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To think visiting DP’s family doesn’t count as a holiday?

510 replies

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 12:54

Been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 2 year old daughter. He is from a country in Central Europe. Every August we go for a week, and every other Christmas (we alternate between my family and his). This Christmas we are due to go there.

Before the baby we would have 2 holidays a year (not including the semi-annual Christmas visit) one to visit his family, and one to a nice resort type place. Since the baby, we can’t afford to do this. The Summer trip and Christmas trip are in the budget, but another holiday on top of that isn’t doable, and we couldn’t get the time off anyway.

I have nothing against his family but the trips to the village my partner grew up in aren’t particularly relaxing for me. We fly into the airport in the capital city, then have a 5 hour train and bus journey to get to his village, and I get motion sickness from buses. We also often have a late flight and end up waiting at the dodgy city train station until early morning when the trains start running and last time I got harassed by beggars on the platform when I was heard speaking English, DP gave them short shrift thankfully but it was still scary. DD is also starting to develop bus motion sickness so I’m dreading that part of the journey.

His family don’t speak any English, which is fine, I shouldn’t expect them too. But their language is notoriously hard to learn (please no comments about me needing to learn it, it’s literally known as one of the hardest languages in the world and I have a toddler and work full-time) and despite my efforts I have really struggle to have conversations with them beyond basic politeness. The past 2 times we’ve been they have pestered DP that I need to hurry up and learn the language. His father is a smoker and alcoholic and the house stinks of smoke, so since the baby we stay with his aunt instead, and DP’s father always argues with DP about it as he gets offended that we won’t bring the baby in his house. Also, the first time we took DD at 4 months she developed a temperature and had to be taken on the bus to the hospital and everyone was talking around me in their own language (doctors, DP and family) and I was distraught not knowing what was going on, having to wait for DP to translate. I’m scared of this happening again. DD is also a picky eater and the village shop is tiny and won’t have any of her ‘safe’ foods.

On the other hand, there are some positives.They are very hospitable and they cook for us etc, we have BBQs and days out in the nearest city (though this does require long bus trips). But in the village there is not much phone signal and once they start drinking and having a laugh I am completely excluded and don’t understand a word that is being said.

I understand that DP needs to maintain a relationship with his family and that I signed up for this when committing to him, but I must admit I’m dying for a proper holiday this Summer where I can relax, beachfront walks, play with DD in the pool etc. Just the 3 of us. I raised the idea to DP of doing this instead as we’re going to his country for Christmas anyway, and he was horrified. He also pointed out that his country gets hot in the Summer (it does, can reach 30 degrees), and therefore it still counts as a sunny holiday. He also points out that going to his country we only pay for flights and spends (probably around £1000 for the 3 of us). I found some lovely all-inclusive for £1800, and we could afford that extra £800 but we couldn’t afford that AND the Summer trip to his country AND the Christmas trip.

I’m tempted to tell him that me and DD will swerve the trip to his country this year, and may invite my sister to come somewhere with me and DD instead. But I’m worried this will upset him and his family who absolutely adore my DD.

AIBU?

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseBrick · 10/05/2025 17:59

Yanbu.

I am in a similar position. As the kids have got older we have actually gone less, as they are vocal about how much they dislike it. There is nothing for them to do there. Which was fine when they were babies but not when they are more active. We do pay for family to come over to ours and I'm happy to host for a couple of weeks at a time. We also arrange holidays in their country at a resort or somewhere else that suits everyone. But when you've got kids and work full time, the few weeks off a year are so important.

Yes he misses his family. But (it sounds like in both our cases) he made the decision to stay here long term, settle down, have kids...nobody made him. If my husband wants to go back for a week that's fine. But he also needs to acknowledge how utterly shit it is for the rest of the family, stuck in a village with nothing to do, with no one to talk to, not understanding what's going on even if you speak the language to a reasonable level, everyone talking at once about people you don't know is really really hard to follow.

I'd tell him he can go with your child if he wants to take them but I wouldn't go more than what I was comfortable with

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 10/05/2025 18:02

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 13:07

How awful for your partner. He wants to go home and see his family once a year and have them spend time with his kid and partner and you won’t make this sacrifice. He makes a sacrifice every day living abroad and not seeing his family. Thats the deal. As someone who lives abroad I would be horrified too if my partner wouldnt visit my family and friends for one week of the other 51 that we live here. Living abroad is hard and it’s awful not having your family so involved with your kids. Sorry OP on this one personally and speaking from experience you are being very selfish. Taking your kid away from their grandparents and family rhe one week a year they can be there with them (and learn about their language and culture) is beyond selfish. Support your partner and the fact they live in your country and for you and suck it up.

And why can’t his family come and visit them?

Xmasbaby11 · 10/05/2025 18:04

I think you're being very reasonable. It sounds like a difficult trip and not a holiday for you. As you say, it will only get harder and more expensive as DD gets older and you have another child. It isn't his family's fault they aren't able to travel but this must have been a consideration when your DP moved to the UK permanently.

