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Friend becoming overbearing

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DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 08:45

And not just with me, which is the main issue…

I have a friend, Daisy, who I’ve known for a few years through a hobby. She’s a very nice, kind woman, but she does tend to go overboard on texts, that are largely about nothing. She’s an early riser too, so when my alarm goes off and I barely know where or even who I am, the first thing I see is “Good morning Don’t. Today looks like it will be a lovely day. The sun is already shining. I may take a walk in the park” or similar. Sometimes I don’t remember to reply when I’ve woken up properly, but I must admit that sometimes I just don’t bother, as there’s no question to answer or anything that really requires a reaction. I was hoping this might discourage her from the daily bulletin.

Anyway, she picked up on it and I got this long text saying “I have noticed that sometimes I text you and you do not reply. Please let me know if I have offended you somehow and should not be texting you anymore”. I bit the bullet and said that sometimes I just forget because I see the messages when I’m barely awake, and that sometimes I don’t think something needs a reply if there isn’t a question or something specific to say. She was a bit bewildered about the first part - she was saying “But surely you turn your phone off at night, so you don’t see any messages until you switch it on and can check them?” - but she seemed to have got that I’m not trying to upset her; I just don’t need a text for everything.

However, this communication overdose has now spread to my other friends; people she only knows through me. I ran into a friend, Carol, who I hadn’t seen in ages while on my way to meet Daisy and invited her to join us for a drink. They got on well and swapped numbers, because they share a common interest. Barely a fortnight later Daisy messaged me saying “Have you heard from Carol? Is she okay? I’ve messaged her three times this week and she hasn’t responded”. I was taken aback, and I did say maybe it was a bit much. (I’ve known Carol for years and I probably only hear from her every few weeks or so.) I asked Carol the next time I spoke to her and she awkwardly said that she’d found it a bit odd; she’d really only expected to share a couple of links and so on.

This wasn’t the only time. Another friend runs a bar; I took Daisy in for a drink and we chatted to him while it was quiet. The next time I saw him he said, “Bloody hell, that Daisy’s a bit much, isn’t she? She’s messaged three times asking when she can bring me some cakes! I don’t even know her!” I had no idea she’d even asked for his number.

Anyway, it’s my birthday coming up. I usually go away for it with another friend, as hers is a few days earlier, but we’re not doing that this year. The question is, do I invite Daisy on my birthday night out? I just have visions of her wanting to swap numbers with all my other friends and then chasing them wanting to know why they haven’t replied today, when can she bake them a cake etc.. I really don’t fancy having my friends all complaining to me that they’re being bombarded by someone they barely know.

Do I just not ask her? She doesn’t do social media (part of the reason she always wants to swap numbers - she can’t just add people on Facebook or whatever) so it’s not like she’d see pictures and find out. Or am I being mean?

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RachelGreep87 · 10/05/2025 13:19

A lot of people on this thread do not understand what gossip or bullying is.
Good luck OP, you have the patience of a saint.

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 13:19

You have zero respect for her, and haven’t mentioned a single quality or anything you like about her.

I'm not writing her appraisal.

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housethatbuiltme · 10/05/2025 13:21

Also to everyone saying she 'lonely'... why though?

Daisy is young and able to get out and about and is constantly meeting new people, there is no reason for her to be 'lonely' at all except for her own behaviors pushing others away. The way to fix her loneliness is to change. All people that are 'not lonely' have adapted to the group behaviors.

You cannot blame the rest of the world for your own issues.

BreatheAndFocus · 10/05/2025 13:21

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 10:38

This is the sad thing. Despite what one or two posters on this thread are trying to suggest, I do genuinely like her, and I’d happily include her in more if things were different. But I just feel like if I invite her along to anything, in a week’s time I’ll be getting messages asking why she hasn’t heard from Susan, am I sure nothing’s wrong with Liz because she isn’t answering me etc..

Could you just pre-warn your friends not to give Daisy their numbers? They could say they only use their phones rarely, don’t text, or whatever, or simply ‘forget’ to give their number later.

Your other option is to speak to Daisy and manage her expectations re texts. You could do this directly or indirectly. Daisy just sounds a bit lonely, but if you like her then it seems a bit wrong not to invite just in case she gets people’s numbers and texts them. You/they are in control of that, so it shouldn’t be a problem.

