Should a Brain Surgeon be up at night with a baby doing night feeds ?

[Mondaytuesdayhappydays]

Should a surgeon working full time, operating on patients each day be up with a baby at night doing 2/3 hourly feeds.

If they were operating in your child and had had only 3/4 hours sleep each night over the last fortnight would this be acceptable to you?

Why don’t you tell us your thoughts on the brain surgeon, the night feeds and the child’s operation first, OP?

No

Or someone driving your bus, or your plane or making a decision whether the armed response unit should fire, or opening a gate with a crowd surge. There are plenty of jobs where you need tobe well rested to make critical decisions.
My view, no. But its not explicitly brain surgeons.

Not acceptable but the partner would be justified in being disgruntled.

How much sleep do they normally get though the average surgeon sleeps less than the 7-8 hours with 4-5 hours whilst on call be long aberage

but no I wouldn’t expect it to be every night

If the baby is having 2/3 hour nightly feeds, I would hope the brain surgeon is on maternity leave.

At the end of the day surgeons have lives like the rest of us and I Would expect them to know the minimum amount of sleep they require to function normally. Surgeons results are all monitored so any increase in problems would be noted and investigated. Doctors know what they signed up to and want help not harm people so I expect they do their very best at all times. With the hours they commonly work I doubt night feeding a new born is that different to the crazy shifts they work.

No they shouldn't be doing that. If anyone needs to be well rested, it's anyone medical

Absolute no chance
I know a couple where it was the mother who was a surgeon (not brains but still…). She was very strict on rest. Could kill a patient at worse, lose her job at best if any mistakes are made.

Are you a new parent and brain surgeon, @Mondaytuesdayhappydays ?

No, they should be getting enough sleep to enable them to do their job safely and properly.

There are plenty of jobs where you need tobe well rested to make critical decisions.

This.

But also a neurosurgeon doesn't spend all their time in theatre. There are quite a lot of chunks of time doing other things that aren't operating.

Also... is it safe for a woman with sole charge of a tiny baby, to be up doing night feeds all night?

Like everything else it depends my ex used to do first feed and change before he went to work to give me a bit longer in bed my friends husband would do the first wake up for the same reason they both got enough sleep and it helped out a lot

I'm actually looking for a brain surgeon, as I want to turn off my nonsense detector. If you could recommend one that would be great. I don't mind if they're a bit tired, but rather they didn't nod off when I talk to them.

Come on. A neurosurgeon is going to have more than enough money to pay support staff like people to do night feeds if the mom is exhausted.

I presume a brain surgeon doesn't operate alone?

My partner has a risky job and no way would I let him. It is far too risky impossible for him to do his job without decent sleep.

Are you a brain surgeon wondering whether to extend your maternity leave OP?

I love the way you used upper case for Brain Surgeon as it gives Mitchell and Webb superiority vibes! What about a Rocket Scientist: should they get 8.5 hours?

I think they would surely have a Nanny or 3! It's the poor old Nurses, support staff like cleaners who have to work hard to keep awake during hard physical work. They won't be able to afford much help if any

Here's a study that says actually patient safety is not compromised https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-effects-of-sleep-deprivation-on-surgeons-and-their-patients-201509028221

I was surprised

No it would definitely not be acceptable to me if my child's surgeon or my surgeon or actually anyone's surgeon to be doing operations if they've only been having 3 - 4 hrs sleep per night for weeks on end!

Unless they are one of those rare creatures that can function 100% correctly on so little sleep!

I’m interested in why you are asking.

I think a brain surgeon should have had the sense to consider this part of being a parent before having a child and made sure they could get enough rest without forcing the other parent to take on 100% of the job.

They need to be rested but that doesn't mean their partner does all the nights every night.
Splitting the nights is an option. Taking shifts so one person sleeps while the other is baby duty.
Surgeons are expected to be tired if it's due to work- doing insane shifts when training etc. But that's seen as fine!