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To Bring back Tony Blair As PM ?

202 replies

Swirlythingy2025 · 19/05/2025 09:37

basically His experience could be valuable in navigating the current complex geopolitical challenges especially at the moment.

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SharpLily · 19/05/2025 19:24

Blueeyedmale · 19/05/2025 17:41

I was too young to vote for him first time round but things I remember people were happy,people had money,money was put into education you didn't have to wait to long to see a doctor or a hospital appointment.

Sadly his legacy will always be Iraq in many people's eyes but life was good for many I don't think we have had that vibe in this country for a very long time.

I've always voted labour but so far this government haven't loved up to the expectations and the promises

Wow, you really must have been young. Things really weren't THAT great.

Blueeyedmale · 19/05/2025 19:29

SharpLily · 19/05/2025 19:24

Wow, you really must have been young. Things really weren't THAT great.

That's a matter of opinion I've spoken to many who say things were much better back then and even being young back then,I was still able to see that people were happy felt financially stable.

Things might not have been great for you but for many others they were

FOJN · 19/05/2025 20:49

Thegreyhound · 19/05/2025 17:57

I’d genuinely rather have John Major, who at least is a thoughtful person with some consistent morality. And that’s speaking as someone who celebrated all night long when the Tories were finally booted out.

I"m not a conservative voter either but have to agree with this. I think politics has always been a dirty business but the calibre of our political class in the last 20 has plummeted.

FOJN · 19/05/2025 20:53

RoseAndGeranium · 19/05/2025 18:36

Such an underrated PM. I watched a lot of the Leveson inquiry, back when that was a thing, and he struck me as being the only ex- or current PM interviewed who seemed to grasp and respect the significance of the office. People were always very rude about him but I think he was pretty decent. Blair took all the credit for the Good Friday agreement and so on but Major had set so much of it while he was in office.

I agree but it always galls me that Mo Molam and the women campaigners of Northern Ireland are often forgotten when the GFA is discussed.

scalt · 19/05/2025 20:57

Thegreyhound · 19/05/2025 17:57

I’d genuinely rather have John Major, who at least is a thoughtful person with some consistent morality. And that’s speaking as someone who celebrated all night long when the Tories were finally booted out.

Major has often been described as dull and boring, and easily forgotten between the “iconic” Thatcher and Blair. With prime ministers, the more dull and boring they are, the better, in many ways. I don’t want “iconic” personalities like Thatcher and Blair, and I don’t want comedians like Johnson and Trump. I want a prime minister that and government that quietly and boringly gets on with the job, starting with their own country. Blair was always too busy meddling in other countries to pay much attention to his own.

RoseAndGeranium · 19/05/2025 21:12

FOJN · 19/05/2025 20:53

I agree but it always galls me that Mo Molam and the women campaigners of Northern Ireland are often forgotten when the GFA is discussed.

100%

Bushmillsbabe · 19/05/2025 22:07

Blueeyedmale · 19/05/2025 19:29

That's a matter of opinion I've spoken to many who say things were much better back then and even being young back then,I was still able to see that people were happy felt financially stable.

Things might not have been great for you but for many others they were

My memory is the opposite.
The look on my Dads face when he realised that the private pension he had been paying into since he was 18 was worthless following Gordon Brown's tax raid, he had worked his way up from literally nothing, tried to plan for his and my mums retirement and his hard work was for nothing, he had to work until he was 73 and only stopped as physically unable.
The panic on patients faces when we were stuck in lifts in PFI hospitals built poorly by Blairs cronies.
The massive increases in uni places without jobs to go to, health professionals graduating a few years after me with hugely valuable skills and massive student debt and then working in Tesc, students who had worked so hard and who we had worked hard to help train.
These are my memories of the Blair years.

SpottedDonkey · 19/05/2025 22:10

I really don’t think TB gets out of bed for a paltry £170k a year these days…

ReplacementBusService · 19/05/2025 22:12

Bring back Neville Chamberlain, he will sort this mess out 💯💫

millymollymoomoo · 19/05/2025 22:28

No way. He’s to blame for a lot of the geopolitical problems of today

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/05/2025 22:43

No. First there is the Iraq war.

Also he is an idiot and he embarrassed the LP recently, didn’t he? A lot of talk about how he has lost his touch.

Also , what the hell were he and his wife thinking, selling their signatures on eBay?? Grasping pair.

RoseAndGeranium · 19/05/2025 23:15

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/05/2025 22:43

No. First there is the Iraq war.

Also he is an idiot and he embarrassed the LP recently, didn’t he? A lot of talk about how he has lost his touch.

Also , what the hell were he and his wife thinking, selling their signatures on eBay?? Grasping pair.

I’m sorry they did what now??? Are you serious???

MarkingBad · 20/05/2025 00:41

RoseAndGeranium · 19/05/2025 23:15

I’m sorry they did what now??? Are you serious???

