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School's punishment of all boys in year 6

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htdt · 16/05/2025 17:28

My son is in Year 6 and has done SATS this week, today was meant to be a fun day for them as they've finished all the papers.

But my son came back from school really upset as the teachers had separated the girls and boys and he says the girls got to do fun activities and given treats but the boys got told off and given a lesson on respect.

He's taken this badly and has said things like 'I must be bad because I'm a boy'.

It's such a shame because he's worked really hard and was otherwise enjoying SATS week, but now feels horrible about himself, the teachers who told them off and the girls getting rewarded when all the boys were punished.

I feel like I need to speak to the school next week and find out what's gone on and why. I also feel like making a complaint. But I'm not sure what they are going to do to make things better even if they did agree with me that it was not a great way to deal with some boy's bad behaviour and also very bad timing so should I just forget about it...?

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Riaanna · 17/05/2025 17:35

FrippEnos · 17/05/2025 17:18

You haven't cut anything off you are just ignoring it.
Posters other than you are still pointing that its not all of the boys.

And you are unable to argue against weaponised crying because it goes against your narrative.

Sure sure.

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 17/05/2025 17:51

Whoarethoseguys · 17/05/2025 17:01

I don't believe for a minute that 100 boys have all behaved badly.
The schools have handled this terribly. They are simply reiterating the difference between boys and girls.
You are a boy so you behaved badly so you can't have then post SATs treat.
It's bad for both the girls and the boys to have this message

100 boys? Where are you getting that from? I haven’t read all the threads yet. But are there 100 boys in the class?

I don’t think collective punishment should be used at all. I don’t think it’s fair that if a few of the boys have misbehaved and said sexiest comments then all of the boys should be punished. No I don’t agree with that. And I’m the same case if something happened and all the girls were punished. However, we don’t know what happened so we only really speculate until Op finds out from the school. But I do think if someone misbehaves, doesn’t matter what sex then yes they should be punished and doesn’t matter if they have just completed SATS. No excuses.

Highfivemum · 17/05/2025 17:52

DriveMeCrazy1974 · 17/05/2025 15:57

Bollocks to that. Nobody should have to be punished for what other people have done. Why should the OP's son have to put it down to a life lesson? If, as the OP thinks, he hasn't done anything wrong, he has every right to feel aggrieved.
Would you be happy to put something down as a life lesson if you felt you were being punished for something you had no involvement in?!

It has happened at school for my DC. Teachers are struggling with behaviour of some children and with hindsight no you don’t punish the whole class but sometimes they do. Kids need to be taught to be resilient sometimes

jenrobin · 17/05/2025 18:03

Riaanna · 17/05/2025 11:37

You’ve ignored another dynamic. That this is the result of persistent long term behaviour involving all the boys and not a one off incident. That potentially they’ve all been warned repeatedly that this will be the outcome if behaviour is not notably shifted.

And yet the parents have never once been told their sons are being persistently sexist in school, and that they have been doing so over a long period of time? 😂This is truly top notch fan fiction. Would 100 pc read this dystopian fiction novel.

At least I hope it is fiction, because if the teachers have just been clocking off and going home instead of implementing sanctions the same day, and calling parents, on DAY ONE that sexism happened, then not only have they failed to teach the boys proper behaviour then they've failed the girls too.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/05/2025 18:06

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 17/05/2025 17:51

100 boys? Where are you getting that from? I haven’t read all the threads yet. But are there 100 boys in the class?

I don’t think collective punishment should be used at all. I don’t think it’s fair that if a few of the boys have misbehaved and said sexiest comments then all of the boys should be punished. No I don’t agree with that. And I’m the same case if something happened and all the girls were punished. However, we don’t know what happened so we only really speculate until Op finds out from the school. But I do think if someone misbehaves, doesn’t matter what sex then yes they should be punished and doesn’t matter if they have just completed SATS. No excuses.

It was all the boys in year 6, there's around 100 of them

^^ OP says 100 - it's a year group in a presumably large primary.

They said that yesterday - you can see if you have the OP see all link.

I agree though the OP does need to go back to the school and ask some more questions.

R3s3t · 17/05/2025 18:06

Highfivemum · 17/05/2025 17:52

It has happened at school for my DC. Teachers are struggling with behaviour of some children and with hindsight no you don’t punish the whole class but sometimes they do. Kids need to be taught to be resilient sometimes

No I wouldn’t accept that in the workplace so no way should kids have to suck up unfairness like that.

