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To think that this rude comments/ remarks are very racist ?

131 replies

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 14:32

DS is in year 7 and goes to an independent school. He is new to school and has made many good friends. So DS was invited for a birthday party and was 3 hours late as he had a fixture at school.

While he was going to the party DS was sent number of audio records by a boy who was also invited to the party and was already at birthday boy’s home. In that audio I can hear boys laughing and 2 boys especially mocking and making rude and offensive remarks to my son.

I will phrase it to give you a better understanding of it. (We are of Asian descent and DS was born and brought up in London) I can hear 2 boys saying - “don’t come to the party, play cricket and go home and eat curry”,
”go to your mother and sit with her”. These 2 boys made entire 5 minutes audio mimicking Indian accent, calling my son from his nickname and shaming him for being called that and asking him not to come to party repeatedly and making fun of his haircut. Please note, none of the comments was made by birthday boy so other classmates asking him not to come doesn’t bother DS.

He is very bothered by the comments made by 2 friends about his ethnicity and parents. DS is emotionally and psychologically down. I can see he is broken and this incident had torn him down. As a mother I am furious to see my child sad and what trauma it had caused him. He has never faced this kind of racism/ situation in his entire life.

One of the 2 boys realised his mistake and is really sorry. I am happy that he realised his mistake and promised to be a better friend in future. I appreciate that. However I want to take this matter forward to school and let them handle this situation.

I think that the entire situation was highly racist and needs to be handled properly. What you all think ?

thanks

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Judgejudysno1fan · 18/05/2025 15:35

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 14:50

I am surprised that these 2 boys are children of immigrants themselves. One is Muslim and other I think is Buddhist.

Anyone can be Muslim, not just Asians.
I'm not saying this to sound sparky. Just meant that if he's Asian also, then he is obviously a total wally but these are 11/12yo and need to be taught a lesson either by school or by their parents.

footpath · 18/05/2025 15:36

Schools have enough to deal with and this didn't happen at school.

But the policy says tell the school...

Every school i've worked in would want to know.

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 15:36

Dweetfidilove · 18/05/2025 15:33

It's likely the OP notified them of the fixture and they were happy for him to attend regardless. Not expecting this would open him up to racist abuse of course.

DS was late because he had to go for fixture. Their bus broke down and had to wait 2 and half hours at the middle of nowhere. He really wanted to go as it’s his friend’s party and he wanted him to come as well.

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Koalafan · 18/05/2025 15:38

footpath · 18/05/2025 15:36

Schools have enough to deal with and this didn't happen at school.

But the policy says tell the school...

Every school i've worked in would want to know.

It didn't happen at school, it will be very hard for them to do anything.

CurlewKate · 18/05/2025 15:40

@Olaolaolalola please please
please don’t approach the parents yourself.

Someone2025 · 18/05/2025 15:40

floppybit · 18/05/2025 14:36

You must send the recordings to the school so that they can make the parents of these boys aware of what has happened.

Agree

Mum2jenny · 18/05/2025 15:41

crumblingschools · 18/05/2025 15:33

@Mum2jenny do you understand safeguarding?

Yes, and if after reporting to the police they thought there were further issues, they could inform the school if they deemed it relevant. Schools have enough to deal with without parents abrogating their own responsibilities regarding their children, then expecting schools to deal with issues occurring outwith of the school.

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 15:41

Koalafan · 18/05/2025 15:38

It didn't happen at school, it will be very hard for them to do anything.

But it’s phone group of 4 good friends and the audio is sent to DS. Studying in same class and calling your friend, “go and eat curry at home and play cricket “ is insensitive. I am really happy that school policy states, to be informed to school about such incidents.

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Someone2025 · 18/05/2025 15:41

Mum2jenny · 18/05/2025 15:31

The police would be a more appropriate choice to inform rather than the school imo. I feel ppl are using schools as parents instead of doing their own parenting.

School first, if they don’t do anything then police

katepilar · 18/05/2025 15:41

sesquipedalian · 18/05/2025 14:57

“One of the 2 boys realised his mistake and is really sorry. I am happy that he realised his mistake and promised to be a better friend in future. I appreciate that. However I want to take this matter forward to school and let them handle this situation.”

OP, what do you hope to gain by taking it forward to the school? Doubtless the two boys will be in trouble - which is a bit hard on the boy who has faced up to his wrongdoing and apologised. If you take it to school and they are spoken to/punished, how do you think they will then regard your son? I can’t see it making the situation better, and it is possible that it will also lead to others being less than friendly towards your son. I’d tell your son to avoid the boy who wasn’t sorry, and move on. I certainly don’t think racism is in any way acceptable, but I just wonder whether you might be in danger of making things worse.

