What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?

[Rosebush1245]

Curious to know what opinions you see constantly on mumsnet that you think “Am I the only person that disagrees with that!?”

People don’t expose their bits in female toilets, they’re in a cubicle.

I said nothing about the content. Just the level of the response.

FFS, this is an adult site.

So weird. It's like a parallel universe expecting civility from the GC.

I'm going back to the threads about bin colours, skips and hen nights. Much calmer!

There have been women on here who said men were unzipping their flies while walking past them to a cubicle. Another woman said a male was in the cubicle peeing with the door wide open.

Besides it's not just toilets, it's about changerooms. And womens shelters. Anywhere women are vulnerable from the male sex.

"The GC"?

You mean, feminists?

Expecting civility from misogynists and handmaidens who don't believe rape survivors like me deserve safety, privacy and dignity is clearly pointless.

You are very good at making assumptions aren't you. My parents most certainly weren't lazy, please tell me how me getting my own job and sorting my own finances makes them so - I would be interested to know? They were very good parents and would do anything for me. I actually learned quite recently that my DM asked my friend's DM, a teacher, if she could do anything to persuade me not to leave school (I was two thirds of the way through my sixth form year) - but I was determined. Are your parents to blame for you struggling to hold down a job? I managed to hold down the job I started at age 16 for 17 years btw.

I grew up in an era where offspring were expected to take some sort of responsibility and weren't mollycoddled to the ridiculous extent many are now. Most left school at 15 or 16 and went into full time work, I don't recall anyone from my class at school not going onto work once they left. Very few from my school - a small rural one - went on to uni, which was the norm in those days. Because we lived in a rural area lots of young people had to leave home to begin their work/training.

It wasn't just "my" experience, it was most peoples in those days, and somehow we coped - which is more than some seem to do these days if posts on MN are to be believed.

In case it wasn't clear, I also don't care what you feel to be the right "level" of response to people traducing women who don't want knobs out in their changing rooms.

You don't have the monopoly on being a rape survivor. Me too was evidence of that a lot of us fall into that category.

Oh I've got one.

99% of the "contraception failures" on here are just people having unprotected sex.

Yet you've clearly forgotten the lessons of me too. Once of which is to centre the females, not the males.

This thread is for unpopular opinions! I’m not expecting anyone to agree with me

We tried civility. We also tried compassion, #bekind and every other gaslighty way you tried to get us to accept knobs in our changing rooms while your heroes waved incredibly civil and adult placards threatening to rape, hang, decapitate, stab and immolate us.

We're done. Be glad the civility lasted as long as it did.

I agree with this one.

I can agree that it involves work. And I recognise that, for many people, it will be incredibly "hard" work. But speaking from my own subjective experience, I can't say that I ever really found it to be "hard work". Except, perhaps, the sleepless nights in the very early days.

Of course, I did all the ferrying around to clubs, helping with homework, hosting friends and making packed lunches etc. I guess they all involved work of a sort, but it certainly wasn't what I would describe as "hard" work in the same way as, say, my job, is hard work, or even stuff like cleaning the house! None of that stuff was mentally taxing, emotionally draining or physically exhausting in any way. I didn't have to psyche myself up to do it. It wasn't ever an effort.

And yes, I suppose there was a lot of what I guess some people might describe as "emotional labour" involved in listening, supporting etc. But as I said earlier, that stuff usually felt pretty effortless to me, and we were fortunate in that dd didn't really experience any major struggles. I get that it must be incredibly difficult for parents having to support children who are unhappy or unwell etc. And refereeing between children's squabbles etc.

I do understand what you mean about enjoying your job while simultaneously finding it hard work. For me, that sums up my paid work very well...I love what I do, but it also requires a lot of effort and endurance. I never personally experienced parenting in that way. I don't think that's because I'm a better parent than anyone else, I just think we were lucky to have been given a very easy ride.

I don't give a shit about trans people living their lives and have no interest in persecuting them. Enforcing rigid sex and gender roles entrenches misogyny and inequality and makes things worse for everyone, women, men, trans, intersex and non-binary. I have never paid the slightest attention to what sort of woman is in the toilet with me.

Also, most women outside of Mumsnet are actually quite supportive of trans people, and gender critical activists are the loud minority. The only thing is, they have money and the backing of the powerful, which makes a difference and is why their influence has grown to such levels. Anti-trans sentiment is closely linked to the far right, and that pipeline is shorter than you think when you look at loonies like Rowling and the people she associates with.

Anti-trans sentiment is closely linked to the far right

You'll lose your mind when you hear what the Communist Party did.

And no, of course most women don't want men in their intimate spaces. The latest YouGov polls prove it and it shouldn't surprise anyone.

Quite. Peri menopausal symptoms i.e. depression, anxiety, insomnia, excessive bleeding, vaginal atrophy, cramps, migraines, brain fog, hot flushes etc, etc peak between the ages of 48 - 52.

The most common age for women to commit suicide is between 48 - 52.

This is not a coincidence.

Females are the oppressed sex class. We are oppressed based on our sex. Protecting our hard-won sex-based rights and spaces, especially for rape survivors and DV victims protects women. No one is 'persecuting' males by excluding males and their male genitals from female only safe single sex spaces.

You are also deeply ill-informed as poll after poll after poll after poll shows the overwhelming majority of people support the retention of female only single sex spaces, AND a poll commissioned showed the overwhelming majority of people support the SC ruling, including 50% of Labour supporters. You are in a very deep echo chamber if you truly don't see that you are in the (ever decreasing) minority.

Pro-womens rights and female only spaces is linked to left wing feminists.
Anti-womens rights and being pro males exposing their penis and testicles in female only spaces is linked to the far right misogynistic Toxic Masculinity Mens Rights Movement (which is what trans is, re-badged).

Yes, JK Rowling is famously incredibly right wing.

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These people are batshit and live in an ever-shrinking echo chamber. They don't live in the REAL world where the overwhelming majority of people support female only spaces based on female only single sex. They are that cloistered in their echo chamber they truly don't know they are the tiny fringe minority.

@bananastraightener ^Half of Labour voters back Supreme Court ruling on biological sex
Only 28 per cent oppose the judgment on gender identity, suggesting that MPs who criticised it last month were out of step with their public
^

https://archive.md/90soa#selection-1383.0-1387.140

When facts break echo chamber delusions!

Oh what a load of rubbish!! I am a long term renter and will be renting for the rest of my life. I have a tidy sum of money in the bank now (inheritance), but not enough to buy a property and as I am in my mid 60s can't get a mortgage (and even if I could I wouldn't want one). I pay a very low rent and have only had good landlords.

What would you like me to do if there were no landlords? The two people who rent the other flats were I am also have no chance of buying their own homes.

I think it's nobody's business what gender you identify as and certainly nothing to do with government. If you want to call yourself Susan, inject yourself with oestrogen and get yourself some plastic breasts go for it and, given it's a personal matter and nothing to do with anyone else, you can pay for it from the (20% higher than women's) salary you earn. Your special identity is a completely private matter. It's nobody else's job to provide you with toilets or spaces or treatment or documents or validation or words - certainly not tax payers.

People visiting newborns also taking newborns out. We loved loads of visitors and also went out the day we came home with all our dcs.