Parents hate the Childfree

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Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

Not really,more having a foot in both camps. I tried to have children,that is part of my life story.

so make up a new descriptor!

it’s not a “box” and it is just I suppose a shorthand descriptor

you don’t have to describe yourself as such.

It was a film. Children were 7 or 8. A film can be PG and still not be terribly interesting for young children. It was a Saturday night. And do you really think they would have been allowed to run riot if it had been a school trip? You are really clutching at straws now.

So it was a pg film
during the day?

im going to google said film! Intrigued

As a childfree/childless person (I would prefer a neutral term), I don't feel this at all, except from some nativist religious extremists on Twitter. Nobody in real life makes me feel bad for not having children.

No. Saturday night. Independent arty cinema.

Presuming the 1996 Twelfth night movie you are referring to

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Yes, the 1996 film "Twelfth Night" is generally considered suitable for children. While it has a PG rating due to mild thematic elements, the film's content is otherwise quite wholesome and family-friendly

it was 30 years ago, it really has haunted you!

in any event it’s describe as wholesome family fun
and a PG

Even if it was, the children were obviously bored and should not be allowed to run riot, no?

Absolutely not

inconsiderate parents

just like the inconsiderate adult couple in the film i saw

I think your first friend is not using the term the way it's meant, but in any case I think you are right to point out that it's not simply a choice or simply not a choice. There is a grey area. For example, I'm single because I was single in my 30s. I see that as mainly being involuntary, but I suppose that had I wanted children badly enough I would have gone to a donor or somehow found a man and settled for him just to have children or had children in a casual relationship, so it's not a straightforward 'through choice' or not.

I don't understand the obsession so many parents have about old age. It's like it's the only positive they can think of about having kids to try and make the childfree feel bad. "Look at me I'll have all my kids around me when I'm old and you'll be lonely" such a romanticised view of old age anyway. Most likely we'll all be in a care home and have no idea if we ever had kids or not.

That last sentence really made me laugh 🤣, in all the right ways. You are bang on the money.

It's really not the only positive thing. Nor an obsession. The context in which it was referred was pretty clear.

It's a crude example of one potentially perceived benefit, just to compare against the equally crude perceived benefit of more free cash.

It's all getting a bit straw clutchy and deliberate hyperbole. Just a normal conversation and has to be regaled as "obsession"

I think a lot of people without children were open to the idea at one point but it didn't happen and they have made the best of it and embraced a child free life. Many of them give the impression they never wanted children because admitting that they once did and had to let go of the idea and having people tilt their heads sympathetically is painful.

That's not to say that some people just genuinely never wanted any.

Well it's probably the number one thing childfree people hear. Just an odd thing to focus on. And it's clear parents think they have the upper hand because they will have something "meaningful" in the end whilst the childfree just have their cash and holidays.

What's clear is that's all you're insistent on hearing, regardless of what's being said.

Well, some older kids would love Twelfth Night.

I'd probably prefer that to the phone scrollers, the drink slurpers, the talkers, and the amorous couples.

It was a well behaved adult audience. The only thing spoiling it was the children.

And what conclusion are you drawing from this? That sometimes people are inconsiderate? I don't think it says much about kids per se.

DH/I are parents but ours are adults now, and I do find there is a lot of hate from parents and accusations of not having kids/understanding kids which is laughable. We just didn’t let our kids run riot and impact on others with an entitled justification of they are ‘spirited/know their own minds/don’t want to stifle their individuality/insert other justifications for bad behaviour here.

We didn’t foist our kids bad behaviour on anyone else so expect the same. And yes, this meant things like not taking them on planes etc until an age when we knew they would, without doubt, be well behaved and not disturb others. And yes, that means sometimes they missed being introduced to older relatives and so forth. So, we had things like road trip holidays where crying babies and all bad behaviour of bored toddlers/kids was confined to our car and then really shitty ‘family resorts’ where we were all in the same boat. These days parents take kids on planes to nice resorts where people pay good money, let them run riot in restaurants, visiting your table and when you express displeasure at a child with hands all over your table trying to grab things you are given a mouthful, talked to like you are childless, told that this is ‘cute’ , you should somehow be bloody grateful their child is there doing that, and you don’t understand children, and good luck in your old age etc.

So, yep, parents and dog owners these days definitely hate people they don’t perceive to be other parents or dog owners.

Exactly
it’s so odd
I posted how a cinema visited for me was ruined by an adult couple next to me.
i don’t extrapolate anything other than that couple were inconsiderate plonkers

The film was a PG described as “wholesome family fun”

I am sorry that your experience THIRTy years ago was spilt by some inconsiderate parents but…. Are you really using this as an example… of what?! @KimberleyClark

Turns out it was the 1996 film that poster was referring to
so an experience 30 years ago
at a cinema watching a PG “wholesome family fun” described film!

And all I extrapolated was that the parents were maybe being optimistic to think young children aged 7-8 would find a Shakespeare film entertaining. And they didn’t, and they subsequently ruined the film for everyone else, which proves my point. And all this “what about adults” - sheer whataboutery. And completely beside the point.