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To Bring back Tony Blair As PM ?

202 replies

Swirlythingy2025 · 19/05/2025 09:37

basically His experience could be valuable in navigating the current complex geopolitical challenges especially at the moment.

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christmaspudding43 · 19/05/2025 15:22

Quite apart from anything else I couldn't cope with another term of listening. To. The random pauses when. He speaks. All accompanied by meaningful looks around the room. Infuriating.

RoseAndGeranium · 19/05/2025 15:23

Has anyone posted this on the thread yet? Feels like the right moment to revisit the time Tony wished the nation Merry Christmas in the style of an aggressive drunk being held back by his wife.

To Bring back Tony Blair As PM ?
ARealitycheck · 19/05/2025 15:29

Both Blair and his self serving boot of a wife can get in the sea as far as I'm concerned. Ruined the Country, took us into an illegal war, went against the UN, Filled him and his cronies pockets with PFI projects, Encouraged the free movement of people from Eastern Europe which became the catalyst for brexit.

Yep that is exactly what we need. 😡

Bringmeahigherlove · 19/05/2025 15:37

No thanks!

ColinOfficeTrolley · 19/05/2025 15:50

Fallenoutthewardrobe · 19/05/2025 09:42

He’s incredibly frail now. If you look at how he aged being PM and how much energy and vitality it takes, he physically couldn’t do it now, regardless of your politics.

Must have missed that John Major was hiding the body of an Adonis 😂

EasternStandard · 19/05/2025 15:51

RoseAndGeranium · 19/05/2025 15:23

Has anyone posted this on the thread yet? Feels like the right moment to revisit the time Tony wished the nation Merry Christmas in the style of an aggressive drunk being held back by his wife.

Haha good one

Panterusblackish · 19/05/2025 16:15

I think Tony Blair's reputation is too tarnished.

But I'd like to see Alistair Campbell in the background seeing off the likes of Farage. Now he was as tough as old boots.

notprincehamlet · 19/05/2025 16:18

Sure, why not - I mean, the only thing missing from this shit show is Thatcher's little helper.

SharpLily · 19/05/2025 16:24

YABU. Not only unreasonable but a fucking moron, to be honest.

Bushmillsbabe · 19/05/2025 16:29

Tryingtokeepgoing · 19/05/2025 15:00

Although much of it was smoke and mirrors, funded by off-balance sheet borrowed money that the NHS and education sectors, and therefore taxpayers, are still paying for.

Very much smoke and mirrors.
I was in my first nhs job post qualifying when Blair was in, we were forced to 'massage' waiting list figures to make them look better for reporting, and the brand new PFI hospital I worked in had fewer beds than the older hospital it replaced, and there was huge pressure to discharge patients before they were actually ready, again to make figures look better. The hospital had huge issues with lifts breaking down, doors jamming, the oxygen lines failing etc, but due to contracts they could only be repaired by specific maintenance companies at a highly inflated cost and long delays. I quit after 3 years due to the pressure to make decisions which were not in patients interests, to please 'those at the top'

x2boys · 19/05/2025 17:00

Bushmillsbabe · 19/05/2025 16:29

Very much smoke and mirrors.
I was in my first nhs job post qualifying when Blair was in, we were forced to 'massage' waiting list figures to make them look better for reporting, and the brand new PFI hospital I worked in had fewer beds than the older hospital it replaced, and there was huge pressure to discharge patients before they were actually ready, again to make figures look better. The hospital had huge issues with lifts breaking down, doors jamming, the oxygen lines failing etc, but due to contracts they could only be repaired by specific maintenance companies at a highly inflated cost and long delays. I quit after 3 years due to the pressure to make decisions which were not in patients interests, to please 'those at the top'

Yes me too I recall them building lots of shiney new buildings having an ever increasing management tiers ,with fancy titles, but non of it improved patient care

JohnAmendAll · 19/05/2025 17:33

itsnotabouthepasta · 19/05/2025 09:40

he's a war criminal, so on that basis - no.

Actually, no he's not. That's just baloney put about by people who do not really understand the term.

JohnAmendAll · 19/05/2025 17:35

justkeepswimingswiming · 19/05/2025 09:41

No thank you, my dad had to take part in the Iraq war because of him. He’s a war criminal and deserves to be in prison.

