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AIBU?

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To be uneasy about Dh and his very friendly coworker

378 replies

Booklover12345 · 17/05/2025 22:29

Late last night my DH got an email ping from a coworker which woke me up. We were in bed. I asked what it was at that time, he clearly didn’t want to tell me but said it was E and she was just saying thanks for a laugh during their coffee break that day. I asked to look and it said what a really great friend he is and how he makes her day and the job such fun and she loves being in his team and working on this new project together. I knew they got on well but I was uneasy that she sent this email. It sparked a big row, he got cross, said it’s all above board and platonic and it was a nice thing for her to send him. If it hadn’t woken me then I would never have known which worries me too.
AIBU to think it is not on for her to send this and for him to be ok with it. Or am I being unfair to her and jealous, as he says?

OP posts:
ZenNudist · 18/05/2025 09:08

I agree its the start of an EA. Did he reply?

Debtfreegoals · 18/05/2025 09:08

My husband works mostly with females and I had to get used to the friendly relationships that come with it. However, this email was more than platonic and probably a little unprofessional. The fact she sent it from a personal account at a later hour is suspicious as it’s clear she doesn’t want it on a work email record.

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:08

MmeChoufleur · 18/05/2025 09:08

To me it’s no different to seeing a woman draped all over your DH in a pub. You wouldn’t just stand back and watch her trying to sit on his knee and stroke his face. I wouldn’t think it was insane to say something.

You see a text the same as someone dressed over your husband's knee? You really need help.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 18/05/2025 09:08

To be clear, I have male friends. I get messages about all sorts. TV recommendations, stuff to do with shared hobbies, just stuff.

But if one of them sent me a midnight message telling me how great I am, and how I make his day, that would be a line crossed and I’d think, “Oh fuck.”

Guinessandafire · 18/05/2025 09:10

Spiderwomann · 18/05/2025 08:53

You're saying people never have affairs with people they know are married? Also nothing to indicate he's told her he's married either, she might assume he's single.

He'll have told her how crap his marriage is, she'll have told him about how rubbish her relationship is .

They are at least having an 'emotional ' affair. People really do think that this is OK, because it's not physically cheating.

Sending an email late at night to a personal email address , with this kind of sentiment..I can't believe that wouldn't concern some people.

The DH version of platonic is probably that they haven't made it physical, but that is not a platonic message or behaviour.

Butchyrestingface · 18/05/2025 09:11

BlueEyedBogWitch · 18/05/2025 09:08

To be clear, I have male friends. I get messages about all sorts. TV recommendations, stuff to do with shared hobbies, just stuff.

But if one of them sent me a midnight message telling me how great I am, and how I make his day, that would be a line crossed and I’d think, “Oh fuck.”

And then you've got your wide-awake partner over your shoulder demanding to see the message.

Erk. I'd be shutting that 'friend' down too.

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:11

Guinessandafire · 18/05/2025 09:10

He'll have told her how crap his marriage is, she'll have told him about how rubbish her relationship is .

They are at least having an 'emotional ' affair. People really do think that this is OK, because it's not physically cheating.

Sending an email late at night to a personal email address , with this kind of sentiment..I can't believe that wouldn't concern some people.

The DH version of platonic is probably that they haven't made it physical, but that is not a platonic message or behaviour.

God you're really paranoid. You know it becomes abusive when someone is this threatened in a relationship by everyday interactions.

indianques · 18/05/2025 09:12

GreyCarpet · 18/05/2025 08:47

it said what a really great friend he is and how he makes her day and the job such fun and she loves being in his team and working on this new project together.

I have a married male colleague 17 years my junior. We've both said stuff like this to each other because, tbh, it's true.

But would I email it to him, late at night? No. Or put it in any message? No.

It's a very subtle difference.

My colleague and I express these sentiments to each other in the moment, when we feel it.

Sending an email or any message late at night does several things.

It communicates "I'm thinking about you now."

At that time.of night, most people would be in bed and/or with their partners, so.it also communicates, "I'm in bed," or, "I'm thinking of you when I'm with my partner," which is far more intimate and not times when we are usually thinking of our colleagues. So it blurs the work/home boundary.

It puts herself in her colleagues mind at a time when she ought not be there.

It creates a permanent record of the feeling - people like to reread messages that make them feel good.

Put it this way, my colleague has said to me in person how much he values me, what a good friend I am and how he'd miss me if I left (it's on the cards). We still work at the same place, but not together on a daily basis as we did until this year, and he's also told me he misses working with me directly and I know he sometimes seeks me out during the day for a chat. And I'm the same.

All fine.

But I would not want to receive a late night message saying similar because it would feel inappropriate and he wouldn't send one because it would be inappropriate. And the reverse is also true.

This is an excellent post.

It communicates "I'm thinking about you now."

At that time.of night, most people would be in bed and/or with their partners, so.it also communicates, "I'm in bed," or, "I'm thinking of you when I'm with my partner," which is far more intimate and not times when we are usually thinking of our colleagues. So it blurs the work/home boundary

Totally agree with this. There are some very naive people on this thread. I've been in the workplace for almost 40 years, and the stuff I've seen happen between colleagues would make your toes curl. This woman is after Op's man. She's thinking about him late at night on a Friday, so much so that she feels she needs to make contact at that late hour. Sure as eggs is eggs, she didn't send a similar message to Claire the admin clerk, or 70 year old Jerry who was also on the project.

hangingonfordearlife1 · 18/05/2025 09:13

Booklover12345 · 18/05/2025 07:30

She sent it to his personal email account not work one and he looks at them on his phone so it’s not even through a work channel.

my colleagues don’t even have my personal email. my best friend is a guy at work. his wife works with us. my husband knows him we message memes late at night. he’s 10 years younger than me and i definitely do not see him in that way.
i love his children and he has had a massive part in my kids lives growing up (we work in a school) men and women can just be mates

hazelnutvanillalatte · 18/05/2025 09:14

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 08:36

Yeah, no. Sometimes people are just talking to each other. Really, work on your self esteem. It's awful being with someone who is so threatened by your friendships with other people. It's exhausting.

