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Parents hate the Childfree

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Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 08:18

Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

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KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:32

@ttcat37 here’s a couple.

It's nothing to do with having to rely on your children. It's having a family of your own. Grandchildren great grandchildren all the rest of it that makes older peoples lives so much better You will be lonely. You can't say you won't regret it because you arnt there yet. That is when your decision will come home to roost.

I don't really see the point in creating a thread on mumsnet about the good things of not being a mum ? That's your choice and good luck to you. Each to their own. It may be great now. When you are an old lady trust me it really won't be. That's when you will have regrets.

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 17:37

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 16:52

Here is another one.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/childfree-mumsnetters/5164641-best-part-of-being-childfree?page=1

Read the whole thread, as taking out ad quoting random posts won’t give context.

Look out for the parent saying, in response to a poster saying they felt not having to change nappies is a benefit of not having children, that they ought to get therapy and have a child.

Edited

I'm on page 3. To date there is nothing other than much bickering of:

"I'm glad I don't have to deal with poo."

"You would haven't a child, just so you don't have to change nappies?"

"No, that's one of the reasons"

"Oh, it's such a small part of childhood to make a lifelong decision on"

Then poo is trauma. And puke is triggering. And therapy. And ohhhh you hate me. Does it progress from this, because there's nothing of merit from either perspective after 75 comments.

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:37

JenniferBooth · 18/05/2025 17:31

Ah @KimberleyClark i see they are using the same tactics on you

Yes they are.

JenniferBooth · 18/05/2025 17:38

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:37

Yes they are.

Proves the point though doesnt it Flowers

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:39

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 17:37

I'm on page 3. To date there is nothing other than much bickering of:

"I'm glad I don't have to deal with poo."

"You would haven't a child, just so you don't have to change nappies?"

"No, that's one of the reasons"

"Oh, it's such a small part of childhood to make a lifelong decision on"

Then poo is trauma. And puke is triggering. And therapy. And ohhhh you hate me. Does it progress from this, because there's nothing of merit from either perspective after 75 comments.

See my post at the top of this page.

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 17:39

JenniferBooth · 18/05/2025 17:38

Proves the point though doesnt it Flowers

Lol.

You provided a thread with nothing in it.

And when you're called out for a thread with nothing in it, claim people can't see the imaginary posts as a tactic.

Yes, it quite proves something.

steff13 · 18/05/2025 17:39
Think Mad Men GIF

I think there's another option.

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 17:40

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:32

@ttcat37 here’s a couple.

It's nothing to do with having to rely on your children. It's having a family of your own. Grandchildren great grandchildren all the rest of it that makes older peoples lives so much better You will be lonely. You can't say you won't regret it because you arnt there yet. That is when your decision will come home to roost.

I don't really see the point in creating a thread on mumsnet about the good things of not being a mum ? That's your choice and good luck to you. Each to their own. It may be great now. When you are an old lady trust me it really won't be. That's when you will have regrets.

Edited

This one? Is this on the poo thread?

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:40

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 17:39

Lol.

You provided a thread with nothing in it.

And when you're called out for a thread with nothing in it, claim people can't see the imaginary posts as a tactic.

Yes, it quite proves something.

I have actually provided some quotes at the top of this page.

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:41

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 17:40

This one? Is this on the poo thread?

Yes it is. Two different quotes.

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 17:43

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:40

I have actually provided some quotes at the top of this page.

(sorry I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to the other poster who came up with absolutely nothing, and insists her lack of anything is a tactic. You may well have something, I'm not tarring you with the same brush... Yet Wink)

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 17:58

TheWorminLabyrinth · 18/05/2025 16:52

Is this an example of that empathy that pours out of all parents? Seems like a personal attack to me, but what do I know.

Seems like a personal attack to me too.

whippy1981 · 18/05/2025 18:01

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 14:53

“Friends”? “Relatives”?

bloody hell

distance yourself
get new friends

Happens to all who are childfree. The comments are made pretty often until you reach menopause age and then it calms down.

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 18:17

TheWorminLabyrinth · 18/05/2025 16:52

Is this an example of that empathy that pours out of all parents? Seems like a personal attack to me, but what do I know.

How do you know I’m a parent?

and again with the hyperbole…. Who has said that empathy pours out of all parents?

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 18:19

JenniferBooth · 18/05/2025 16:28

So we have now gone from "i cant see anything on that thread" to "thats what teadi was referring to"

What on earth are you on about

Because i see this quite as meaning something very different to you re no child free person should be eligible for social housing, why on earth would I think it supported your argument?

Honestly, you’re difficult to discuss this with because well…

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 18:21

Do you have the link to those threads you quote from @KimberleyClark ?

Roxietrees · 18/05/2025 18:25

Of course I don’t hate child free people. However it annoys the fuck out of me when childfree people or people that had young children a very long time ago try and tell me how to parent. Also annoying from someone with kids, but slightly less so

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 18:35

JenniferBooth · 18/05/2025 17:29

Proof beyond all doubt that you didnt read the thread, It was posted the same year as my Silver Wedding anniversary Been with DH since 1992. His disabilities are mentioned in the thread because they are pertinent to the subject that thread is about
Oh and its also proof that you and others were getting off on pissing me about and getting off on me copying and pasting posts over. Claiming you have read the thread and there was nothing to see. Well if you had you would damn well know im not single.

because you couldn’t have told a porkie? Hence me saying “I will take a punt”

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 18:37

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 16:52

Here is another one.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/childfree-mumsnetters/5164641-best-part-of-being-childfree?page=1

Read the whole thread, as taking out ad quoting random posts won’t give context.

