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Why is Alice Evans Gruffudd homeless?

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Englishsummerblues · 14/05/2025 23:19

Doesn’t she have any famous friends? Where has all her money gone? Does she have to live in L.A? It just all seems bizarre, just move somewhere cheaper.

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Butchyrestingface · 16/05/2025 17:42

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

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WatchAnXFilesWithNoLightsOn · 16/05/2025 17:43

@Butchyrestingface beat me to it. Just about time for a morning coffee and a few social media searches

TheNeedyKhakiPanda · 16/05/2025 17:46

The only person who has humiliated anyone is Alice herself.

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 16/05/2025 18:26

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

Hello Alice

Uricon2 · 16/05/2025 18:27

It's shit for the kids

Agree with this bit @JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool , not the rest.

radishgate · 16/05/2025 18:29

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

😂 what a load of shite

Motnight · 16/05/2025 18:38

Neither Alice or Ioan are covered in glory here. The kids meanwhile are the blameless victims.

ps Tattle has the most fantastic, bonkers and strangely addictive threads going around this. With, it has to be said, a huge amount of evidence. If you have a spare week or so take a look but be ready to appalled and hooked in equal quantities.

TaggieO · 16/05/2025 18:40

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

Oh look. Abusive Alice has entered the building.

InterIgnis · 16/05/2025 18:49

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

You have the option of not reading it, Alice. If you don’t want people to comment negatively on your behavior then you also have the option of not making a public spectacle of yourself (although tbf, that would be counterproductive for your grifting).

In regards to your health both mental and physical? Perhaps give sobriety a go.

Uricon2 · 16/05/2025 18:55

Do I think IG is perfect? No. Do I think (based on a great deal of evidence) that AE is demonstrably batshit, consumed by the need for vengeance and seriously harming her children emotionally? Yes.

garlicandsapphires · 16/05/2025 19:01

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

How did he humiliate her? What did he do exactly, other than leave an unhappy marriage?

ThisCyanPoet · 16/05/2025 19:03

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

Sitting up all night and fighting with people on the internet has been something she has done for years. She’s made up lies about complete strangers who have commented on her SM posts and had her followers harass and threaten them. She also created sock accounts to do this herself. Even if she was ill, it doesn’t give her a free pass to abuse, harass and torment other people.

People would absolutely sympathise with her for feeling devastated, but outright lying about him, trying to ruin his career and encouraging the internet to join in is not ok and I’m surprised it’s taken people this long to actually start saying so.

Ioan spent hundreds of thousands to try and keep a relationship with the children and she was interfering in it to punish him way before Bianca was on the scene. He did the right thing and got the court to order therapy for the girls and him (individually and together). Alice did everything in her power to ruin it, refusing to take the girls to their scheduled sessions and bursting into the room for the ones they did actually get to attend shouting and screaming. She threw herself on the floor on front of the kids and therapist and pretended to have a heart attack. When no-one paid her any attention, she called herself an ambulance!!!

She launched her gofraudme initially pleading for money to cover legal fees because “Ioan was abusing her in court and she couldn’t defend herself” She also claimed to have $26 to her name. It was proven that she actually had $80,000 in her accounts whilst she was collecting money off of people who had less in the bank than her. Also, Ioan has and continues to pay all her legal fees so she was fully represented in all hearings.

She’s not unwell and she will not eventually calm down - She is the big bowser of Karens and is having a tantrum that has been going on for over four years because her husband had enough and left HER, not the kids, HER!

She also had an affair by the way, and tried to instigate a second one (whilst she was filing TVD), but funnily enough doesn’t like to mention that when screaming about Ioan having one (which I don’t believe he actually did).

MoominUnderWater · 16/05/2025 19:10

Butchyrestingface · 16/05/2025 17:42

Welcome to Mumsnet. 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻

Only 09:41 in LA at the moment - felt compelled to check for some reason.

Ha ha, thought exactly the same.

