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What are your unpopular opinions that most mumsnetters don’t agree with?

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Rosebush1245 · 21/05/2025 20:01

Curious to know what opinions you see constantly on mumsnet that you think “Am I the only person that disagrees with that!?”

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NattyTurtle59 · 22/05/2025 01:56

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 01:41

At 21 year olds you’re an adult. He sounds controlling.

I agree. I was going out at 17 and don't remember my parents ever telling me I had to be home by a certain time - and I was an only child.

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 01:58

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/05/2025 01:49

How old are you?

I am 52. I started my first Saturday job three weeks after my 16th birthday. I have recruited staff and really it is easier to just for the 18 year old over the 16 year old. We get CVs weekly for 16 years olds looking for job, loads of them. No one wants to employ them for a part time job around college hours, they really dont! Maybe it can happen in cities, but not in a suburb or boring "arse end of nowhere" town that most of us live in!

What does age matter? But I’m younger than you. As a manager I would not discriminate against someone’s age. There are plenty of jobs in restaurants/ food shops and clothes shops that they can do and can work within the business goals. But perhaps it is a rural thing. I’ve never had an issue getting a job when I was young, neither did my friends and there’s always young people looking for work at my place. We have a few under 18s in our place and dozens across the company. They can only with a certain amount of hours per day/need breaks but this has never been an issue.

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 02:03

NattyTurtle59 · 22/05/2025 01:56

I agree. I was going out at 17 and don't remember my parents ever telling me I had to be home by a certain time - and I was an only child.

Same with me and my friends. My parents trust me. Nothing bad ever happened. I’m still alive. Did have one friend who was the only one who had a 1am curfew up until 18 and she was so embarrassed. I remember a few years later her actually mentioning it saying she felt really left out and babied as her younger brother who was 17 didn’t have a curfew. I guess you would feel like that when you’re the only one in that situation.

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/05/2025 02:06

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 01:58

What does age matter? But I’m younger than you. As a manager I would not discriminate against someone’s age. There are plenty of jobs in restaurants/ food shops and clothes shops that they can do and can work within the business goals. But perhaps it is a rural thing. I’ve never had an issue getting a job when I was young, neither did my friends and there’s always young people looking for work at my place. We have a few under 18s in our place and dozens across the company. They can only with a certain amount of hours per day/need breaks but this has never been an issue.

I asked because things changed massively in the ten years or so after I was 16. With Sunday opening and so on, suddenly there were far less traditional "Saturday jobs" than there had been.

Every employee was/is expected to be fully flexible. Which meant that a lot of former SAHM could get a job working the whole weekend when Dad was working during the week and they didnt have to pay childcare. This is still the case.

I have never discriminated due to age but if I have a budget for one staff member, I will choose the one that can do the whole job not part of it. Thats just economics. I work in hospitality and its only in the big outlets that there is a place for under 18;s, the smaller ones simply dont have the budget for it.

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 02:16

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/05/2025 02:06

I asked because things changed massively in the ten years or so after I was 16. With Sunday opening and so on, suddenly there were far less traditional "Saturday jobs" than there had been.

Every employee was/is expected to be fully flexible. Which meant that a lot of former SAHM could get a job working the whole weekend when Dad was working during the week and they didnt have to pay childcare. This is still the case.

I have never discriminated due to age but if I have a budget for one staff member, I will choose the one that can do the whole job not part of it. Thats just economics. I work in hospitality and its only in the big outlets that there is a place for under 18;s, the smaller ones simply dont have the budget for it.

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I would be in the category of having a less traditional Saturday job then. Would work a few 4 hour shifts after school then on the weekend. We have around 30 staff, so we aren’t huge but not a small business. But we’re very flexible in the contract hours, can be 40 hours down to 4/8/12 hours. Just depends on the hours we need filled and who applies/best suited for the job. But say I needed a 16 hour contract, it wouldn’t be an issue employing 2x 8 hour contracts.

MarkingBad · 22/05/2025 02:21

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 01:01

Of course a 17 year old can drive on their own. Me, my family and all my friends started driving at 17. In America, you can drive at 16. I’m from the city and there are plenty of jobs for teens and adults. So that might be a rural thing. I wouldn’t choose to live in a rural area exactly for these reasons. Definitely wouldn’t be pissing around giving lifts and picking up my teens after they’ve been clubbing.

You can drive at 16 in the UK, under certain restrictions. Although I'd wager even a small tractor (the vehicle you are allowed to drive at 16) is more than capable of an enormous amount of damage more than a car.

I learned to drive in a tractor at 16.

