To think voting for assisted dying legalisation could be a huge mistake???

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In Scotland they are voting to legalise assisted dying. Looking likely to pass. I am worried this will come to England now. Kier is already proving he doesn't care about old and disabled people so this scares me.
Obviously there are 2 sides but how can people be so ignorant? If passed this could be one of the biggest opportunity for corrupt evil behaviour of saving money on the NHS, care, people literally getting away murder, playing god! No not good. It's so scary.

You are coming across as being deliberately obtuse. The report demonstrated that abusers took the lives of their victims and passed it off as mercy killings ie to alleviate their suffering.

Therefore it is likely that abusers will use the bill to kill their partners.

Yes, people have looked at what's happened in other countries hence the fear over the bill. In some countries they want to kill children, they kill dementia patients and people with mental illnesses.

It will be offered as a choice though
That’s part of the proposal.

ie you can have this or that medication for pain etc etc or go for assisted dying.
Thats quite literally what will be happening

Talk about making people feel unwanted. I’d feel like my life was worthless if I was given a limited time to live and a professional suggested killing myself as an option.
If doctors were not allowed to offer it as an option ( like in pregnancies) then I think less people may feel coerced but that’s not the case atm.
Which is one of the reasons why I do not agree with it in its current form and in the current climate.

I am aware of our conversations, I dont need a commentary of what myself and the other poster have said to each other.

So how are they going to convince a medical professional their relative only has 6 months to live and is in immense suffering if that's not the case???

Lock your doors they are coming after your children! These killing machines with no mercy.

I wasn't aware that Drs were psychic and could predict an end with accuracy. Look at what happened to Esther Ranzen, she was given medication which prolonged her life. There are plenty of stories of people given a few months to live who lived long after.

It should be consensual which is the point. We also don't know if the criteria will be expanded. As you can see on this thread, some want it to apply to dementia patients, people with mental illnesses or even anyone who wants it.

Again with the facetiousness. You're very amusing.

You were trying to say people could abuse the system and use it to kill off their relatives because they wanted them dead. So how would they be able to do that if their relative didnt fit the requirements?? A medical professional will know the health of the person better than an abusive relative who doesnt care about them.

But that's how you sound! Are you one of these people that whenever new advancement comes along you will just try and find any negativity and scare stories about it.

A Dr can't predict a death with real accuracy - therefore someone coerced into taking their life could have a lot longer to live. In the case of Ranzen, new medication helped prolong her life. People can be misdiagnosed or live a lot longer than predicted.

Therefore the person could qualify and be coerced into taking their life prematurely.

There's also the question of the slippery slope.

I'm not mocking people being coerced into suicide. We're talking about the state taking your life, there are very real safeguarding concerns.

The state is not taking your life!

Who is?

@DrPrunesqualer ok that is a concern if that is the case.

How does this bill compare to those looking likeky in Jersey & Scotland I wonder? And especially in this regard.

I don’t agree with it being offered by anyone. I agree with it being a rightful choice by the individual.

Compkex obvs.

You

Oh and not forgetting those abusive relatives who will brutally murder you in your own home and somehow pass it off as assisted dying.

I'm taking people's lives? How so?

You're not making any sense again.

🤦‍♀️ I meant you as in the individual with the choice. You will not be killed by the state, you will be killed by you, your choice.

That's called suicide. If the state sanctions assisted suicide, the state is taking your life.

Here we go again. It's your choice! It is not forced upon you. It's not murder.

I didn’t realise that’s how the assisted dying bill would work. Surely there is no need to pose it as an option to a dying patient if they already know is is an option.
But I disagree that the instances are completely unrelated

You're consenting to the state taking your life.

Justifying comments is allowed and part of a conversation.