Look out for the parent saying, in response to a poster saying they felt not having to change nappies is a benefit of not having children, that they ought to get therapy and have a child.

Edited

Surely you can use a better example than one post in a thread from 9 months ago?

Dangermoo · 18/05/2025 19:11

This is all very childish tit for tat.

stclementine · 18/05/2025 19:12

whippy1981 · 18/05/2025 18:01

Happens to all who are childfree. The comments are made pretty often until you reach menopause age and then it calms down.

I’m 51 this year and yes, it’s all started to calm down. For me the worst time was my mid-40’s when I suddenly acquired lots of unwanted advice about how I’d better hurry up and pop one out before it got too late. As someone who was infertile at 30 I don’t see how that was biologically possible.
I wasn’t that fussed anyway. If it happened then I’d have probably liked being a parent but it didn’t so I didn’t get to find out.
I don’t think that most parents do really care if someone is childfree or not. But there are always the sneery ones who like to think that they are superior because they reproduced. I guess that before kids they were superior about other things because the real divide, in my opinion, is between normal people getting on with life….and complete arseholes who have to sneer and snide and insult.

Elseaknows · 18/05/2025 19:15

I don't hate child free people. I highly dislike people who state they hate children. You are entitled to have kids, you are entitled to remain child free. You are not entitled to a child free world. Children exist and I am getting so pissed off with the amount of crap I see about children making noise, children being on planes, children being in public, they exist and will continue to.
Decent parents will raise their children to be respectful, decent and kind human beings. You have to tolerate all different types of people. Treat everyone kindly.

All this talk about certain people only being allowed this and that....everyone should be entitled to safe and clean housing, having enough money to live and thrive with, that shouldn't come with terms and conditions if you have kids.

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 19:24

Rumbley · 18/05/2025 18:21

Do you have the link to those threads you quote from @KimberleyClark ?

I already posted it,but here it is again

www.mumsnet.com/talk/childfree-mumsnetters/5164641-best-part-of-being-childfree?page=1

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 19:25

It's nothing to do with having to rely on your children.

Ok?

It's having a family of your own. Grandchildren great grandchildren all the rest of it that makes older peoples lives so much better

Subjective. Most grandparents adore their GC. Some don't. This is a fairly standard opinion.

You will be lonely.

Probably more so than if you had children, yes. Some children become estranged, but that's the exception not the rule. Our peers die with us as we age. If you're the last one left with no family to visit, it probably is lonely.

You can't say you won't regret it because you arnt there yet. That is when your decision will come home to roost.

More accurate is that you can't know either way. But on the majority of society, we like to be social creatures, so children in elderly age probably is a plus, on balance, but not reason enough to go through a lifetime of raising them just for this.

I don't really see the point in creating a thread on mumsnet about the good things of not being a mum?

Yeah I've always thought this was a faux naive "sorry, what's the problem with me telling a load of parents that parenting is shite?" You wouldn't walk into a rugby stadium to announce rugby was shite then stand then pretending to be shocked that the rugby players don't seem welcoming.

That's your choice and good luck to you. Each to their own.

Yep .

It may be great now. When you are an old lady trust me it really won't be. That's when you will have regrets.

There's probably truth in this. Like it or not, we are predominantly social and in youth when we can do as we please, wherever we like. In final years, it's more about who can come to you. And children are the ones who will be there, in most cases.

Please forgive if I need you to further point out why these posts that are such great examples of the hatred experienced by the childfree? Because I see an opinion at best, some parts more founded than others, but nothing to suggest hate?

KimberleyClark · 18/05/2025 19:30

HopscotchBanana · 18/05/2025 19:25

It's nothing to do with having to rely on your children.

Ok?

It's having a family of your own. Grandchildren great grandchildren all the rest of it that makes older peoples lives so much better

Subjective. Most grandparents adore their GC. Some don't. This is a fairly standard opinion.

You will be lonely.

Probably more so than if you had children, yes. Some children become estranged, but that's the exception not the rule. Our peers die with us as we age. If you're the last one left with no family to visit, it probably is lonely.

You can't say you won't regret it because you arnt there yet. That is when your decision will come home to roost.

More accurate is that you can't know either way. But on the majority of society, we like to be social creatures, so children in elderly age probably is a plus, on balance, but not reason enough to go through a lifetime of raising them just for this.

I don't really see the point in creating a thread on mumsnet about the good things of not being a mum?

Yeah I've always thought this was a faux naive "sorry, what's the problem with me telling a load of parents that parenting is shite?" You wouldn't walk into a rugby stadium to announce rugby was shite then stand then pretending to be shocked that the rugby players don't seem welcoming.

That's your choice and good luck to you. Each to their own.

Yep .

It may be great now. When you are an old lady trust me it really won't be. That's when you will have regrets.

There's probably truth in this. Like it or not, we are predominantly social and in youth when we can do as we please, wherever we like. In final years, it's more about who can come to you. And children are the ones who will be there, in most cases.

Please forgive if I need you to further point out why these posts that are such great examples of the hatred experienced by the childfree? Because I see an opinion at best, some parts more founded than others, but nothing to suggest hate?

You asked for evidence that parents go on the Mumsnetters without children board to take a pop at childfree/childless posters. I provided it. Two examples of horrible posts.