Beckhams

[Thomasina79]

Am I unreasonable to feel sorry for Victoria and David beckham over the so called ‘rift’ with their son, which Victoria says is her worst nightmare. I know from experience how this situation can get out of hand and how heartbreaking it is when a beloved child breaks contact with their parents .

naturally the media is blaming the woman!

Yet here you are on this thread lecturing. Interesting. Personally if I have no interest in a topic I just scroll on by.

I don’t think that’s fair on her designs, some of her dresses & suits are fab. Whilst didn’t learn craft I think she’s disciplined & hardworking.

I think there’s truth in texts & the fired wedding planners etc. My parents had little to do with wedding planning, possibly with great wealth comes expectations of great control & that’s part of the problem (?)

I feel a bit sorry for the kids because they have a father who was a very good footballer and also very good-looking, who seems to be good socially. Their mother is normal; not talented at anything except maintaining her figure and beauty regimes.
As is often the way, the football and looks genes haven't been passed on, but the Beckhams have made so much money that it feels inconceivable that their children could just get bog standard jobs like many Brits eg. Warehouse worker, driver, shop worker, office admin staff.
If the Beckham kids hadn't been spoilt and plastered all over the media since birth, Brooklyn could have a nice 8-4 working for the council. He'd have friends, be more-or-less content most of the time and everyone would think it's ace that his parents are the Beckhams.
Admittedly he would inherit a huge amount of money aged 60-odd, but by then he would know the value of money.

Maybe Brooklyn has finally found freedom. I think the Beckhams love their children but smother them. The way Victoria used to drape herself over Brooklyn was not normal.

If only you had a time machine you could go back and advise Jane Austen not to write that silly book because nobody will ever be interested in it.

Hasn't one of Jamie Oliver's daughters started a nursing course? So it is possible. Not quite the same level of fame but still...

I don’t believe any of what I read but I still have my own thoughts about it. For all we know there may be no estrangement whatsoever. Who knows.

I think when lots of money & unusually strong work ethic combine some are then hugely socially ambitious re: children. I thought it odd that Elton John /David F were chosen as a Godparents, my friends would have laughed, how can they have known them well enough?

Victoria has done very well with her fashion business & it has evolved well. I’d not have had the confidence without the industry grounding.

Except apparently she's not his ex but his mate Rocco Richie's

So who knows?

As they appear to often holiday together that does suggest a reasonably close friendhip?

It’s sad but I’ve seen this happen twice and both times it was to do with overbearing, ‘close’, controlling families.

You know the type - we’re so close we do everything together.

This dynamic can work with certain in laws who want to be subsumed by this ‘happy’ family but those that pull against it often fall out with the family.

Usually Godparents know the parents very well I might be missing something but were they super close back in 1997-99 with a well established relationship? The friendship evolved possibly in part because Elton & David had been honoured with the role? More admirable to pick close friends & relatives?

It’s socially ambitious but understandable perhaps to pick the wealthiest most influential you know re: Godparents (?) Many do it now albeit on a different scale…

It’s a bit akin to Meghan & H having A listers & celebs to the wedding they’d never met NB: Clooneys re: future & hopeful networking.

Yeah its pretty terrible not to turn up to ANY of them.
It's not even like he can pretend he has work.

Whatever anyone wants to say about savid and Victoria (mostly David's 🧐) behaviour.
They clearly love their kids and have been pretty devoted parents.

Exactly. The fact that poster gets their kicks from going into a thread they have no interest in and telling the people on it that they are of superior intelligence to the rest of us just makes them look a dick to be honest.

It doesn't even have to be an either/or vs famous footballer or working behind the check out at aldi.

There are plenty of jobs that are still glamorous and well paying where its massively helpful to have rich/famous parents give you a leg up but where you don't need massive/innate talent. But it does involve putting a bit of work in !

E.g. Brooklyns "photography" career -if he'd actually finished the degree at the prestigious uni hisparents paid for him to get into and then apprenticed to a photographer for a few years to learn the craft he still would have benefited from a massive advantage but fewer people would have begrudged him eventually building a successful career. But dropping out of a uni other people would have loved to get the chance to attend and publishing a book of shit outlines of an elephant's shadow was never going to lead to credibility. And then instead of taking it on the chin, learning from it and getting better he chucked in that "passion" and decided he was going to be a chef - but did exactly the same again. No culinary school or hard sweat working your way up in restaurants, just straight into videos on insta showing people how to make a sandwich 🤣
No wonder people laugh at him

You'd think with all the media savvy the beckhams have they'd know how this would come across.

Same with romeo - he was fairly good at football and could probably have carved out a career in low league teams or coaching or something. But because he wasn't good enough to be AS famous as his dad he's chucked that in and started "modelling". Which again will probably go nowhere because he's OK looking but nothing special and in a field that competitive just being a nepo baby isn't enough.

Basically they could get good jobs in pretty much any field they wanted much easier than 99.99% of other people- but it seems like unless they can instantly be a list stars, its not worth it.

latetothefisting
absolutely agree with what you’ve said.

I have no sympathy for Brooklyn. He may have grown up in the public eye but not so much when he was young, more since he’s been able to say ‘no I don’t want that’. He’s taken every luxury offered to him, when he could’ve said no… I want something different.
Any decent parent would be heartbroken to have a rift with their child; to have it played out in public even worse.

There's an episode of The Rest is Entertainment about this. It's an interesting listen. They make some good points about the family being a commodity.

I don't think that's fair on Victoria. I think she's a grafter & that's a skill in itself.

@latetothefisting completely agree. Look at Tilly Ramsay. Obviously having a famous chef dad got her a show on cbbc and a turn on strictly. But she went to university and now I think catering college to do it properly.

They don’t have to get ‘bog standard’ jobs, though. They have the immense luxury of being able to afford the best education money can buy, to study absolutely anything, anywhere in the world, and to choose, if they wanted, ill-paid or insecure but enormously interesting and difficult to get into jobs where you need to be able to support yourself though multiple unpaid internships or similar to get your foot in the door, or live from project to project. If a Beckham child wanted to study art at the Courtauld and Florence and then train as a paper restaurator or open a Mayfair gallery or specialise in jewels for Sothebys, they could, or buy an estate and rewild it and open a centre for habitat conservation, or run it as an animal sanctuary, or direct operas.

100 per cent, both parents are. I don’t think they’ve (comparatively) necessarily overindulged the kids, instilled good values etc, so is it curious the children don’t seemingly have more of a work ethic? Perhaps Harper will/does?

True ,and Stella McCartney,whilst it helped having super famous parents and top.models modelling her designs whilst she was at college at least she did actually go to college and train
Also with the likes of Frank lampard and Jamie Redknapp,they are lucky that they had father's who themselves had been footballers and knew how to.get their kids spotted ,they would never have got as far as they without talent

I think there’s a power imbalance with Peltz empire & Beckhams which might have seeded any ‘rift’ & be at the heart of things. Who holds the purse strings & finances Nicola’s life & Brooklyn’s? Presumably they then have some soft control (?)

Nicola’s mother keeps a very low profile with no social media, the Beckhams not so much. Although both self made there seems to be a bit of a gulf between the families. The Beckhams are used to being the wealthiest & most powerful in any of their children’s significant relationships. This represents quite a shift.

I think Nicola may have felt a bit of an outlier amongst her siblings, one s sports star with much family backing - don’t they have an ice hockey rink? Nicola’s film career stalled. Brooklyn cruelly known as ‘Dorklyn’ etc, possibly there’s a solidarity? Fosters an ‘us against the world’ mentality. Can be a positive but also too much reflection lead to bitterness NB: H & M.