Why is Alice Evans Gruffudd homeless?

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Doesn’t she have any famous friends? Where has all her money gone? Does she have to live in L.A? It just all seems bizarre, just move somewhere cheaper.

Ioan was in the ITV series The Liar with Joanne Froggatt. He played a charming doctor who was eventually exposed as a rapist and was pretty good in that I thought.

She was given a dressing down for taking a picture of him in court! Approached him, violated the restraining order and photographed him. A bailiff (is that what they’re called?) had to get involved.

That behaviour in a court of law. Imagine behind closed doors.

One of the saddest things about this has been seeing the children become increasingly isolated, the eldest was kept off school for over a year. Ioan's wife seems like such a sweet person that would make a lovely stepmum.

When Alice and Ioan's girls went to visit Ioan and Bianca at their apartment, Bianca had tried to plan activities to bond with the girls, like cooking together. The girls arrived, trashed the apartment, chucked oats and milk all over their bed, and ran out (after shoving Bianca), then claimed Bianca had assaulted the eldest. All of which was thankfully witnessed by a chaperone.

Alice egged on her eldest to try get a restraining order against Bianca (ironic when Alice has a restraining order due to her abuse of Ioan), then when push came to shove and the girl was stood in court being talked to by the judge Alice bailed and left her girl there alone. Incredibly traumatising.

The girls could have had a lovely life with their mum and dad and stepparent/s, Ioan especially travels all over for work and used to take the girls with him (one of the stick Alice beats him with is that he travelled too much: which he had to do, to work, because she wouldn't). Alice festers away in her flat, drinking, taking drugs, screaming at her kids they're bitches and to fck off and live with their ex nanny if they're not going to take her side.

She is malignant and destroys everyone around her. She's infuriated that Ioan has managed to get out away from her, that he has found love again, and got married, despite everything she's done to both of them. As a domestic abuse victim he has been incredibly strong and resilient. He is clearly taking guidance from experts in how to manage the alienation, and abuse.

His wife was in an abusive marriage prior to meeting Ioan, so no doubt their shared experiences bonded them too.

I'm not saying that's not true, but at this point it could be said of literally any unsuccessful actress/actor.

Truth is there are hundreds of actors and musicians who didn't make it because most of them don't make it with enduring success.

I used to work in an office with an ex-DJ who'd performed with and opened for huge acts. They'd been a hotel cleaner before that. Their agent had persuaded them to spend big and "sell the dream/fake it til you make it/that rental in Mayfair is totally affordable".

It was their own alcoholism/drug taking that sunk them - they ended up struggling with the mortgage on a modest house in a modest suburb.

They'd probably have done better in their careers hanging on to modest TV series in the UK rather than chasing Hollywood success.

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Once when Ioan went to pick up the girls, she came out to the front path and exposed her naked buttocks to him, to intimidate and shock him. In front of the kids. Imagine the response if a man flashed his ex wife when she had come to get the kids and deliberately had arranged to get them from the pavement outside the home to avoid being vulnerable and in danger.

She is terrifying. She admires Betty Broderick.

In trying to destroy her ex- Husband, it would appear that she is not only destroying her self, but hurting her own children, while he is getting on with his life. What a mess.

Wow that was really stupid 😱. You have to learn when to stop fighting. the lawyers are the ones winning .

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She didn’t want him, she just didn’t want him to move on.

Or she did want him but didnt want him to know she wanted him so she pretended she didnt want him and so he thought she didnt want him......or something...😂
who knows how the mind of a control freak works...

Alice was mentally abusive to him. I saw videos that she recorded a few years back of her being abusive, that I guess she didn’t think were abusive. She also clearly has, or had, a drinking problem. He has or at least had, I haven’t followed the story recently, a restraining order against her. Good for him if he has found someone to support him, it’s clear he’s had a tough time with Alice.

Like others, I've followed this for a while - Ioan wanted to leave the marriage for at least a year before he did but she threatened him that she would sell stories about him abusing the children and her and basically ruin his life. During the marriage she also refused to work and told him he was useless, worthless as he wasn't earning enough/wasn't famous enough. It sounds miserable

The court documents since then listing all of the abuse and parent alienation are truly shocking. Ioan had to eventually refuse to have the girls and asked for therapy with them as they would come and be so violent towards him (or AE would arrive and shout abuse at him). But she kept refusing to bring the girls or would show up herself and demand to be involved.

Those poor girls clearly need some stability in their lives and you can see in the contact that he has with them where she's not involved that they are scared of her but it's absolutely gone on too long now and they are unable to break away.