Delusional

indianques · 18/05/2025 09:14

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:11

God you're really paranoid. You know it becomes abusive when someone is this threatened in a relationship by everyday interactions.

"Everyday" isn't so late at night that you are already in bed. You are so naive.

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:14

hangingonfordearlife1 · 18/05/2025 09:13

my colleagues don’t even have my personal email. my best friend is a guy at work. his wife works with us. my husband knows him we message memes late at night. he’s 10 years younger than me and i definitely do not see him in that way.
i love his children and he has had a massive part in my kids lives growing up (we work in a school) men and women can just be mates

I think you'd have to see men as more than an income and sperms bank to appreciate why a woman might want a friendship with one.

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:15

indianques · 18/05/2025 09:14

"Everyday" isn't so late at night that you are already in bed. You are so naive.

One night isnt every night. Really, get help. Learn that you are worthy and you won't be so scared and controlling. You'll have better relationships for it.

MmeChoufleur · 18/05/2025 09:15

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:08

You see a text the same as someone dressed over your husband's knee? You really need help.

A text saying “Cheer for that mate 👍🏼” is absolutely fine. A gushing email late at night is basically a green light. Take it from someone who has been bitten on the arse by being the ‘cool wife’ on numerous occasions.

Onlywhenilaff · 18/05/2025 09:15

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:11

God you're really paranoid. You know it becomes abusive when someone is this threatened in a relationship by everyday interactions.

Are you married? Have you been for a long time without any incident?

You really are looking down on all of us with healthy boundaries, whether you mean to or not. Just because you are secure, not jealous and it’s worked for you doesn’t mean that everyone has to sing from your songbook.

Some men stumble into things, and walking away from your life partner as they stray off the track for a moment is not an option for some. Much better to try and ensure the straying does not happen in the first place.

The number of women who think like you, and never get burned, must be under 5%. It must be nice up there.

MumWifeOther · 18/05/2025 09:17

He might not have done anything wrong yet, and might never actually do so, but she definitely wants him. He needs to shut her down very quickly and you need to be very clear about this. Don’t be overly emotional , just matter of fact and then keep a very close eye on any suspicious behaviour.

ButterCrackers · 18/05/2025 09:17

This has overstepped professional boundaries. Remind your DH that she could use his replies against him at any point if they friendly replies as opposed to work replies. He is stupid to be allowing this person into his life.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 18/05/2025 09:17

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:14

I think you'd have to see men as more than an income and sperms bank to appreciate why a woman might want a friendship with one.

Did you say you’re a midwife?

Does your misogyny hinder that at all?

Lins77 · 18/05/2025 09:18

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:02

Probably because he comes with an angry, possessive wife?

Unpleasant thing to say.

OP has concerns, which the majority of the posters on the thread find legitimate and understandable.

The concerns may or may not be justified but it's not unreasonable to have them.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 18/05/2025 09:18

I’m starting to wonder if MOH is an MRA.

Lins77 · 18/05/2025 09:19

BlueEyedBogWitch · 18/05/2025 09:18

I’m starting to wonder if MOH is an MRA.

Certainly seems very angry at women.

MyOliveHelper · 18/05/2025 09:20

Onlywhenilaff · 18/05/2025 09:15

Are you married? Have you been for a long time without any incident?

You really are looking down on all of us with healthy boundaries, whether you mean to or not. Just because you are secure, not jealous and it’s worked for you doesn’t mean that everyone has to sing from your songbook.

Some men stumble into things, and walking away from your life partner as they stray off the track for a moment is not an option for some. Much better to try and ensure the straying does not happen in the first place.

The number of women who think like you, and never get burned, must be under 5%. It must be nice up there.

It sounds like you've had alwaful experiences with men? Was your father a cheater?

Yes I've been in two long term relationships. Your boundaries aren't healthy, they are fear based control mechanisms to alleviate how threatened you feel when your partner bonds with anyone else. They won't stop you getting hurt because you are hurt by normal interactions that your partner has with other people. You'll experience that hurt more often, because even receiving a text makes you feel violated. So how could he even think about grabbing a drink, or sitting with them for lunch, when you can't handle the thought of a text?

Honestly I was with a very jealous and insecure man and I ended up just resenting his existence. He was burdensome and annoying and eventually, dangerous. Don't take his route. Get yourself some psychological help now.

Westfacing · 18/05/2025 09:21

How are his emails 'pinging'?

Moveoverdarlin · 18/05/2025 09:21

I’d just tell him ‘Well if you say it’s all above board, then I’ll just have to trust you won’t I? But let me tell you now, I’ll be watching you like a fucking hawk and if there’s a whiff of something inappropriate with this girl, that’s it, done, you find a new home and a new wife. Because if you think I’m some downtrodden wife that puts up with that sort of shit you are very mistaken. Oh, and don’t think I won’t contact her either. So just go careful, she could fuck up your entire life - marriage, work, family.

But like you said she’s just emailing your personal account late at night on a weekend because she’s very professional and grateful to be in your team. Ha! We have nothing to worry about then, do we?

GreyCarpet · 18/05/2025 09:21

BlueEyedBogWitch · 18/05/2025 09:18

I’m starting to wonder if MOH is an MRA.

Or maybe just a woman protesting too much because she's been faced with this situation and has chosen to take this line as self protection.