To think Starmer is utterly reprehensible

[Thegreyhound]

I know everyone will disagree, that’s ok- But I just have to say that Starmer today seems to have sunk lower than I ever believed he would with his incendiary ‘island of strangers’ and ‘incalculable damage’ rhetoric.
I find it particularly shocking because he has calculated this and decided it’s worth it to throw immigrants under the bus and essentially give all the ground in the debate to Farage, Tommy Robinson and Enoch Powell types.
Policy can be altered without making statements that are designed to impact race relations and make life even more difficult for people who are just trying to get along and make a living here.
Starmer is vile. This country does indeed feel like an island of strangers these days but the strangers are not the immigrants :(

He paid into it for years when we were part of the EU. I get free healthcare in his country as it is reciprocal. What are you even talking about? He would of course have a job but we wouldn't earn the prohibitively expensive amounts they want us to. Imagine if your partner and the father of your children was removed from your family because you personally were looking after your new baby so weren't earning 30k that year? Would you think that's fair. Idiot.

Exactly what I thought.

He clearly can't control the borders so is going for people that we actually need, like care workers. I'm astounded.

Brum is now an absolute shithole. As for the PP asking what the problem was with white people being in the minority there, words fail me. Walk a mile in the shoes of people who are intimidated and outnumbered in their home born city. Experience the manipulative and threatening behaviour because you dare to question cultural misogyny.

Ahh you’re right, my bad. It’s only alleged adultery where women are stoned to death, not covering up is usually just a few lashings. Silly me.

Because women from these cultures have no power and no standing in their communities when there are no men.

So just to clarify - are you a misogynist? Because you’re denying that there are dangers men and saying women are the problem. Sounds like a misogynist to me.

I live in a suburb where more than half the population has a low the socio economic background.

There is a very affluent village five miles away. Lots of green space, very good facilities, excellent schools, many amenities.

Can you guess where the immigrants have been housed?

I thought voting for Labour under Starmer would be a mistake. He was never going to deliver the change of direction this country needs & his failure would end the chance of us having one in my lifetime.

We just had people go out and vote Reform, so voting to make their services, working conditions and future worse. A crackpot company backed by billionaires have convinced people that our problems aren't because all the wealth and power is in the hands of those billionaires but that it's immigrants.

Because British immigrants are famed for always integrating and learning the lingo .
Not.

I guess the poor side. We had that too. Then they ran out of space that side. So now the wealthy villages have the hotels too. Equality 😭

Is it worth the risk letting anyone in from a country where raping children is accepted?

If you genuinely care about child brides, and aren’t just being a wide eyed “Oooh I never knew, I’m sure not everyone agreed with it”, find out about what Girls Not Brides do to help, and how you can help (if you’re not too busy saying women are the problem)

Why are you adding random words?

The “hysterical” comment was aimed at the men worried about their wives being shot or stabbed walking around London with newborns. That’s is hysterical.

A completely separate post and point.

My post you quoted was about somebody taking issue with ethnic minority “majority” areas in parts of Brum. To which I say: “so what?” And also note being of an ethnic minority and being an immigrant are completely different things.

I don’t believe for a minute you’ve never in your life heard of child beides. I’m not entertaining obtuseness

But like I say look at Girls not Brides - or maybe contact them to say they’re wrong because you’ve never heard of this? Go on, I dare you.

So now you’ve not only never heard of child brides but yore also not aware that stoning is a legal practice in certain countries?

But it is not only Islamic or Poor countries which don’t have a minimum age for marriage

Maybe take a look at the Girls not Brides interactive Atlas for countries with no or a low marriage age and tell me what you think the common denominator is. Have a guess

I am saying if the culture and cultural attitudes are the issue then why do you think that
women will be immune to cultural beliefs that influence men?

Read the post again.

There is no one common denominator that unites them all.

Can someone explain to me why this is done in the UK?

I can’t think of another country that translates into non-official languages

France I am pretty sure doesn’t, does Germany provide free translators for the healthcare system? Japan?

Anyone got any examples?

I’m not entertaining your stupidity any more

I grew up near the Saddam Hussein mosque, if you know where that is (I imagine it might have had a name change!). Anyway, I think a problem with people who are very pro immigration is behaving as though immigrants are some kind of monolithic group. Which ironically seems quite racist.

Well some do, some groups notably don't. But the countries they go to don't like it much, do they? They are really there just to spend money, not integrate, have jobs, etc.

I’m not sure you realise @JHound that people like you are why people are inching towards the likes of Reform. People are sick of those so eager to be woke and not offend, all the while turning a blind eye to actual problems in favour of appearing tolerant.

Yes there is. Not British

I would like to assess would be migrants the exact same way I was assessed each time I have moved overseas.

As an individual.

(Although I am not really going to go an lobby for any man for any reason so am not going to protest if any group of men is banned from
entering the UK.
it’s just weird the generalisations that abound here. I assume people here prefer to live in bubbles so it is easier for them to stereotype people.)

I really need to ask again. Why is Starmer reprehensible? Is it because he is pro or anti immigration?
no faux naïveté here, I really want to know why the OP thinks he is reprehensible?