What do you mean he "had to"? Was he the only conscript in HM Forces?

Blueeyedmale · 19/05/2025 17:41

I was too young to vote for him first time round but things I remember people were happy,people had money,money was put into education you didn't have to wait to long to see a doctor or a hospital appointment.

Sadly his legacy will always be Iraq in many people's eyes but life was good for many I don't think we have had that vibe in this country for a very long time.

I've always voted labour but so far this government haven't loved up to the expectations and the promises

scalt · 19/05/2025 17:43

I’m so glad it wasn’t Blair giving the lockdown briefings (yes, I know Boris was terrible). He would have loved being able to micromanage and moralise the public like that, and doing the briefings with the random pauses. And he might have made lockdown permanent, with his reckless spending. His government was the beginning of the nanny state.

Blair said during his tenure “I want every household to have the internet”. Perhaps he knew this might be instrumental in the future.

@christmaspudding43 Regarding the pauses, in one of the Adrian Mole books, when Blair is giving a speech about the late Diana, Adrian wonders if the pauses were timed by Alistair Campbell with a stopwatch.

Thegreyhound · 19/05/2025 17:54

No, he started all this shite!

Thegreyhound · 19/05/2025 17:55

JohnAmendAll · 19/05/2025 17:33

Actually, no he's not. That's just baloney put about by people who do not really understand the term.

he actually is, having caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands on a fabricated premise

Thegreyhound · 19/05/2025 17:57

I’d genuinely rather have John Major, who at least is a thoughtful person with some consistent morality. And that’s speaking as someone who celebrated all night long when the Tories were finally booted out.

RoseAndGeranium · 19/05/2025 18:36

Thegreyhound · 19/05/2025 17:57

I’d genuinely rather have John Major, who at least is a thoughtful person with some consistent morality. And that’s speaking as someone who celebrated all night long when the Tories were finally booted out.

Such an underrated PM. I watched a lot of the Leveson inquiry, back when that was a thing, and he struck me as being the only ex- or current PM interviewed who seemed to grasp and respect the significance of the office. People were always very rude about him but I think he was pretty decent. Blair took all the credit for the Good Friday agreement and so on but Major had set so much of it while he was in office.

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 19/05/2025 18:38

What the morality corrupt TB? A person who openly supported and dragged the UK into a war made up on lies. Ah behave.

BethDuttonYeHaw · 19/05/2025 18:41

Best prime minister in my lifetime.

kirbykirby · 19/05/2025 18:46

Ew. No way. He's responsible for so much of the decline of the UK.

AlorsTimeForWine · 19/05/2025 18:51

Swirlythingy2025 · 19/05/2025 09:37

basically His experience could be valuable in navigating the current complex geopolitical challenges especially at the moment.

Half the problems we are now facing are a direct result of him and Gordon Brown's dickhead miracle economy...

Working tax credits suppressed wages and allowed employers to underpay staff for decades.

His university education policy has also been shown to be more than slightly problematic across the fullness of time....

Add in quantative easing to create the holy trinity.

JimJonesLivesInMyHead · 19/05/2025 19:13

That warmongering bastard should rot in hell

Ponoka7 · 19/05/2025 19:24

BundleBoogie · 19/05/2025 11:23

That may have been something to do with a frantic level of public spending that ended up with Brown having to sell off our gold reserves at rock bottom prices, then there was the infamous note from the outgoing Treasury official Liam Byrne when Labour lost in 2010:

“Former UK Treasury official Liam Byrne left a note for his successor, David Laws, that read: "Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid there is no money. Kind regards – and good luck!"

I’m glad you had a great time though. It’s taken us a while to pay it all off.

He's said that is the biggest regret of his life because it was a joke.

I don't want to dismiss the war as a shame, but it is. Blair's every child/disabled child matters and children's centers were excellent. As were tax credits, I know the argument is that a fair wage should be paid, but that wasn't going to happen and the poverty was terrible. There was much needed investment in the North and life did get temporarily better. We could have addressed immigration etc over the last 12 years, Blair isn't to blame. But he isn't popular and deserves a semi retirement.