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Sister angry I “yanked” my nephew’s arm and told him off

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Mmemm · 10/05/2025 06:06

So I live with my parents (saving up for flat in London). My sister often visits with her child and husband.

We have a gorgeous 12 yo Golden Retriever who is enjoying his golden years sunbathing on the sofa. Anyway, I was in the living room on my phone when I saw my little toddler nephew go up to my dog on the sofa and hit him on the head with a coaster. Obviously it’s not heavy but I reacted as I am protective of my elderly dog, poor boy was dozing. I ran up to my nephew and held him by arm and said “we do not throw things at ‘Lucky’, how would you like it if I hit you in the face? That was very mean of you”. I took the coaster away from him and said if he can’t use it nicely then he can’t have it. Not a big deal. Pretty normal way to deal with it in my view. I may have been a little cross.

But sister is now demanding an apology. BIL was sat sort of to the side reading a magazine and snitched. Didn’t say anything at the time. Errr how how about you parent your child mate.

But apparently I was very overboard. I don’t think I was. I refuse to apologise on principal. Dog took it in his stride but you can’t be allowing shit
like that to happen.

In my mind sister can do one but parents have literally begged me as apparently she won’t visit whilst I am home 😂

OP posts:
TammyJones · 10/05/2025 08:58

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 08:55

Most people don't agree with the OPs actions. And I think in any situation it's good to be open minded to other people's perspectives/ ways of doing things. Nothing in life is black and white.

Uh 59 % agree with op
41 % don’t agree with- …
you Do understand how percentage works don’t you?

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2025 08:59

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 08:55

Most people don't agree with the OPs actions. And I think in any situation it's good to be open minded to other people's perspectives/ ways of doing things. Nothing in life is black and white.

Most people DO agree with the OP's actions.

Are people wilfully ignoring the voting or are they GENUINELY this obtuse?

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 08:59

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2025 08:53

"Kindly", the majority view, as evidenced by the voting, is that OP did nothing wrong.

Maybe it's YOU who needs to take on board the majority view?

You're right - I hadn't noticed the poll, so I stand corrected. But there's lots of really nice, nuanced responses here that the OP could read and maybe see her sisters perspective a bit more. I hate how polarised people become on here.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 10/05/2025 09:00

HopscotchBanana · 10/05/2025 08:57

No no, he very much hit the dog in the face with a coaster and had to be stopped from whacking the dog in the face for a second time.

So, this is kind?

nephew go up to my dog on the sofa and hit him on the head with a coaster.

we do not throw things at ‘Lucky’, how would you like it if I hit you in the face? That was very mean of you”

Did he throw coaster at the dog or hit dog in the head while holding coaster? Bit different.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 10/05/2025 09:00

Mmemm · 10/05/2025 06:23

Haha I’m the back sheep

Yes and you thoroughly revel in it, don't you? I'm all for children being spoken to firmly (and absolutely, a nearly 3 year old should already know this is wrong, for their own protection if not the dog's, and especially if they see the dog regularly) but now you've added in the fact that you were hungover, it does shed a different light on it, and I suspect you were louder, grabbier and more angry than you're letting on here. You don't like kids - why did you not take yourself off to "recover" in your room when they arrived? You could have taken the dog with you. You say that your brother in law was right there, so did you say anything to him at the time? He was wrong but so we're you. Plus you've upset your parents in their own house.

EG94 · 10/05/2025 09:00

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 08:59

You're right - I hadn't noticed the poll, so I stand corrected. But there's lots of really nice, nuanced responses here that the OP could read and maybe see her sisters perspective a bit more. I hate how polarised people become on here.

Is the sister open to seeing the OP’s perspective? If no then she can fuck off asking anyone to consider hers

Rosscameasdoody · 10/05/2025 09:00

Undecided2025 · 10/05/2025 08:52

@Rosscameasdoody whataboutery is the worst. The post isn’t about the bil, it’s about op.

Waiting until the dog retaliated is not the only other outcome.

BiL is the child's father. He was in the room. He did nothing, and when he realised he should have been the one to intervene he bad mouthed OP to her sister to take the heat off himself. Of course it’s about him. And while there was even the remotest chance of the outcome being that the child was bitten, OP was right to act as she did.

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:00

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 08:55

Most people don't agree with the OPs actions. And I think in any situation it's good to be open minded to other people's perspectives/ ways of doing things. Nothing in life is black and white.

Look at the poll.

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:02

EG94 · 10/05/2025 09:00

Is the sister open to seeing the OP’s perspective? If no then she can fuck off asking anyone to consider hers

Maybe? I don't know I don't know them. Better to assume the best of people than assume the worst?

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:03

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:00

Look at the poll.

As I said above:

You're right - I hadn't noticed the poll, so I stand corrected. But there's lots of really nice, nuanced responses here that the OP could read and maybe see her sisters perspective a bit more. I hate how polarised people become on here.

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:04

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:03

As I said above:

You're right - I hadn't noticed the poll, so I stand corrected. But there's lots of really nice, nuanced responses here that the OP could read and maybe see her sisters perspective a bit more. I hate how polarised people become on here.

The sister is calling for an apology. The OP is right not to give one.

BlackeyedSusan · 10/05/2025 09:05

Lilactimes · 10/05/2025 08:42

Your dog, old, slightly in pain and woken suddenly could have taken a snap out of your nephew’s face - that end result is hideous for everyone involved. So the situation needed stopping quickly and your anxiety at the possible end scenario can sometimes show as anger/ shouting/ pulling the kid.