Cakeandusername · 16/05/2025 19:12

Humiliated on world stage?! how?
All it needed was one statement form a publicist. Actor separated from his wife and they’ll be co parenting going forwards. Probably wouldn’t have even made press as not high profile.
Instead the dramatic posts and ranting on instagram is what has attracted attention.

bridgetreilly · 16/05/2025 19:12

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

I really think she is doing an excellent job of humiliating herself without any help from him. If it weren’t for the girls, I’d say she could safely be left alone to get on with that. As it is, someone does need to intervene for their sake.

MoominUnderWater · 16/05/2025 19:12

The girls will be old enough soon if not already to internet search their mother. They will read the court papers online, they will read Tattle, they may even read Mumsnet.

They might be too entrenched and brainwashed currently to process it all but I suspect at some point the penny will drop and they will be very angry. I’d wager it will be their mother they won’t forgive.

Munnygirl · 16/05/2025 19:16

TaggieO · 16/05/2025 17:20

He had to move into Bianca’s flat, which she paid for, because he was giving all his money to Alice and the girls and continuing to pay for their house.

I wonder how as an Australian citizen with her immigration status within the US unknown and hardly having a stellar acting career, one would have to wonder how is she affording to support him?

TheNeedyKhakiPanda · 16/05/2025 19:16

Also, I can't believe he has to pay her legal bills, with a DVRO that's pretty disgusting.

Butchyrestingface · 16/05/2025 19:17

Munnygirl · 16/05/2025 19:16

I wonder how as an Australian citizen with her immigration status within the US unknown and hardly having a stellar acting career, one would have to wonder how is she affording to support him?

She and Patsy Palmer are in business together.

TheNeedyKhakiPanda · 16/05/2025 19:17

Munnygirl · 16/05/2025 19:16

I wonder how as an Australian citizen with her immigration status within the US unknown and hardly having a stellar acting career, one would have to wonder how is she affording to support him?

And? So what? Is that any of our business?

Munnygirl · 16/05/2025 19:24

TheNeedyKhakiPanda · 16/05/2025 19:17

And? So what? Is that any of our business?

I’m not the one saying she is supporting him I just wondered how? I think that’s a fair question. Oh I’ve just seen she’s allegedly in business with Patay Palmer. Doing what I wonder 🤔

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Elsvieta · 16/05/2025 19:27

Lentilweaver · 15/05/2025 01:30

That said, I think showbiz is very cruel to women. You are just tossed aside.

To be fair, she's said that Harvey Weinstein torpedoed her career after she refused his advances (throwing in a snide "I hope it works out for your boyfriend" after she mentioned that her then-boyfriend Gruffudd was auditioning for one of his other films). Which seems entirely possible, based on what we know of Weinstein.

But I think basically she's just very angry that he left her for another woman, and all the other stuff is just about trying to punish him.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 16/05/2025 19:35

JustPlayItCoolBoyRealCool · 16/05/2025 17:36

I should imagine the girls no longer like or respect their father and no longer feel safe with him.

He doesn't apprear to be the deepest of characters.
Clueless and very selfish in my opinion.

He's become a spearhead for all those who advocate affairs and believe children can be discarded and pacified to play nicely with new step partners.

It's shit for the kids, it's shit for Alice but it's great for Ioan and Bianca, the only problem is getting Alice to STFU and get the girls to show Ioan in a great light infront of his new squeeze who incidentally has no experience of childrearing, it doesn't really fit with her programme.

This sort of pile on will make her more ill, she can't take it at the moment, Ioan's in a much stronger possition, why do people wish to make her worse, people have no empathy, all this crap is bravado from her, she will calm down eventually, it will be a long time though because he has thoroughly humiliated her on the world stage and that is something neither Alice or her daughters, I should imagine will ever forgive.

He's a fool.

How many more years should she be allowed to abuse her children while everyone waits for her to "calm down eventually"?

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 16/05/2025 19:36

MrsBuntyS · 16/05/2025 14:40

This woman totally fumbled the bag when she left Picasso’s grandson for a Welsh actor. Her life could have been so different. No wonder she is bitter.

How could it have been different it she'd stayed with Picasso's grandson?

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