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 17/05/2025 18:15

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/05/2025 18:06

It was all the boys in year 6, there's around 100 of them

^^ OP says 100 - it's a year group in a presumably large primary.

They said that yesterday - you can see if you have the OP see all link.

I agree though the OP does need to go back to the school and ask some more questions.

That’s a lot! There were about 200 people in my entire year group in high school. Hmm. I originally just thought it was just one class, like a total group of say like 30 kids, so about 14/15 boys that were punished. I did not realise there were 100 boys, so I take it they have multiple classes for year 6 then? We need more context. Like when did the boys say the sexiest comments? If it was in class, then if they are going to be doing collective punishment surely they would have only punished the boys in that one class? We can only speculate until we know more.

jenrobin · 17/05/2025 18:25

Highfivemum · 17/05/2025 17:52

It has happened at school for my DC. Teachers are struggling with behaviour of some children and with hindsight no you don’t punish the whole class but sometimes they do. Kids need to be taught to be resilient sometimes

So, I went to a very poor school as a child, and since it was around the same time that Adam was a lad, there were unfair punishments and en masse behaviour management. Group punishment was practically the law, and even though I was an extremely quiet, well behaved child, the attitude was that I should put up with being regularly punished in order to support the teacher. Which I did; I was extremely resilient because I wanted to go to university. Did behaviour improve as a result of our resilience? Of course not. Was the teacher's problem solved? Of course not. The chaos simply increased from those perpetrators who, like misery, loved to have everyone's company during their punishments. We teachers have better support and training nowadays, thankfully.

Most of the kids I went to school with aren't doing very well. Andrew Tate and the likes? They ARE doing very well for themselves right now. Without good teaching to combat them, and without a truly British sense of justice, and fair play we will be sunk. Absolutely sunk. Nobody's child has to settle for less than that in modern Britain. The training is available to every school and every teacher. It's not resilience to put up with lazy teaching and poor training, it's called giving up and not caring about what the actual problems are, and who the actual perpetrators are.

DrPrunesqualer · 17/05/2025 18:51

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 17/05/2025 17:51

100 boys? Where are you getting that from? I haven’t read all the threads yet. But are there 100 boys in the class?

I don’t think collective punishment should be used at all. I don’t think it’s fair that if a few of the boys have misbehaved and said sexiest comments then all of the boys should be punished. No I don’t agree with that. And I’m the same case if something happened and all the girls were punished. However, we don’t know what happened so we only really speculate until Op finds out from the school. But I do think if someone misbehaves, doesn’t matter what sex then yes they should be punished and doesn’t matter if they have just completed SATS. No excuses.

100 boys in the year.
OP noted this

The entire year of boys were punished

DrPrunesqualer · 17/05/2025 18:55

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 17/05/2025 18:15

That’s a lot! There were about 200 people in my entire year group in high school. Hmm. I originally just thought it was just one class, like a total group of say like 30 kids, so about 14/15 boys that were punished. I did not realise there were 100 boys, so I take it they have multiple classes for year 6 then? We need more context. Like when did the boys say the sexiest comments? If it was in class, then if they are going to be doing collective punishment surely they would have only punished the boys in that one class? We can only speculate until we know more.

If you read OP posts

Some boys playing football told some girls they couldn’t play football.
The entire year of boys ie 100 were punished and denied treats and activities in celebration of the completion of Sats. All the girls got the treats and activities with them finishing off icrecreams and in procession of sweats in front of the boys at the end of the day

hangingonfordearlife1 · 17/05/2025 19:00

R3s3t · 17/05/2025 18:06

No I wouldn’t accept that in the workplace so no way should kids have to suck up unfairness like that.

well you don’t have to ask permission to use the toilet in the workplace either. it’s not comparable

MikeyHasSolutuions · 17/05/2025 19:02

i was beaten in my school (not UK) very much and i think it probably helped me - i move over short time ago and surprised there is not same rules. no disciplines maybe bring back lighter beatings MY SOLUTION

hangingonfordearlife1 · 17/05/2025 19:03

if they have punished 100 boys then there is a point they are trying to make. Probably this is what happens when you treat girls/women unfairly. And yes many of them will be good kids but life is unfair and he will have many unfair experiences. i would tell my kid to suck it up and spoil him myself over the weekend

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/05/2025 19:04

Highfivemum · 17/05/2025 17:52

It has happened at school for my DC. Teachers are struggling with behaviour of some children and with hindsight no you don’t punish the whole class but sometimes they do. Kids need to be taught to be resilient sometimes

''They need to learn resilience' very much seems to be one of those phrases in the same vein as "Hey, lighten up - it's just banter" and "What's wrong with you - can't you take a little joke?".