I would have thought there are proper ways of dealing with racist bullying at school. Not punishment and talking to, but addressing the whole issue in a positive way, showing the children that its hurtful and teaching them how not to hurt people.

WearyAuldWumman · 18/05/2025 15:42

U53rn8m3ch8ng3 · 18/05/2025 14:36

It didn't happen at school but they're a group of children who go to school together and can be addressed as a group there as well as by parents.

In my experience, the school won't want to know.

They can be made aware of the racist bullying so that they can keep an eye on matters at school, but they won't want to address something that happened elsewhere.

crumblingschools · 18/05/2025 15:43

Think most people are suggesting to tell school, so that they are aware of potential risk issues, not to do the role of parenting. So schools can keep an eye and Msybe do some extra PHSE lessons etc

WearyAuldWumman · 18/05/2025 15:43

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 15:10

Also I went through school’s anti bullying policy and it mentions that all kinds of bullying in and outside school should be immediately reported.

That puts a different gloss on the matter. In that case, the school might well be more proactive.

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 15:44

CurlewKate · 18/05/2025 15:40

@Olaolaolalola please please
please don’t approach the parents yourself.

Yes, definitely I won’t do that.

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katepilar · 18/05/2025 15:45

Koalafan · 18/05/2025 15:38

It didn't happen at school, it will be very hard for them to do anything.

Why? The school is there to educate children, there should be various ways of teaching them whats right and whats wrong. The children are still fairly young so arent necessarily able to tell that what is said at home isnt appropriate.

WearyAuldWumman · 18/05/2025 15:46

TimeForTeaAndToast · 18/05/2025 15:16

Why are you surprised? There are racial and religious hatreds all over the world.

My dad was from Eastern Europe. At school, I was called a half-caste one day. (This was chanted in class whilst the teacher was out of the room.)

There were three other girls with Eastern European dads in the class. Two kept very quiet; the third joined in the chanting... I'm guessing that they were scared that their friends might pick on them.

footpath · 18/05/2025 15:46

@Koalafan why does the policy say tell them?

They will be aware which is important

katepilar · 18/05/2025 15:48

WearyAuldWumman · 18/05/2025 15:42

In my experience, the school won't want to know.

They can be made aware of the racist bullying so that they can keep an eye on matters at school, but they won't want to address something that happened elsewhere.

Imho the school should be addressing the whole racist bullying issue as a whole, not the one particular incident.

WearyAuldWumman · 18/05/2025 15:49

katepilar · 18/05/2025 15:48

Imho the school should be addressing the whole racist bullying issue as a whole, not the one particular incident.

They should, but it depends very much on the school. Given what the OP has said about the school asking to be informed, I'm a bit more hopeful than I was.

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 15:49

katepilar · 18/05/2025 15:41

I would have thought there are proper ways of dealing with racist bullying at school. Not punishment and talking to, but addressing the whole issue in a positive way, showing the children that its hurtful and teaching them how not to hurt people.

I highly emphasise on this. No harsh punishments but making children understand that racial remarks can hurt other people’s feeling and sentiments.

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Mumwithbaggage · 18/05/2025 15:50

We'd want to know in our school so issues could be raised through PSHE and also so we could keep an eye on the situation. I would say to the school that one of the boys has apologised. Children learn best when they are safe and happy.

I hope this is sorted out for your ds and these children learn better behaviour.

Rosscameasdoody · 18/05/2025 15:56

FuzzyPuffling · 18/05/2025 14:35

Nasty, but nothing to do with school as it didn't happen there. I'm afraid it's yours to deal with.
And keep a close eye out for any repeat behaviours.

Edited

Of course it’s a matter for the school. They attend the same school as a group, so the school need to be aware of the incident so they can deal with any recurrence in school hours. They can also reiterate to students that this is racist behaviour and as such is unacceptable.

Someone2025 · 18/05/2025 16:00

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 15:49

I highly emphasise on this. No harsh punishments but making children understand that racial remarks can hurt other people’s feeling and sentiments.

Their parents also need to be involved as there is no point reprimanding the kids if the mentality is still in place in the homes

blubbyblub · 18/05/2025 16:01

Koalafan · 18/05/2025 15:29

I would inform the police.
Stop trying to imply racism that's not there.

Edited

What part of go home eat curry and mimicking the Indian accent for the duration of the recording is not racist to you.

pretty sure even a neo nazi would acknowledge this is racist.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 18/05/2025 16:05

FuzzyPuffling · 18/05/2025 14:35

Nasty, but nothing to do with school as it didn't happen there. I'm afraid it's yours to deal with.
And keep a close eye out for any repeat behaviours.

Edited

Incorrect. Schools can impose reasonable sanction pupils for bad behaviour short of criminal activity, even if that takes place away from the school site.

Edited to say that the DfE has issued guidance in this regard