What can labour do about immigration?

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Current poles showing Reform is way ahead of labour now. I’m so worried Reform will win the next general election if Labour don’t get a grip on this issue. And I say that as a Tory voter.

Realistically, what can Labour do, what should they be doing and do we think they will do it?

Oh, if only. They'd get my vote

What exactly is Farage going to do for the British working classes? Lower taxes on fags and booze substantially, send all the “forin” NHS workers back and then sell it off? Then cancel all welfare support and stir up some anti Muslim sentiment, potentially. How exactly will these working classes benefit? So what are they voting for? One middle finger to the establishment and then what? Farage will probably make the rich even richer. Why do they have him down as some sort of Robin Hood?

Yup. Classism is still alive and kicking and it's the working classes who are consistently shat on. This incarnation of Labour are absolute traitors.

Have you ever spoken to one, or could you not see past the stench of fags and booze? ( nice bit of stereotyping there btw). The question should be, What is Labour doing to improve their lives, seeing as they are the ones in government right now and as such, have the power to make actual positive changes?

Although I don't understand the claim in your link that Cornwall was awarded only £18 million of EU funding in 2017 (rather than the £60 million they were expecting) as we had clearly not left the EU at that point. Also the link indicates that the estimated future funding of £100 million a year if we had stayed in the EU (a claim in your previous Cornwall links) has been somewhat exaggerated.

From what I gathered it was between 2000 to 2020 so over 20 years the number doesn’t seem to be exaggerated at all. Here are some links to websites/articles that I came across almost a decade ago:

• Cornwall and Isles of Scilly Local Enterprise Partnership website which mentioned the EU Growth Programme etc.
• Cornwall fears loss of funding after backing Brexit Guardian article
• What Europe does for me website.

And I came across this a few years ago.

So Labour need to go more left wing or right wing ? Cos the voters of Runcorn voted for a Thatcherite party.

It seems to me they are trying to do plenty but nothing is getting through. Partly due to abysmally bad coms from Labour but equally the fecking constant din on SM and in the written press distorting facts and misinforming the electorate who cannot be arsed to actually do any research themselves.

Left and right are pretty meaningless terms nowadays, who knows what they stand for anymore. Reform are capturing both Labour AND Tory voters and therin lies the rub. It may seem contradictory but there you go.

So you‘re 56 but were born before the ECHR was created ? 😂 And you’re moaning about having human rights ?

The coms is atrocious. I don't think they started off on the right foot AT ALL, after 14 years of Tory shite the electorate needed some positivity, some encouragement. Instead, we got ' things are going to get a whole lot worse, before we can even begin to think about anything good'. Timing was so off and tone deaf. It's no wonder people have really reached their limit now and have defected to the unknown.

Hence why the post Brexit Tory party is screwed. They lied to attract working class red wallers with promises of levelling up and reduced immigration whilst offending wealthy southern tories who wanted curtailed benefits, lower taxes, small state.

The irony being they have achieved quite a lot. But the whole 14 years of lies/corruption from the Tories and the WFA debacle has just turned a lot of people off conventional political parties for good.

Feel free to list here what they’ve done. Can’t say I’ve noticed any improvement personally, quite the opposite.

I agree about the poor communication and poor decision making, it’s almost like they hate the country and the electorate, not one ounce of pride or hope for the future, Starmer comes across as hesitant and out of his depth and keeps contradicting himself.

The WFA was a travesty and we have the 'reform' of welfare benefits to look forward to. It's not hard to see why the working classes feel betrayed - shafted by the Tories, yep to be expected, but Labour?

Employment rights bill and make work pay legislation
Anti tax avoidance legislation
Three million workers got a pay rise through increases to the National Minimum Wage and National Living Wage.
First 300 new school-based nurseries announced.
24,000 people returned with no right to be here since the General Election (including 3,500 criminals)
Confirmation of 500,000 vital NHS appointments and operations saved by ending strikes straight after the General Election
More than 100,000 extra patients have been treated on time, 80,000 more people have had cancer diagnosed or ruled out within 28 days, and NHS waiting lists have fallen for six months in a row.

There is some positive stuff. But no doubt the usual posters will be along to poo poo it.

There should be no "illegal immigration". There should only be legal immigration, highly skilled people who already have jobs set up before they come here. There is no reason to have low-skilled or unskilled people come here.

They're screwed because they allowed in millions of low skilled immigrants (the Boris Wave) while simultaneously destroying the economy (Truss) and worsening a cost of living crisis for working class people who suffer most during economic upheaval. The middle classes also feeling the pinch was the death knell after 14 years of misrule.

Employment rights bill and make work pay legislation
Anti tax avoidance legislation

Has the legislation been passed yet?

24,000 people returned with no right to be here since the General Election

They've all been replaced;

More than 30,000 migrants have crossed the English Channel in small boats since Sir Keir Starmer became Prime Minister

https://www.cityam.com/more-than-30000-migrants-crossed-channel-since-starmer-took-office/

NHS waiting lists have fallen for six months in a row

A graph shared by Labour is not fully labelled and seems to stitch together two different datasets.

While the number of treatments waiting to be carried out fell in each of the six months from September 2024 to February 2025 inclusive, the number of patients waiting for treatment did not...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/labour-labour-party-nhs-conservatives-b2731639.html

What they need to do is process the applications in a quicker and more effective way.

I keep hearing the well you don't want 800+ bored illegal immigrants living in a hotel next to you causing trouble line. Well the way they can deal with that is to not spend months/years to deal with their cases whilst not allowing them to work. The quicker they are processed, the quicker we can deport those who shouldn't be here and integrate those who should be and make them useful members of society.

Well to be fair you have twice linked now to claims that the expected funding was £350 million (over 7 years);

Cornwall had been on course to receive another £350m for the next round of funding from the years after 2020.

If they are illegal, why not just deport them all?

To where?

Their home country. Or if have no documentation then prison until they say where they are from and get replacement passports

Because they are entitled to apply for asylum in the uk and remain here until their case is determined.