brother's wife as his family, period. BIL and SIL were together for over 10 years while DH was the single guy, and there are no sisters. She can do no wrong in his eyes and he seems stunned and angered that I came along and announced that I don't like her because the three of them got on great and of course, SIL is the darling of MIL/FIL.

DH did finally speak up one time. When his brother's wife got pregnant again, MIL again started calling with updates and DH told his mother that he didn't need updates on his SIL's pregnancy because this was a private matter between her and his brother. Apparently, MIL was very put out and not happy. Again, I'm the bad guy.

Do you actually WANT the marriage to continue?

It doesn't sound like you and your husband are happy, although with the possible exception 1 or 2 contrarians on this thread, I struggle to imagine who he WOULD be happy with other than his SiL.

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:53

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 23/05/2025 15:47

Hi OP

It might be helpful if you could give examples of some of the things she has said

Either way, if his family were unaware of how she treats you...did you ever try and raise it with her in any way?

It's endless big and little things. When we were financially struggling at one point, she made it a point to name drop and list the price of everything she was wearing or buying, and the men would sit there oblivious. She knew what she was doing. I had a really difficult pregnancy and she loved to coo about how easy hers was very chance she had. She loves to talk about herself and compliment herself and tease the guys and make them laugh and then shoot me dirty looks. One time we were at a family wedding and someone asked who she was and she said she was X's wife and this elderly woman said, "Oh, what a cute wife!" and SIL gave me this big gloating smile and said, "I guess I'm the cute wife!" That was one of the few times she's ever bothered to speak to me. The men don't seem to notice that when we are all together, she only speaks to them, trying to get all their attention. I could go on for hours.

Her personality aside, she has endless dramas big and small, and each time, brother and/or MIL calls my DH who is expected to abandon his own family (me and DC) to rush to the side of his brother's wife. The few times DH has pushed back, they give him hell.

OP posts:
nonmerci99 · 23/05/2025 15:54

Hmm. It sounds like your DH has known his SIL for a long time and loves her like family. Without some better examples, I’m not seeing evidence that he’s in love with her.

I think you are well within your rights to not want to see her or spend time with her, and I think it’s fair to tell your DH this. What I’m not sensing from your posts is if you are actually in love with your own DH yourself? Do you want to be with him? If you do, I think you’ll need to accept that she is his family… and unless she’s done something unforgivable to you, I can’t see how you can force him to shun her. Personally I think that would be pretty messed up on your part.

nonmerci99 · 23/05/2025 15:55

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 15:53

It's endless big and little things. When we were financially struggling at one point, she made it a point to name drop and list the price of everything she was wearing or buying, and the men would sit there oblivious. She knew what she was doing. I had a really difficult pregnancy and she loved to coo about how easy hers was very chance she had. She loves to talk about herself and compliment herself and tease the guys and make them laugh and then shoot me dirty looks. One time we were at a family wedding and someone asked who she was and she said she was X's wife and this elderly woman said, "Oh, what a cute wife!" and SIL gave me this big gloating smile and said, "I guess I'm the cute wife!" That was one of the few times she's ever bothered to speak to me. The men don't seem to notice that when we are all together, she only speaks to them, trying to get all their attention. I could go on for hours.

Her personality aside, she has endless dramas big and small, and each time, brother and/or MIL calls my DH who is expected to abandon his own family (me and DC) to rush to the side of his brother's wife. The few times DH has pushed back, they give him hell.

She sounds annoying for sure, but considering some of these examples are pretty innocuous and you say you hate her, I’m sure she knows that and reacts / treats you accordingly.