I think your DH needs to compromise to once a year and combine it with Budapest. If you feel comfortable with it, I would let him take DC alone, maybe when older.

I know a family in a similar position, dc are 10 and 15 and have never been - the father goes back every 2-3 years. They prioritise family holidays. A bit extreme but as in your situation, they couldn't afford family holidays otherwise and it would be a difficult trip for the wife and kids.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 10/05/2025 18:05

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 13:15

You make some valid points but we are going in December, we go for a week every other Christmas. I’m not saying I want to permanently stop going. But maybe the years we go for Christmas we don’t go in the Summer. Otherwise we’ll never go anywhere else ever again, especially as we want to have another child and holidays will get a lot more expensive.

i work full-time just like DP does in a high stress NHS job. And the money for the trips to his country comes from both of our disposable incomes. Is it fair that I never get a say?

Edited

YANBU at all.

Stand firm. You and child only go for Christmas this year. For summer you’re having a relaxing resort break (it’s not just about the weather, he’s being very cheeky there)

Either he wants to come or not and you invite your sister.

mamaison · 10/05/2025 18:11

I think YANBU and I’m the immigrant in our marriage.

Even though my home is a popular tourist destination, without any language barrier for us, it’s still not reasonable for us blow our family holiday budget on a trip there every year.

He needs to compromise. He can go visit them in their home alone. You could go some years at Xmas and then the other year to somewhere nice nearby and they do some travel to join you. It could be somewhere they could do the bus journeys to.

In my case, there are nice destinations on the way to my family. We have stopovers there and stay in hotels and do things the kids would like to do.

Staying with my family isn’t really a family ‘holiday’ as far as I’m concerned and it shouldn’t mean my DH and DC don’t get a real one.

Riaanna · 10/05/2025 18:16

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 14:41

I know so many people can’t afford to go abroad at all and I should be grateful to travel even if it’s the same destination every time, but I work damn hard for my spare money.

I went to uni and slogged it through unpaid placements in an NHS hospital, and worked my arse off to become a Band 6 in my role and get the pay increase. I get abused, spat on and called every name under the sun by patients and supervise students. I could work a minimum wage job with a lot less stress but then only afford 1 UK trip a year. But instead I work a stressful job with better pay for the quality of life I want us to have as a family. And for me, a nice quality of life includes a nice relaxing abroad holiday once a year and ticking places off the bucket list. I’d love to go to the Greek islands. But all of the holiday budget instantly gets swallowed up by the Hungary trips before it even hits my savings account. We live in an expensive part of the country so despite my hard work (and DH’s), we can’t stretch to 3 trips, so if we continue to do Hungary twice a year we’ll literally never do anything else. And if we have another child and he still insists on Hungary twice a year, god knows what else may end up sacrificed to fund it. Days out, the gym?

Edited

I would not be grateful that I was working to pay for this.

carrotycrumble · 10/05/2025 18:25

You are absolutely not being unreasonable OP. I would send my child off with my DH and enjoy a week’s peace at home by myself. Once a year visit en famille is more than enough. IMO!

TY78910 · 10/05/2025 18:26

WearyAuldWumman · 10/05/2025 17:12

The problem is - if I understand it - that the OP's DH is refusing to compromise.

I thought they were staying at the aunts since DC was born.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:37

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 16:42

So what? He chose to leave. He chose to marry and have a child in this country, knowing that his family couldn’t/wouldn’t visit and there was fuck all to do where they live, and now he won’t even compromise on spending some time elsewhere in his home country on their sole week’s holiday a year.

He’s a selfish knob.

Complete disagree. I see it the other way, but you are obviously entitled to your view.

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:39

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 10/05/2025 18:02

And why can’t his family come and visit them?

Fair point but who knows? Illness, elderly, money ….who know. The OP and partner can visit and maybe he wants to go ‘home’ and take his child to his childhood places and see more than just immediate family, but also extended family and friends .

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:40

Hwi · 10/05/2025 17:13

A Central European living in the UK is a sacrifice? Eh? You must be kidding.

You don’t get it. It is a sacrifice to give up everything you know - friends, family, culture, etc.

Unless you are an immigrant you don’t get it.

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 18:47

It’s frustrating because it feels like all of my spare income and annual leave is already set aside for the Hungary trips by default. I don’t get the excitement of researching holidays, thinking about places to go etc. We have a savings pot specifically for the Hungary trips.

The reason why it’s £1000 for the 3 of us to go without needing to pay for accommodation is because it’s become extortionate to fly to Budapest since it became popular for tourists, and we go at peak times because often DP’s cousin (who also lives in Western Europe) will go over with her kids for a big family reunion and so it needs to be in the Summer holidays. And then there’s obviously Christmas. And then he always insists on giving them some money for bills etc.

DP is a brilliant father but I don’t think I could be away from DD so long at this age, I would be on edge. I appreciate that’s my own problem. He says he’d feel sad going on his own as they would all miss DD.