She used to post incessantly on insta and X about him and it was honestly some of the most unhinged things - or she would go live at 3am and it would be a hot mess where she seemed to be not quite 'with it' but a judge ended up ordering her to stop it.

And the latest list of evidenced (5000!) times she's broken the restraining order (just at a glance) is WILD.

Anyone defending her as the poor broken left behind woman should have a read of the documents.

She would abuse him for speaking Welsh to his parents on the phone apparently.

The original 3 year restraining order is about to expire but Ioan has applied to have it extended permanently based on her having violated the existing one over 5000 times, including stalking him around the neighbourhood in her car and blocking the exit to the classroom when he was at his daughter’s parents evening at school so that he couldn’t leave without encountering her.

Wow, that’s terrifying. I stopped reading about them a while back but it’s extremely sad that things haven’t sorted themselves out. I’ve seen loads of people on her side about how she is just sad because he cheated on her with a younger model, but the truth seems to be far from it. Someone needs to intervene and get her some serious help so that the kids can have more stability whether with her or with their dad. It’s a bad situation for everyone involved.

When the news came out that he was leaving her, i went back through her Instagram posts and the evidence of her abusive behavior towards him was clear. Very controlling and critical of him, going back months/years. If i recall, she was taking photos of him while he was asleep and half naked in bed and posting them with captions about how he didn't want her to do that but she was doing it anyway, ha ha. Why would anyone take a photo of a loved one while they were vulnerable and half naked and post it online without their consent?

She's the abusive one, and she's alienated the children. He's allowed to remarry and move on.

It was obviously not a happy marriage. I had seen instagram posts prior to split where she seemed to take delight in posting inappropriate photos of him where he was visibly uncomfortable.
He was obviously a jobbing actor and had to take work where he could get it. I think the role in the tv series when they split was filmed in Australia. I think she then span it as he abandoned us for work for long periods, his take was she was sahm (with a ft nanny) and I took work where I could get it to keep home/lifestyle running.
There were clearly assets so a home sold and could have purchased elsewhere plus very generous maintenance while she got back on her feet.
It wouldn’t have taken much just some willingness to work, she could easily have gone down an influencer/loose woman panelist/book type route. Or private route with a wfh job eg she speaks French/lived in France.
The children are 2009 and 2014 born so now secondary age. Instead she often refers to them as babies, nanny only went recently. I’m a single mum I can’t possibly work. Or he wants me to scrub toilets - no thoughts to what work she could actually do, most women certainly with older junior school or secondary age children work.
I suspect most of any matrimonial assets spent on lawyers. He is paying maintenance but that presumably will reduce once eldest is 18 in a couple of years.

When my father had an affair with a much younger woman my Mum completely went to pieces. Constantly crying, waking me up in the middle of the night to rant about my father. Forcing me to lie to him about her whereabouts and imply she was on dates. Treating me like an adult confidante. I was only 13!

It nearly broke me and I had no idea how to cope with any of it. I feel so sorry for the children in this nasty scenario, it will have damaged them so much.

If she is as abusive as he claims wouldn't the kids have been put into care? Or do they do things differently in LA?

Can anyone link to the court docs?

I think they were given the right to choose due to their ages? And the general consensus is they chose her due to her manipulation, however I can’t attest to that. However, the court must believe him as things have mostly gone in his favour and he has a restraining order against her.

I'm so sorry you went through this. I just wanted to highlight there's no evidence Ioan had an affair. He has gone on record in court, under threat of perjury, stating that the date he met and started a relationship with Bianca was after he told Alice he wanted a divorce. Not that it having been an affair would remotely excuse Alice's ongoing abuse, but she has gained some sympathy by claiming he had an affair. Taps into a certain audience.

Also, Alice had previously told Ioan she was leaving him and wanted a divorce. Well before he told her it was over.

He had the younger woman before they split up

It's being suggested that $100k is a low income for San Diego and TBH the LA area is more expensive. That amount is going to be hard to live on for a lot of people.

You are being extremely naive if you think she wasn’t on the scene before they spilt up

Parental alienation is really hard, the kids are fed and clothed, which means they're not a priority for CPS to remove. Sadly even though Alice is abusive, removing them from her (and they can no longer safely be around their father) at this point would cause them even more harm. There is no evidence she has assaulted them (she has assaulted Ioan), there are transcripts of audio recordings where she has verbally abused them. Even in the UK I doubt what's happening with the girls would meet the threshold for removal into foster care.