Parents hate the Childfree

[Youstolemygoddamnhouse]

Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

Okay. Weird. I dunno why you’re offended by what I said. I didn’t say other parents weren’t fantastic. That wasn’t the question OP asked. They asked if people with children hate the childfree, to which I replied “No, I have many childfree friends. They are fantastic.” I literally just answered the question. I wasn’t excluding or insulting people who have children. Funnily enough, I am one of those.

I get to have different kinds of relationships with the childfree and my friends with children. This is a great and beautiful thing. I’m not ranking them, just appreciating and making note that having childfree friends, as a parent, is a beautiful thing. I didn’t think I needed to specifically highlight “other parents are great” when being by asked if, as a parent, I hate childfree people specifically.

Offended?

you read a difference of view as someone being offended

good grief

How is it a difference of view? I didn’t say “my childfree friends are much better than those with children” I simply said they are fantastic. You saw this and felt the need to post a paragraph on how I was wrong.

You assumed my opinion without me even posting more than a passing statement in one direction. Perhaps you would prefer everyone only make fully inclusive statements from now on. I love grapes, they are fantastic - but please be aware I also think strawberries are amazing too and my fondness for grapes in no way disrespects or diminishes my equal love for them 🤡

It is a difference in view
but either way, I can very much assure you… no offence taken 😂

I have always had friends who were child free - I just never thought about it.

Me neither
it’s neither here nor there for me

I think tbis thread rather does the opposite.

Exactly

that poster clearly had not bothered to read the thread but just ploughed In anyway

No, I would never allow my kids to do that, but of someone's toddler was having a hard day and did that to me, and the parents were trying, I would probably just laugh.

There's a middle ground between "kids should be not seen or heard until they are 18" and "kids running ramant". Compared to many countries, the UK tends toward the former.

@Ontothenextac If you are being honest , how often has this actually happened to you? Be honest I said!!

I’d say it would average once a year, and that’s going to pricey restaurants to try and avoid situations like this. However, it’s not just isolated to me, happens to others I know, so even if the same frequency for them, it adds up!

The best was a friend, who also has adult kids, to whom this occurred. She picked up toddler, took back to parents table and plonked them directly on a cold plate of something (can’t recall what food it was now). Parents went ballistic, she pointed out they only had themselves to blame and to call the police if they felt the need, then returned to eat dinner in peace away from grubby little hands grabbing at the tablecloth while parents sat there smiling believing it was cute.

I your friend set a child ON a plate of food? What the actual?

Ugh, yes, what an incredibly nasty thing to do.

I have 4 children and my best friend is child free. I certainly don't hate her and it honestly never crossed my mind that it could be an issue, either for me or her.

This ^ No need for it. It is always unsolicited advice about their hyperthetical children as well. Eyeballing a particular sibling of mine! 😫

I couldn't care a less about people who haven't got kids, but stop it with the unsolicited advice and whinging about the very existence of children, the judgement is ridiculous. Some children have additional needs, ND/SEN etc. Some are just badly behaved, because of poor parenting. You don't know, you see a snapshot of somebody's day, so keep your judgement to yourself.

Disclaimer: I realise there are lots of people without kids that don't do the above.

The best was a friend, who also has adult kids, to whom this occurred. She picked up toddler, took back to parents table and plonked them directly on a cold plate of something (can’t recall what food it was now). Parents went ballistic, she pointed out they only had themselves to blame and to call the police if they felt the need, then returned to eat dinner in peace away from grubby little hands grabbing at the tablecloth while parents sat there smiling believing it was cute.

because that definitely happened 😂

@HoppingPavlova on average once a year at pricey restaurants you experience children coming up to your table and trying to grab things?

That poster asked you to be honest!

Yep.

The only thing the storyteller missed was 'and then everyone clapped' 😂

You are making a sweeping generalisation based on two posts on mumsnet.
I remember the To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children post, because I voted YABU. I am a mother of 4 of varying ages between 28 and 14. I love my own very much, I love my nieces, nephews, great nieces and nephews etc and if my own children ever decide to have kids, I'm sure I will love them too but I have no interest in 'other' children. I have very little interest in other people to be fair but I'm just generally unsociable. I probably prefer people who are childfree as there is no expectation that I also have to interact with their children. What annoys me about some childfree people I know, is that they insist that everyone is bothered they are childfree. I don't know about anyone else but I have enough going on in my own life to be bothered or care about whether others have children or not.

I don’t divide my friends and people in my life into those who have children and those who don’t. It’s a non-issue for me. I’ve never heard of anyone who does this. I have children and dislike people who have kids if they’re arseholes. This thread is bizarre.

@Youstolemygoddamnhouse your post is ridiculous because you are lumping millions of people into one of two pots… child free or not child free.

and that’s ridiculous because of course in both of those groups will be people who like or dislike children.

We do not all share one homogeneous thought.

🙄

I admit I get bothered by people who expect me to be as invested in their kids as they are. As a parent I understand they think that their kids are the greatest things ever, especially when they've just had them or they are reaching milestones.
My group of friends have regular girls nights and I struggle when it becomes all about our kids because it's our time to be us. (That probably sounds selfish AF) but I was me before I became mum. I think a lot of that becomes second when you give birth. My youngest hits double digits this year and I am so done with baby stuff, toddler stuff etc.

I agree. No one would actually be that nasty to a small child. I might give the parents the hairy eyeball, but I would coo over and then redirect the kid.

@Andthenextafterthat because that definitely happened

Well, I wasn’t there, was just told so ???? What I will say is that, when I have been out with this friend they have done things way more than that, which I have observed with my own eyes so, based on that, I have no reason to think it’s not true. They take zero shit and will humour no one. Not a bad thing.

should have added most recent story of same friend. Having a bbq, lots of people, some kids who were mainly in pool. Some kid left shoes laying about in ‘walkway’ area. Friend shouted out whoever owned shoes to move them as in way and someone could trip, both up where we/shoes were, then went down to pool and made same announcement. No one moved shoes so they picked them up, went down yard and threw them over back fence. Saw that with own eyes. When leaving parent/child realised no shoes, friend told them where they were and why they had put them there. Heard that with my own ears.

@Andthenextafterthat because that definitely happened

That. Is. Being. Honest.

I think the problem is it’s ‘only’ been when we have an early 6pm session as that’s the easier time if both meeting in city directly after work as opposed to hanging around for a more normal session time. That’s the time we find kids may be present and this occurs. Never had this at a later time.