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 02:27

MarkingBad · 22/05/2025 02:21

You can drive at 16 in the UK, under certain restrictions. Although I'd wager even a small tractor (the vehicle you are allowed to drive at 16) is more than capable of an enormous amount of damage more than a car.

I learned to drive in a tractor at 16.

Really? What restrictions? Did you feel you were ready to drive a tractor? Although I have noticed know they do offer driving lessons to younger kids in my area… like from 10….

AnnaL94 · 22/05/2025 02:39

A huge salad will not fill you up for the whole day.

Niche hobbies aren’t outing. At all.

Going on holiday with in-laws, parents, adult children - is a good thing. Its nice.

Having family over for dinner (especially Christmas) is NOT “hosting”.

Hen parties are great.

Botox and fillers CAN look good.

Council estates have more normal people than “naice” leafy middle class areas. The “naice” areas tend to be full of fruit loops.

MarkingBad · 22/05/2025 02:44

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 02:27

Really? What restrictions? Did you feel you were ready to drive a tractor? Although I have noticed know they do offer driving lessons to younger kids in my area… like from 10….

Yes I loved it and well up for the challenge, I'd have been happy to do it at any age

Then again I find a lot of things exciting not frightening. I used to break and school young and problem equines, ridden and driven a lot of different vehicles for pleasure and work, including MCs and JCBs

Here's the rules for today, I just needed a provisional license which included tractors on it at the time

https://www.gov.uk/learning-to-drive-a-tractor-or-specialist-vehicle/age-limits

Learning to drive a tractor or specialist vehicle

You need the right licence to drive a tractor or specialist vehicle, there are also age limits and specific rules for driving tests

https://www.gov.uk/learning-to-drive-a-tractor-or-specialist-vehicle/age-limits

GreenWheat · 22/05/2025 02:48

I don't really care who is in the toilet or changing cubicle next to me.

My neighbours and I take parcels for each other with no issues whatsoever.

I like fireworks.

TheMel · 22/05/2025 03:10

elfendom · 22/05/2025 00:27

@TheMel Personally I think if your children are dying, just tap the fuck out and surrender. You don't fight to the death or the last man standing because Israel will accept your terms. Instead do right by your own people and accept defeat.

Glad I don't know you in real life. I hope you'd also fall on your sword when defending yourself as a human in everyday scenarios and accept defeat. Bet you wouldn't though, would you, far too important to yourself? Got to be hands down the most ignorant comment I've seen on here for a long, long time. Let's all just tap out when somebody bigger and richer and 'better' comes along. That is what you are saying.

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Glad you don't know me? Is that an implied threat?

And I can tell you one thing, if ever I was threatened by someone bigger and stronger 'money or your life', you can bet I would hand over my money. That is not falling on my sword, just the opposite. It's valuing my life more than anything else.

Not to mention if heaven forbid it would be my children's lives that are in danger, I would never continue fighting. Only a suicidal maniac would do that.

In this case Hamas started a war with Israel, and as long as they continue the war, they continue to suffer devastating losses. If they had a shred of mercy for their own people and their own children they would have long surrendered. Heck, the civilians of Gaza should have long surrendered en masse, rather than continuing to fight to the last man standing.

As I wrote before, when you are losing, and your children are dying, you tap the fuck out. You don't fight to the death, especially not the death of your innocent children.

TheMel · 22/05/2025 03:14

3 I think this was actually mentioned by someone.

The lumping together of the non-verbal, non-communicative, not-toilet-trained, severely disabled, with the fully functioning, high-earning, albeit socially awkward under one ASD umbrella, hasn't done anyone any favours.

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 03:17

TheMel · 22/05/2025 03:10

Glad you don't know me? Is that an implied threat?

And I can tell you one thing, if ever I was threatened by someone bigger and stronger 'money or your life', you can bet I would hand over my money. That is not falling on my sword, just the opposite. It's valuing my life more than anything else.

Not to mention if heaven forbid it would be my children's lives that are in danger, I would never continue fighting. Only a suicidal maniac would do that.

In this case Hamas started a war with Israel, and as long as they continue the war, they continue to suffer devastating losses. If they had a shred of mercy for their own people and their own children they would have long surrendered. Heck, the civilians of Gaza should have long surrendered en masse, rather than continuing to fight to the last man standing.

As I wrote before, when you are losing, and your children are dying, you tap the fuck out. You don't fight to the death, especially not the death of your innocent children.

Suggest you actually do your research and you will see who actually started it.

TheMel · 22/05/2025 03:19

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 03:17

Suggest you actually do your research and you will see who actually started it.

Whatever, I'm not turning this thread into an Israel-Palestine debate. It's an unpopular opinion thread, and it seems mine qualifies.