CorneliaCupp · 10/05/2025 13:22

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 13:09

Yes, this is precisely it. I don’t dislike Daisy, or I wouldn’t be friends with her. But the fact is that I and two other people, with no prompting from me or one another, have both told me they find Daisy too much. She doesn’t seem to be learning, so I’m expecting that, if she comes out on my birthday, she’ll do the same to someone else.

Rightly or wrongly, my friends will associate her behaviour with me. I don’t want a situation where it becomes an issue in my friendships.

Have you had a direct conversation with Daisy about it?

thepariscrimefiles · 10/05/2025 13:24

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 13:04

Op for the last time. Talking to Carol about Daisy is gossiping. Laughing along and talking about Daisy to the other friend after she offered cakes is unkind.
Leaving her out of your birthday celebrations because she happens to text you in the morning is unreasonable and yes unkind.

Some of us stand by our friends, whether they are annoying/ overly people pleasing or whatever, because warts and all they are still friends of ours.

You don’t like this woman. You are embarrassed of her, you demean her by talking about her rather than
to her. If you can’t understand this now - said so clearly - I can’t help you.

It sounds like a friendship of convenience that you can only tolerate on your own terms. You have zero respect for her, and haven’t mentioned a single quality or anything you like about her. So just slow fade gently or tell her clearly.

Nowhere has OP said that she and her friends are laughing at Daisy. Her friends have spoken to her about Daisy's behaviour which is over-the-top and verging on inappropriate to people that she really doesn't know at all.

She doesn't dislike Daisy but she finds her behaviour difficult to deal with which is why she is asking for advice on here. Lots of people would just pull right back or even ghost someone like Daisy.

LittleMonks11 · 10/05/2025 13:27

What age group are you all?

67676767ttt · 10/05/2025 13:30

Feelingmuchbetter · Today 13:04

Talking to Carol about Daisy is gossiping.

Eh? What?

So you NEVER EVER talk to anyone about anyone then? You never say to a family member "oh I saw XXX the other day" for fear someone will say "YOU BLOOMING GOSSIP, YOU" or say to a workmate "xxx looks nice today" in case they report you to HR for being "a gossip"

You must live a very quiet life then

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 13:38

RachelGreep87 · 10/05/2025 13:19

A lot of people on this thread do not understand what gossip or bullying is.
Good luck OP, you have the patience of a saint.

What’s the difference between chatting and gossiping?

Undertone. Negativity. Judgement.

This is pretty basic stuff. I’m not sure how you don’t know this if you are an adult, clearly fine if you are younger and just checking.

Riaanna · 10/05/2025 13:39

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 09:24

I find your post quite breathtakingly unkind. You are not much of a friend to Daisy, whom sounds quite lonely to me.

If you don’t like her early morning messages, why not gently say I am not a morning person and can’t respond to later in the day. Maybe message me later so I am more with it. Or I am not a fan of texting so don’t take it personally.

You have instead decided to let your friends gossip and be unkind about her, calling her names like ‘overbearing’ just makes you sound like a bitch to be honest.

Daisy just sounds friendly to me, and I’m sure your friends are capable of dealing with her ‘unwanted’ texts. It’s weird why they would exchange numbers with someone they don’t like in the first place.

I am not great with people that message too much, it doesn’t bother me, I just reply when I can.
Set my own boundaries, like most people.

It seems like you are using it as a way to be unkind and spiteful about her. You know leaving her out of your birthday arrangements is very hurtful, no doubt you will do it anyway and justify it by blaming her. I really hope Daisy makes some better friends. Poor thing.

She also sounds irritating and unable to respect boundaries.

LobeliaBaggins · 10/05/2025 13:40

Ooooh someone is judging? Clutches pearls and faints.

We all judge. The sanctimony on this thread!

Dodeedoo · 10/05/2025 13:42

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 13:38

What’s the difference between chatting and gossiping?

Undertone. Negativity. Judgement.

This is pretty basic stuff. I’m not sure how you don’t know this if you are an adult, clearly fine if you are younger and just checking.

Have you ever considered the fact that you are actually judgemental?

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 13:43

Riaanna · 10/05/2025 13:39

She also sounds irritating and unable to respect boundaries.

Op is free to stop being friends with her. Gossiping and deliberately leaving her out and continuing the pretence of friendship is not okay.