Maybe you can simply tell your account of the situation like this? That you were really concerned about your DN being hurt and you reacted quickly and abruptly to stop this scenario.

”Apologise” for your parents sake - but say this is why you did it.

You need to frame it that you were protecting your nephew as he had hit your dog in the face and didn't want the dog to react. I bet bil didn't even see him hit the dog because he wasn't supervising.

Ask them what they would have done?

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:05

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:02

Maybe? I don't know I don't know them. Better to assume the best of people than assume the worst?

She's demanding an apology and saying she won't set foot in the house until she has one. Does that info that was in the first post give you any clues?

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:05

TammyJones · 10/05/2025 08:58

Uh 59 % agree with op
41 % don’t agree with- …
you Do understand how percentage works don’t you?

I hadn't seen the poll. And anyway its not exactly a clean sweep, if I was the OP I'd be interested in different perspectives. God Mumsnet is a hostile place.

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2025 09:06

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 08:59

You're right - I hadn't noticed the poll, so I stand corrected. But there's lots of really nice, nuanced responses here that the OP could read and maybe see her sisters perspective a bit more. I hate how polarised people become on here.

She's maybe struggling to see nuance amongst all the posts calling her a child abusing harpy.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/05/2025 09:06

OK show of hands please 🤣 All those voting YABU. Have you genuinely never handled your child more roughly than you intended, or spoken to them more harshly than you meant to because you were panicked that what they were doing would cause them imminent harm ?

EG94 · 10/05/2025 09:06

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:02

Maybe? I don't know I don't know them. Better to assume the best of people than assume the worst?

I like how neutral you are 😊 actually your reply made me take a step back. I guess life and experiences takes you to believe the worst due to past experience when you’ve believed the best in people. Hmm slippery slope. Not a lot of trust and kindness in the world now

SnugMintFawn · 10/05/2025 09:07

Snapncrackle · 10/05/2025 08:36

I am grown up thank you

BIL should be looking after his son
Then it wouldn’t have been a problem

I agree BIL should have stepped in, 100%, and if I was the SIL in this situation I would be annoyed at my husband.

but to react with “I’m sooooooo sorry…” etc does make you sound 12 🙃

KarmaKameelion · 10/05/2025 09:08

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:03

As I said above:

You're right - I hadn't noticed the poll, so I stand corrected. But there's lots of really nice, nuanced responses here that the OP could read and maybe see her sisters perspective a bit more. I hate how polarised people become on here.

She’s literally been called a child abuser, aggressive, free loader…. Of course you would probably focus on that.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 10/05/2025 09:09

Mothership4two · 10/05/2025 08:49

@ANiceBigCupOfTea

But the OP has also said she takes her nephew out for days out.
So actually it sounds like the sister is all too happy for free childcare but isn't happy that someone else has spoken to the child about how she speaks to the dog.

Sister sounds like one of these ones who nobody can do right for wrong with the child but will then start asking 'wheres my village' when nobody can be bothered with the drama anymore.

Sister believes her child had his arm yanked while being told off - no parent is going to be 'happy' about that

Of course, I get that
But what I'm saying is she's causing an issue for what sounds like a brilliant auntie usually who loves and cares for her nephew and provides free childcare. The child put themselves in danger and OP intervened. An auntie who didn't care wouldn't do that. The main point of course being that she didn't yank the child, the father stirred the pot with this nonsense after doing nothing to intervene. So I think the sister has much more of a DH problem than she has a Dsis problem.

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:09

AthWat · 10/05/2025 09:05

She's demanding an apology and saying she won't set foot in the house until she has one. Does that info that was in the first post give you any clues?

Edited

If I were the OP I'd want to instigate a calm conversation with my sister in which I expressed my perspective and would try to understand hers so that a compromise can be reached. They sound like lovely close sisters that are just caught up in the moment.

Smallsalt · 10/05/2025 09:10

Unrelated38 · 10/05/2025 06:12

How old is he? I'm guessing very young.

Sounds pretty over the top and you said yourself you were angry. I wouldn't like someone talking angrily to my children.

And I wouldn't like somebody hitting my dog in the face.

ToysRus56 · 10/05/2025 09:10

KarmaKameelion · 10/05/2025 09:08

She’s literally been called a child abuser, aggressive, free loader…. Of course you would probably focus on that.

No, all of that is ridiculous and just Mumsnet at its worst.

Snapncrackle · 10/05/2025 09:11

SnugMintFawn · 10/05/2025 09:07

I agree BIL should have stepped in, 100%, and if I was the SIL in this situation I would be annoyed at my husband.

but to react with “I’m sooooooo sorry…” etc does make you sound 12 🙃

I’m young at heart

Lilactimes · 10/05/2025 09:11

Worriedsickmostofthetime · 10/05/2025 08:48

Good golly. There are some righteous parents on here…

I completely understand that the M in MN stands for mum and this is a parenting board but if there was ever a thread which highlighted how too far ‘gentle parenting’ has gone it’s this one.

The child will be absolutely fine with no long lasting childhood trauma that will need therapy in his twenties as a result of being told off my his aunt. This will leave no imprint on him at all. If the sister carries on this way the only change will be one less child carer in her family because I certainly would not be putting my hand up to babysit my nephew in future.

I totally agree @Worriedsickmostofthetime and most importantly OP prevented a potential - nasty even if unlikely scenario - of a dog bite.

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