HereComesAnUnpopularPoster · 22/05/2025 03:28
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Things that have come up over the many mumsnet years that I don’t agree with

  1. I don’t like a lot of women, I prefer chatting to men
  2. hen dos abroad are a bit 🙃
  3. Baby showers are naff
  4. Save the day cards are ridiculous…just send the invite
  5. Weddings are too ott these days….just get married and stop being a bridezilla
  6. Pensioners are lovely and should get a higher pension plus the winter fuel allowance
  7. National insurance and tax should be raised for all and there should be no lower tax free amount
  8. Farmers should not pay inheritance tax on farms
  9. The Private schools new tax should be abolished
  10. School teachers should be stricter, students are running amock these days
  11. Parents should pay for travel to school whatever the distance, reason or circumstances
  12. UC should be lowered and the minimum number of hours to work to receive it should increased to full time and not be shared by parents
  13. The new welfare/ PIP shakeup is a good thing
  14. Meat eating is not good for a humans or the planets health
  15. The bar for free school meals should be raised we can’t afford all this free stuff ( unless of course we go for no7 big time.

I think I’m done
but I found that very rewarding

ps I name changed 🤣🤣

Crushed23 · 22/05/2025 03:45

FKAT · 21/05/2025 22:48

I don't think lying about what sex you are is a human right.

I don’t usually wade into the trans debate, but I agree with this. Stating an indisputable biological fact is not ‘hate’, and suggesting it is is simply a tool for shutting down debate.

Dunnop · 22/05/2025 03:48

That people who have the least to spare are often the most generous.

That peanut butter, cheddar cheese and mango chutney on a sandwich is delicious.

Teaching assistants and nursery workers are not paid enough.

Neemie · 22/05/2025 04:40

samarrange · 21/05/2025 21:16

School - non uniform works

The propaganda around school uniform seems to be that if you don't have it, every minute of school time will be filled with bullying about designer labels. DP use to subscribe to this, I was unsure.

Then our kids went to school in France for several years, where there are no uniforms. They seemed fine even though they had zero designer stuff. They are now adults. I asked them once, "Did you ever have any issues at your French school over clothes?". They both confirmed that the topic had never, ever come up.

I agree with this. I went to school with no uniform and my DD goes to school with no uniform. Most of Europe goes to school with no uniform. It causes no issues at all. No issues about tie length, no worry about the colour of shoes, no detention for not having a blazer.

Yazzi · 22/05/2025 05:14

That most normal, happy families (and friends) put up with a bit of selfishness, tactlessness or other faults in each other in order to keep the relationship close, and are happier for doing so.

That (non abusive) families have responsibilities to each other well beyond nuclear parents raising infant children

That a number of mumsnetters don't like people generally and following their advice may end with you feeling self righteously correct, but also socially isolated and miserable

That Palestine is one of the greatest moral crises of our times, that it's madness that it's not more on our minds as a society, and in 20 years those that didn't stand against the genocide will pretend they did, so as not to be seen like those who didn't oppose South African apartheid

letstrythatagain · 22/05/2025 05:18

I can never get over the hatred of step mums on here...

Youvebeenframed · 22/05/2025 05:38

That so many people have to say they or their kids are autistic/ADHD/ASD or whatever … like having a “label” is a badge of honour

That kids names have to “go with” each other

BelindaCardAisle · 22/05/2025 05:42

Most accidental pregnancies, were not an accident.

I'm not surprised that some here have been cheated on, if it's a true account of how they treat their spouses. Nothing makes cheating acceptable, but one person can't just make unilateral decisions about the marriage and expect the other to just conform.

So much hatred towards the PIL, but I bet those posters will still greedily take any inheritance. Not good enough to be in their lives, or kept at arms length - then the PIL money shouldn't be good enough either.

Most of the 'mental load' that posters claim to be crippled by, isn't that mentally loading.

enfrance · 22/05/2025 05:45

That dogs should be allowed everywhere. I love dogs and grew up with them but I also understand that not everyone wants them around when they’re eating, working or trying to lick their ear when they’re on the tube (okay that last one was quite cute).

BeJollyEagle · 22/05/2025 05:47

Youvebeenframed · 22/05/2025 05:38

That so many people have to say they or their kids are autistic/ADHD/ASD or whatever … like having a “label” is a badge of honour

That kids names have to “go with” each other

i feel they say it to try and excuse any bad behaviour. I wonder how many are actually diagnosed instead of just adding they are.

enfrance · 22/05/2025 05:53

oh yes all the MIL hate, most of what goes on here seems like very normal behaviour to me. I’d never say it in reply to one of the the many threads but do none of the posters ever think if they carry on the way they are through life then they’ll repeat the cycle their DIL will do the same to them?

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