OP posts:
Thegodfatherreturns · 10/05/2025 18:47

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:40

You don’t get it. It is a sacrifice to give up everything you know - friends, family, culture, etc.

Unless you are an immigrant you don’t get it.

If he sees it as such hardship why has he stayed in the UK for 10 years and had a child with someone in the UK?

RhiannonTheFlorist · 10/05/2025 18:50

TY78910 · 10/05/2025 18:26

I thought they were staying at the aunts since DC was born.

Yes, with FIL’s smoking and alcoholism we don’t like the baby being in his house so we stay with DP’s aunt and FIL visits (lives across the road).

that’s a drama in and of itself because FIL feels insulted and has apparently convinced himself it’s all me, even though DP and me are on the same page about it

OP posts:
Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:51

jgophacc · 10/05/2025 15:04

OP is getting a lot of the brunt here, but he’s the one who emigrated. I’m usually team MIL on these threads as a mum of boys, but it sounds horrific, he chose to move away, he’s created this, not the OP.

And the OP didn’t choose to marry someone from another country knowing all this? She choose this too.

I’ll concede if she only visits her parents one a year at Christmas.

MyLittleNest · 10/05/2025 18:54

A few things:

I never took a single holiday with my parents as a child. Every "holiday" was to visit their family. As an adult, I feel that was a true loss for me and for them. Beach holidays and bonding time as a nuclear family are so important for making memories. You should absolutely carve out that time because before you know it, your DC will be all grown.

If it's one or the other, can his parents visit you every other year, thus freeing you up to take more of a destination or beach holiday every other year?

The years that you go for Christmas, I think it would be very reasonable to then go on a holiday as you prefer for the summer.

ChompinCrocodiles · 10/05/2025 18:54

Would you be okay with only seeing your family 1 week every 2 years?

I wouldn't. So I've never moved abroad.

If someone does move abroad then they weren't all that bothered to begin with.

Ddakji · 10/05/2025 18:55

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:37

Complete disagree. I see it the other way, but you are obviously entitled to your view.

So because he chose to leave his home country, he’s entitled to tell the OP that she doesn’t ever get to spend their one week family holiday anywhere except his home village? Not even somewhere else in the same country? He won’t compromise at all, like spilt the time between Budapest and the village.

Doctorkrank · 10/05/2025 18:58

If his parents can travel, you can also plan a summer holiday somewhere together in a different country that you would like to go to, then he gets to see his family and you get a summer holiday (also with free babysitting!)

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 10/05/2025 18:59

My summer holiday consists of visiting my parents abroad, but they are my parents, not sure how comfortable I'd be if it were in laws. I don't speak the language either. Have really tried to learn but I just get tongue tied the minute I actually try to speak to someone. The only thing I'm confident about saying is "sorry" 🤦🏻‍♀️ I don't think it's unreasonable at all for you to want a family holiday for just the 3 of you. Is it a possibility you could do a week with his family and a week somewhere else? The journeys sound exhausting OP, I'd be fed up of that pretty quickly too!

Deckings · 10/05/2025 19:02

No way would I be doing that trip every August.
Too much.
Its reasonable for him to go visit but you shouldn't have to join him every year.
Every second Christmas is too much too.

Hwi · 10/05/2025 19:07

Calmdownpeople · 10/05/2025 18:40

You don’t get it. It is a sacrifice to give up everything you know - friends, family, culture, etc.

Unless you are an immigrant you don’t get it.

Aye, right, in Poland before their EU accession they had a huge countdown clock in Warsaw main square, counting even seconds to the time they join the EU and start their free movement towards Western European countries. So please, spare me this nonsense.

Redburnett · 10/05/2025 19:07

Just stay at home. Hide the passport if necessary. You are risking DC's health if you don't. Woman up and do what you need to do.

PurpleThistle7 · 10/05/2025 19:13

ChompinCrocodiles · 10/05/2025 18:54

Would you be okay with only seeing your family 1 week every 2 years?

I wouldn't. So I've never moved abroad.

If someone does move abroad then they weren't all that bothered to begin with.

This isn’t fair. There are millions of people who both moved abroad ‘and’ miss their families. Including me.

telestrations · 10/05/2025 19:17

My DH is from a similar country and so I get everything you are saying even if not exactly the same. The cultural differences, obligations and expectations are immense but often well hidden.

On the one hand I'm amazed you're getting away with just this and suspect he is pushing back massively. But on the other there must be an understanding between you and DH that you need a proper holiday and this is not one, otherwise the moment there is more time or money to spent on them it will also be spent there.

There are also options...

  • You can add time on and/or split with Budapest
  • You can fly to other airports such as Trieste, Liblijana or Vienna which are nice places to visit and can be cheaper to fly to and have cheaper car hire which also bypasses the train and bus
  • He could fly in earlier then you with or without DC to get the obligations done and then you join for the family holiday
  • He can go with or without DC and you go somewhere else or don't join which saves money towards your own trip
  • You both try to earn a bit of extra income solely for the purpose of your own additional family holiday