MissyB1 · 17/05/2025 19:05

MikeyHasSolutuions · 17/05/2025 19:02

i was beaten in my school (not UK) very much and i think it probably helped me - i move over short time ago and surprised there is not same rules. no disciplines maybe bring back lighter beatings MY SOLUTION

No right minded person likes child abuse, or people who promote abuse. By the way being beaten didn't help you, it seems it made you normalise violence towards children.

hangingonfordearlife1 · 17/05/2025 19:10

MikeyHasSolutuions · 17/05/2025 19:02

i was beaten in my school (not UK) very much and i think it probably helped me - i move over short time ago and surprised there is not same rules. no disciplines maybe bring back lighter beatings MY SOLUTION

yeh try beating my kid

DrPrunesqualer · 17/05/2025 19:13

hangingonfordearlife1 · 17/05/2025 19:03

if they have punished 100 boys then there is a point they are trying to make. Probably this is what happens when you treat girls/women unfairly. And yes many of them will be good kids but life is unfair and he will have many unfair experiences. i would tell my kid to suck it up and spoil him myself over the weekend

Edited

So you agree with collective punishment.
What are your thoughts on all Palestinians being punished because of the actions of Hamas.
Hows that looking

jenrobin · 17/05/2025 19:16

hangingonfordearlife1 · 17/05/2025 19:00

well you don’t have to ask permission to use the toilet in the workplace either. it’s not comparable

Children are taken to the toilet at supervised times for their safety, not because they are unimportant and need to put up and shut up when subjected to shit treatment. So, that's not comparable either.

1SillySossij · 17/05/2025 19:20

htdt · 16/05/2025 17:59

Yeah, I'm going to have to find a way to diplomatically complain.

This has totally back fired with my son. He has always had close friendships with girls and is always kind.

From talking to the TA there's really no big issue other than that some of the boys complain if girls join in and aren't kind to them in general

It's such a shame because I generally have loved this school but I feel really angry with them for this. It has soured the end of SATS week and just made my son feel like rubbish.

Maybe you need to hear what happened from 'the horses mouth' before you decide to complain. Ambushingbsome TA in the corridor isn't really the correct channel.

MikeyHasSolutuions · 17/05/2025 19:22

hangingonfordearlife1 · 17/05/2025 19:10

yeh try beating my kid

you are very aggressive i did not beat your kid - i said i was beaten - i dont think i know your kid - your very rude and maybe not very clever - i dont want to beat your kid maybe you beat your kid and try to blame me

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 17/05/2025 19:26

DrPrunesqualer · 17/05/2025 18:55

If you read OP posts

Some boys playing football told some girls they couldn’t play football.
The entire year of boys ie 100 were punished and denied treats and activities in celebration of the completion of Sats. All the girls got the treats and activities with them finishing off icrecreams and in procession of sweats in front of the boys at the end of the day

Edited

Thanks. There must be more to this than just few boys saying some girls can’t play football, this is an overreaction.

R3s3t · 17/05/2025 19:27

1SillySossij · 17/05/2025 19:20

Maybe you need to hear what happened from 'the horses mouth' before you decide to complain. Ambushingbsome TA in the corridor isn't really the correct channel.

Well the school should have contacted her so…..

DrPrunesqualer · 17/05/2025 19:28

R3s3t · 17/05/2025 19:27

Well the school should have contacted her so…..

Why are you inflating the truth @1SillySossij 🤣🤣🤣🤣 OP didn’t ambush anyone

R3s3t · 17/05/2025 19:28

hangingonfordearlife1 · 17/05/2025 19:03

if they have punished 100 boys then there is a point they are trying to make. Probably this is what happens when you treat girls/women unfairly. And yes many of them will be good kids but life is unfair and he will have many unfair experiences. i would tell my kid to suck it up and spoil him myself over the weekend

Edited

But they were doing it to other boys too

DrPrunesqualer · 17/05/2025 19:29

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 17/05/2025 19:26

Thanks. There must be more to this than just few boys saying some girls can’t play football, this is an overreaction.

By the school, definitely