It seems op is more concerned what her friends will think of her than she is about Daisy’s feelings, which seems quite superficial. I am not sure why she cant just have two celebrations if it’s that difficult?! Honestly.

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 13:44

Anyway best of luck op, and if you are on here Daisy good luck and get some friends that actually CARE about you 🙏🏼

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 10/05/2025 13:45

ItGhoul · 10/05/2025 11:40

Agreed. The #bekind people are usually among the least pleasant people on social media.

Or in life generally.

Also @MyOliveHelper not sure if I've misunderstood this but is your friend expecting total strangers to drop everything and form a welcoming committee for her child in the park? If so then that is off the charts levels of batshit.

scotstars · 10/05/2025 13:47

She sounds lonely I don't know why people are saying you are unkind most people would find this daily communication too much...

Totallytoti · 10/05/2025 13:48

You are enjoying the drama aren’t you op. Why complain about a person yet dither about whether to invite her and make the problem go on and on. What do you think she will do differently this time?

WiddlinDiddlin · 10/05/2025 13:49

Some folks seem to have a phone glued to their hands messaging everyone and their dog about fuck all, all the live long day.

And others can go a week or three without saying a word and then pick up where they left off - and some of us at the extreme end of that scale are happy knowing folks are 'about' and not directly communicating for months on end and then picking up where we left off as if it were only yesterday.

I fall into the latter category and Daisy would drive me mental!! Of course she messages utter drivel, she has nothing to talk about as theres no chance for anything to actually happen to talk about!

Don't invite her, and do tell her 'Sorry, I don't use messages to chat away with small talk, thats just not how I interact with people and most of my friends are the same, so you may go hours, days or even weeks without hearing from me. It doesn't mean I dislike someone, I just tend to wait until I have something specific to say!'

DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 13:52

Op is free to stop being friends with her. Gossiping and deliberately leaving her out and continuing the pretence of friendship is not okay.

Do you invite literally everyone you know to everything you ever organise? I’m heading out with friends this afternoon and there are loads of people I haven’t invited, either because of distance, because I know they won’t enjoy the activity, or simply because they’re part of a different friendship group. Am I “excluding” them?

Trying to find out if I’m right about why Carol hasn’t been in touch isn’t gossiping. My friend actively choosing to tell me what he thought isn’t gossiping - unless you think I’m a psychic and should have known what he was thinking before he said it and shut him down.

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DontReplyIWillLie · 10/05/2025 13:53

Totallytoti · 10/05/2025 13:48

You are enjoying the drama aren’t you op. Why complain about a person yet dither about whether to invite her and make the problem go on and on. What do you think she will do differently this time?

Oh FFS.

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Weefox · 10/05/2025 13:58

Basically, Daisy is totally unaware of adult 'boundaries'. Her constant messaging is a sign of being both needy and a tad insensitive. She is clearly socially awkward (possibly a bit on the spectrum), and desperate to make friends, but sadly going about it in the wrong way.

Tell here in a friendly way that a you're busy person and that constant texting, particularly first thing, is not something that you can deal with.

And, by no means, ask her to your birthday do. She needn't know anything about it so won't get hurt if not invited.

67676767ttt · 10/05/2025 13:58

Feelingmuchbetter · 10/05/2025 13:38

What’s the difference between chatting and gossiping?

Undertone. Negativity. Judgement.

This is pretty basic stuff. I’m not sure how you don’t know this if you are an adult, clearly fine if you are younger and just checking.

Oh the irony 😂

Ilovelisting · 10/05/2025 14:00

Always an education to see how unkind the ‘be kind’ brigade can be.

Lovingthehamsterwheel · 10/05/2025 14:01

I distance myself from these kind of people to the point they know I am a friend but I am not available.
Or, in cases where it is way too much I am suspicious as I find these kinds of people often have an unhinged personality and will cause huge dramas somewhere along the line, I find the really overbearing people tend to have issues and alterior motives.

MyOliveHelper · 10/05/2025 14:03

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 10/05/2025 13:45

Or in life generally.

Also @MyOliveHelper not sure if I've misunderstood this but is your friend expecting total strangers to drop everything and form a welcoming committee for her child in the park? If so then that is off the charts levels of batshit.

It's more that her child expects it (and sulks because she doesn't get it) and friend doesn't seem to explain to the child that her expectations are unreasonable and still wonders why her daughter struggles socially (rarely invited to play dates etc).