I thought I remembered the story when @marmaladeandpeanutbutter mentioned it so I just looked it up and yup

They must have been skint that week

https://news.sky.com/story/blairs-signature-sold-on-ebay-by-cherie-10491257

Blair's Signature Sold On eBay By Cherie

Cherie Blair has stunned eBay browsers by hawking her husband's signature for £10.

https://news.sky.com/story/blairs-signature-sold-on-ebay-by-cherie-10491257

TempestTost · 20/05/2025 03:09

Hoardasurass · 19/05/2025 10:28

I presume that your too young to remember how awful he was, or understand that he is the reason for most of the shit situation we find ourselves in now, from his massive expansion of PFI, the creation of tax credits (thus artificially suppressing wages), his illegal war, okaying brown selling off our gold reserves and bankrupting the UK to name but a few of his greatest hits.
Basically the man was a disaster and not fit for office then and certainly not now

It's instructive in a way though.

People seem to vote for Labour expecting a lot of public spending.

The Labour government before Blair ended with a loan from the WB.

Blair found money by binding the NHS to long term contracts with private companies that they're still paying for, and the other things you mention. But it was already coming apart when they lost the election.

But that seems to be the kind of thing they need to promise to get elected. And you constantly see people on MN nostalgic for how much Blair managed to do.

SO I am not sure if it's really down to guys like Blair making bad decisions, or the public that demands those decisions.

RoseAndGeranium · 20/05/2025 09:08

MarkingBad · 20/05/2025 00:41

I thought I remembered the story when @marmaladeandpeanutbutter mentioned it so I just looked it up and yup

They must have been skint that week

https://news.sky.com/story/blairs-signature-sold-on-ebay-by-cherie-10491257

…wow. Gross. Lower than I ever expected they’d go, and I already thought they were pretty bottom of the barrel.

Moier · 20/05/2025 09:13

Bring back Rishi..
He was brilliant.

Swirlythingy2025 · 20/05/2025 09:26

some good reading and points overall thank you all maybe in hindsight ill need to reconsider

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whynotmereally · 20/05/2025 09:32

He did a lot of good (war crimes aside)

I alway liked Gordon Brown (except for the debt part)

Vaxtable · 20/05/2025 09:34

He has blood on his hands. He took us into a war based in lies, which he knew about

so no

Bushmillsbabe · 20/05/2025 09:46

Moier · 20/05/2025 09:13

Bring back Rishi..
He was brilliant.

When his term in office ended, things were just starting to look brighter, inflation was dropping, economy was stabilising. He inherited a mess from Boris and covid and was trying to sensibly and slowly work the country out of it. But it was too little to late for many who were understandably looking for change, I wonder if had the election been a year later and there had been more time for change to be felt in people pockets, the outcome would have been different. He was a bit like John Major - quiet, sensible, intelligent, hard working. But not an obvious politician, and there was a resentment towards him due to his wife's wealth, and possibly a bit of racism at play too - we still seem to fixated on white male prime ministers.

Onlyhereforthebatshitneighbours · 20/05/2025 09:50

here was a resentment towards him due to his wife's wealth

Which was more than justified when you look at the contracts he awarded his wife's family.

Badbadbunny · 20/05/2025 09:54

Moier · 20/05/2025 09:13

Bring back Rishi..
He was brilliant.

Funniest thing I've read this week.

RoseAndGeranium · 20/05/2025 10:24

Bushmillsbabe · 20/05/2025 09:46

When his term in office ended, things were just starting to look brighter, inflation was dropping, economy was stabilising. He inherited a mess from Boris and covid and was trying to sensibly and slowly work the country out of it. But it was too little to late for many who were understandably looking for change, I wonder if had the election been a year later and there had been more time for change to be felt in people pockets, the outcome would have been different. He was a bit like John Major - quiet, sensible, intelligent, hard working. But not an obvious politician, and there was a resentment towards him due to his wife's wealth, and possibly a bit of racism at play too - we still seem to fixated on white male prime ministers.

I sort of agree. Oh the other hand… Immigration is a huge source of concern for much of the public and he failed to stop the enormous legal influx that Boris set off in an attempt to stimulate the economy. He was also politically witless in ways that point to a bit of a moral vacuum — leading the D Day ceremony early for instance.

BIossomtoes · 20/05/2025 10:29

x2boys · 19/05/2025 09:44

Tbf,it was nearly 30 years ago he must be well into his 70,s now?

He’s 72 this month, born the same year as me. Physically and mentally pretty good for his age. He’s way too wealthy now to even contemplate it.

Badbadbunny · 20/05/2025 10:35

RoseAndGeranium · 20/05/2025 10:24

I sort of agree. Oh the other hand… Immigration is a huge source of concern for much of the public and he failed to stop the enormous legal influx that Boris set off in an attempt to stimulate the economy. He was also politically witless in ways that point to a bit of a moral vacuum — leading the D Day ceremony early for instance.

Trouble is that he screwed over small businesses and did nothing to help them survive nor grow after the pandemic. He was ALL OVER big business, but was very happy to sacrifice small businesses. Typical "corporate" guy! That's partly why we are suffering poor economic growth, high numbers of empty shops (and other small business premises), unemployment, etc. Statistics show that the majority of jobs are in small/medium businesses, yet successive governments have pandered mostly to big corporate businesses at the expense of small private ones.