Starmer is about to reverse Brexit

[TheQuirkyMaker]

Is is right that an unpopular govt can reverse the democratic wishes of the UK to have nothing to do with Europe?

Trumps isn't a fan of the EU, but he has postponed his latest tariff threat

I was commenting about the markedly un-British turn of phrase.

I agree with you on that, I just meant maybe they are repeating Trump's views on the EU

What, even when it's going down the tubes ?

Previously Greece asked for a financial rescue by the European Union and International Monetary Fund. Bailouts - emergency loans aimed at saving sinking economies - began in 2010. Greece received three successive packages, totalling €289bn (£259bn; $330bn), but they came with the price of drastic austerity measures. There were in 2010, 2012, 2015

All the other Member States had to foot the bill (that included UK).

Will Germany be the next one needing a bailout I wonder?

It’s not going down the tubes. HTH.

waves from the continent

Can confirm that reports of it going down the tubes have been greatly exaggerated.

As someone who has many, many family members across many EU countries, I can tell you that your sinking ship beliefs are wishful thinking.

Just read my summary and you'll see different.

Your summary's most recent event is 11 years ago.
Brexiteer wishful thinking still intact among some, I see.

Your summary is ancient history.

Err no.

Greece's bailouts were some time ago but Germany's recession is recent - like now.

You're not British, are you?

Please see my post about Germany's recession, which is current.

Germany is in a period of economic difficulty that some consider a recession.

According to the BBC, and other sources like Morningstar and Sky News, Germany's economy has contracted for two consecutive years, and there's a strong likelihood of another year of stagnation or even further contraction in 2025

Why does it matter to you what nationality I am?🤔

Because if you're not British, spending your time on a British parenting website posting pro Brexit propaganda like it's 2015 is a very odd thing to do.

Germany is in recession and things are difficult there at present (according to a number of friends)

the standard of living is still higher than here in the uk

it’s quite a shock when you go to Germany the stark contrast to here on how clean it is, how well maintained roads and hospitals are, how good services are

they are facing similar issues to what we are here but there is generally more share of wealth which helps the economy grow

It really doesn’t matter how economies within the EU perform from day to day. It’s not about that, and just because eg Germany isn’t doing well, that has no bearing on whether the efficiencies of frictionless trade are advantageous for a market participants or not.

Brexit added much friction, reversing it completely as well as joining Schengen would be my preference, but an interim deal to address some of these frictions is very welcome and helps British businesses.

And what do you think is going to happen to the US economy in the next 4 years (this is aside from all the authoritarianism-bordering-on-full-blown-fascism stuff)?

Hint: it's armoured and moves on tracks.

Meanwhile, the UK is doing its best to open up markets it stupidly slammed the door on under the previous government.

You think we should tie ourselves to up and coming markets only? At huge inconvenience and economic expense?

What places do you deign good enough for the UK to do business with, if not the one on our doorstep? The only one we have a land border with?🤯

Because if you're not British you're not living with the consequences of Brexit. So why so invested?

....that some consider a "recession...."

Googles AI overview... FFS thats hilarious, haven't you got any original thought?

The Morningstar is quite niche

You have a weird idea of what 'democratic' means.

I don't see the point in re-inventing the wheel.

Or the point in doing your own research into the actual facts instead of just copy/pasting unverified AI drivel, apparently.

But the hill you've chosen to die on isn't really relevant, is it?

This thread is not about the UK having full membership in the EU and never was; it is about the UK very sensibly forging closer ties with our European friends and neighbours - who collectively form the largest trading block on the planet - in an effort to improve our substandard position on the world stage; something that is increasingly vital with the physical threat of Russia and the economic threat of the US.

To suggest we shouldn't seek to forge these ties and to continue to hobble ourselves is to actively work against the national interest; the very definition of unpatriotic.