Woman declared legally dead is being kept alive due to state’s abortion laws

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Anyone see this story?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/15/pregnant-georgia-woman-brain-dead-abortion-law

TLTR
US women is being kept alive on life support due to abortion laws. Woman was 9 weeks pregnant when she became brain dead. Family have no say in the matter and do not want this. The foetus if it survives may have life long health conditions and suffer from brain damage. Family are also having to pay for medical fees occurred and also for future birth fees.

I am being unreasonable to say WTF. Where is the outcry about this? This actually happened in an episode of The Handmaid’s tale.

YABU - this is the law, law needs to be upheld even after death
YANBU - WTF. Women are not safe even after death.

I agree if I was in the second trimester. In the first I'm more on the fence. Saying that, I wouldn't be suffering, and where I can I'd prefer to choose life.

It would be good if we could record our preferences for things like this during the booking in appointment.

"Your opinion and the popularity of it in certain countries is why this is happening. You're allowed your opinion, we're all allowed to point out the consequences of it."

The opinion of a random Mumsnet poster or indeed anyone in the UK or outside this particular state are completely irrelevant.

Last I looked America is a democracy and the laws of each state (on abortion or anything else ) are decided by officials they elect.

Unfortunately this means you have to be in favour of women dying in agony from ectopic pregnancies. Or dying from loss of blood when they start to abort spontaneously and their bodies just keep bleeding until they are exsanguinated, in cases in which a D&C would save their lives. 100% anti abortion really is not a stance I would feel comfortable holding.

The left could have codified them so they couldn't be tampered with. But they chose not to.

There's a huge likelihood of the child being seriously disabled (if he or she survives.) Personally, I have a horror of being kept in a vegetative state, and if I was pregnant I'd rather we went together then be kept alive but die as soon as my child was born, who may follow soon after anyway.

ETA: I didn't even think about that when I was pregnant with DS. I didn't need to think about it, nothing happened, but I should have made an advance directive.

You do know that’s nonsense, right? The way Trump’s bulldozing his way over the US Constitution nothing is beyond being tampered with.

Pro-life types are pretty much Irredeemable under normal circumstances but fuck me, this is just horrific.

It is utterly horrifying and really shows us how many view women - as vessels for reproduction. They can’t even give us dignity in death. Her poor family.

Out of curiosity, why is this considered so horrific?

Thinking abortion is sad doesn't make you 'anti abortion.' Pro choice doesn't mean thinking abortion is a good time. It just supports women's access to necessary healthcare.

Not the 'Left' some people.

Plenty of people in the Labour Party eg do not/ have never thought men could be women etc (eg Professor Lord Winston). They, the Left, have campaigned for women's rights - equal pay eg in Teaching, maternity leave, the famous trial re orchestral recruitment ( listening to a person hidden so without knowing their sex, increased the number of women playing in orchestras), access to equal training opportunities for women ( eg abolition of the women's quota in Medicine), blind applications forms ( stopping discrimination due to names, age, sex) abolition of access to most colleges ( Oxbridge).etc etc.

Incidentally the Communist Party is and has always been quite sure that men can't become women ( that this argument is a distraction from the real problem the exploitation of the working class by an often corrupt Capitalist Class / Aristocracy ). They are left surely.

As for the US Democrats, in the UK and in most European Countries would they be considered 'left'? No of course not.

It's so awful. I watched her mother talking on the news the family weren't consulted. And the doctors don't know if the baby will be brain damaged or severely disabled, or even if he'll survive. It's horrific. She also said the medical bill is escalating and they're planning to keep her alive for another month at least. I actually can't believe this is happening in 2025

Yes of course, I feel for her family too. I cannot imagine what they are going through.

If the government (law) insists on keeping her alive in order for the baby to survive and it’s against the families wishes then the government should be paying the hospital fees and any care for the child thereafter if he / she is disabled etc

So you'd kill my mum, my cousin, and my children's old babysitter - who would have died of ectopic pregnancy, haemorrhage, and extreme hyperemesis with complications.

Treating an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion.

I think abortion is sad, I'm against it based on stupid reasons (like sex selection, see China) and think the legal cut off point being 24 weeks is pushing it a bit, although I think in the UK medically necessary ones are allowed up to 40 weeks, which is fair. Those babies are very much wanted, and that's just heartbreaking.

Depends which state you are in, as far as I can make out.

Allowing a woman to die, with the result that an unformed foetus in her uterus also dies, is not an abortion either; abortion is an intervention, and not keeping someone alive when they are brain-dead is not an intervention, it's the opposite of intervention.

You genuinely think it is preferable for a foetus to gestate in a dead body? To be subjected to all the medicines that are required to keep a corpse "alive"? Do you know that the body starts to rot after brain death, despite all the "life support"? You'd want that for a child? And you'd want that child to be born without a mother and potentially with devastating disabilities? That's the better option in your view?

Horrific. That poor family.

All kinds of fucked up.

Wait. What? Does the child she has, have a decent quality of life? Or are they riddled with health issues?

@ElizaMulvil Someone did some research and found out the Tories are more left leaning than the Democrats!
But yes, a lot of left wing people don't believe in gender woo woo nonsense. I'm a sodding Commie.
Keeping a woman alive with machines in order for her to give birth to a baby that may or may not survive is horrific no matter which way you slice it.

There are so many factors. Who is going to bring up the child? The woman was 9 weeks pregnant, we don’t know if she even knew she was pregnant at this point. What if the boyfriend didn’t want the child? is it fair that now a family member would be forced to raise the child that they would not have had to do? What happens if the child has servers health conditions, who is going to pay? The grandmother? An older lady who night not even work? How she going to pay for the child is she get’s sick or dies? I’m not saying that all this could happen but all these things could happen. It might be the mother’s wishes to have the baby but it is everyone else who is going to have to look after the child.

Too bad every lawmaker who voted for that anti abortion garbage isn't responsible for paying all current and future medical bills raising from this grotesque travesty.

This is a woman as incubator.

Can you remember the name or what part of the country it was so I can have a look. Utterly horrendous