Men DO NOT have right of way!

[CalmDownCats]

Has anyone else noticed this?

Since around my mid-40s I've noticed that, in particular older men my age or above, just barge straight towards me and expect me to get out of their way.

Since realising this seemed to actually be a thing, I now just hold my ground and keep going. I sometimes even get silly, smirky looks from them as they go around me, as if they know exactly what they are doing.

It's usually older guys, never really younger ones.

Is this just me or does it happen to others too? Is it something that's always happened to middle aged ladies or just a sign of the times?

I naturally look at about collarbone height anyway.

I try to avoid starting parkrun/ races behind tall men as I can't see around them to anticipate what's ahead, and fear getting a bloodied nose from a swinging elbow. That's just a physics issue rather than a masculinity issue though.

Swans are so much less stressful than Splashy Front Crawl Man or Chatty Dry-Hair Ladies What Breaststroke.

When I am benign dictactor of the universe, I shall decree that all persons are to keep left (or right in applicable places around the world) unless overtaking and so many of these issues will be avoided.

@blubbyblub

I’ve come across whole swarms of them on a group walk who seem to think because they are doing a group activity the common decency rules of single file when on a narrow path dont apply

Same with ramblers who seem to think they have right of way because they're ramblers.

The cctv is quite good of him. Maybe he escaped abroad after it to avoid detection. Its a shame there wasn't a face on picture of him as they might have been able to do facial recognition

I for one look forward to your reign 😁

I’m sorry for what you have to put up with being short, it sounds like hard work. It’s a shame everyone can’t be more considerate.

That poor woman pushed by that make jogger! Omg she could have been seriously injured or killed. What an utter bastard.

I think they were referring to women in pairs who walk side by side with prams, holding a child on one hand and a dog in the other, taking up the entire width of a wide pavement, and not mothers walking on their own on narrow paths.

There's an urban cycling group I come across who are the same. Mixed sex.

I am not talking about needing to go in the road, I am just talking about NOT ploughing down the middle of the pavement

Where does 'keep left' come from? I'd never heard it until I was told off by a random man for walking on the wrong side of a footpath.
I'm a Londoner and always stand on the right on escalators, but unless there are specific signs in busy areas, I'll just walk wherever's easiest.
But I won't get out the way of someone deliberately changing direction so they are walking straight at me.

DO NOT get me started on cyclists. We have three kinds around here. There are the folk who are used to cycling, They wear the gear, behave like road users and are totally no problem. They we have the bum in air "Look at wonderful me and my wonderful bike" types, mostly men. The third group are people who have used one of the local rent a bike on your holidays services. Most of them don't seem to have been on a bike for years, wobble along in groups wandering all over the road and thinking its all a huge joke. Often there are children with them, usually trailing along at the back unsupervised.

Yes. I am now 57 but 4 years ago I had to commute daily on the LNER line and get off at Newcastle. A suited man of around my age always seemed to be waiting at my door exit and would shove on as I was trying to exit the carriage.
No quarter given to the fact I use very obvious NHS double crutches.
Eventually I got fed up and one day stood my ground and bellowed: 'MOVE' at him. He looked sheepish & a couple of women on the platform actually clapped.

I became disabled aged 34. It astonishes me how many people can't see crutches or wheelchairs (but can use BB parking spaces you don't 'need')
It is occasionally women but it is overwhelmiingly men. I am sure that if I had been 20, pneumatic and blond it would be less: men value women for sex.

No, I didn’t to be fair. Thanks for that, even though I know it was supposed to be a gotcha.

@JohnTheRevelator don't get me started on mamils. Not the same thing, but yesterday I sitting outside on a boat & a mamil, still in his lycra, decided to stand against the side, right in front of me to spoil my view; so my direct eyeline was his thrusted forward pelvis, showing his soft willy encased in his lycra shorts. Why do they think we all want to see this 🤮

it wasn't supposed to be a gotcha but it does change the meaning of your post.

That's terrible, @pinkingshears, how can they pretend not to notice?

I've never heard of Patriarchy Chicken before. I am definitely going to start playing this 😂

It's often men but it's not just men. Yesterday I had two women with their kids in tow walking spread out across a very wide pavement. I had to step into the rude. Some people just have no manners.

I think it's more automatic for drivers. London is probably different because apparently most people don't drive, so won't live and breath the "keep left" rule that drivers abide by in other parts of the country where most people drive. I also think it's less relevant/possible in busy places like shopping streets, shopping centres, etc where people aren't in a straight line trajectory like they'd be on, say, a canal footpath, but instead are weaving around, left and right, between shops etc.

Oh my god, I thought it was just me. They also like to lurk behind you in shops rather than wait or saying excuse me. I’m 52 and I’ve noticed it over the last couple of years. Some of them would rather you walked on the road than moving out of the way on pavements. 😡

I do play but maybe I'll stop as there are going to a whole load of women who just walk into each other after this thread 🤣

I don't expect men to be 'chivalrous' thank you.
You should be aware of me, as a female because men are usually larger and faster than women who are less able to escape a situation should they need to
I have a 6'2" son, gentle as a lamb. He is aware his size can intimidate smaller people (ie most women). He also would cross the road in the evening rather than walk behind a lone female (I explained this to him from age 12 onwards)
I also have a female child (18) who is 5'5 but chooses to wear very loose mens clothes/boots, walks 'with an attitude' who to all intents and purposes appears a shorter man. She also thinks how close she walks to people particularly women.
This is because in general women are less safe around men than other women.

I’ve never encountered this and I’m older than you. Men always step aside and let me through.

I think many of you are looking for problems here.

Here's a tip - walk slower than the person walking towards you. If you have to stop, then stop, but don't change your path. They will naturally move out of the way.

@pinkingshears ,

‘I don't expect men to be 'chivalrous' thank you.
You should be aware of me, as a female because men are usually larger and faster than women who are less able to escape a situation should they need to
I have a 6'2" son, gentle as a lamb. He is aware his size can intimidate smaller people (ie most women). He also would cross the road in the evening rather than walk behind a lone female (I explained this to him from age 12 onwards)’

I think you need to look up the definition of chivalry, because your above two paragraphs are pretty contradictory!